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Say that you were dumped back into the 1960's...

StreckStreck Registered User regular
...bringing along no fancy modern technology, just your knowledge.

How well would you cope with learning to use or program the computers of the day, assuming you had access?

Would you even want to?

Would you know enough about how computers really work to be able to help advance the field?

In the mainframe world, IBM rules as king, though there is a smattering of much smaller competitors such as Burroughs, Control Data, Honeywell, and UNIVAC.

A new class of computer, though, has arisen - the minicomputer, from a very young DEC.

Operating these computers requires an understanding of computer science:

http://www.cca.org/photo/rcsri/pdp-8.jpg

Microcomputers, microprocessors, do not exist.

For programming languages you have ALGOL, APL, COBOL, FORTRAN, LISP, and of course assembly. BASIC and Pascal do not exist.

The first ARPANET nodes aren't deployed until 1969.

Would you help? Would you run?

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  • FofamitFofamit Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I would help and do the best I can despite my average knowledge of computer programming and a lack of a background in such things.

    Also, I would track down Bill Gates and become his best friend.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Lougle

    edit: also, I'd promise Gates to work for him for free until we got bought at which point we'd be partners and I'd accept 2% of the profits with a non-termination clause, and give him the right to claim any ideas I contributed as his own, and that I'd work behind the scenes. I'd have this made as a legal document and have him sign it in front of a hundred witnesses.

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  • archonwarparchonwarp Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I feel like dropping any modern internet-savvy person into the early ages of computing or personal computing could have a tremendous effect on the way things turn out, assuming you want to go all hypothetical and time-changing with this. If I could work in a computer that gave me influence or potential of influence, I'd work on getting the PC age going as quickly as possible. I'd work with DARPA and try as early as possible to get the internet up and running as my number one goal. Since we're assuming I've brought my knowledge with me, I will try to use any influence I can towards getting computers as accessible as possible for regular folks. Knowing that ultimately PCs and small electronics WILL end up in the hands of most people around the country and world, the best time to establish standards is now. I'd work my hardest to keep net neutrality from ever becoming a politicized issue, most likely by using governmental funding for as much of the infrastructure as possible and establishing clear limits on what control private enterprise can have over the lines.

    I'm thinking more present-day with this, but here is the biggest thing I'd like to change:

    UIs would be different with functionality and common sense as the forefront. As it currently stands, people who haven't grown up with computers have a difficult time wrapping their heads around the nesting menus and separated pathways necessary for some of the most basic computing tasks. Wrapping menus and options together in a logical way would be one of the first things that I would do to get the personal computer age going as quickly as possible. Of course this means that we have to basically invent the GUI and have machines powerful enough to handle this, but I think it could be done. Even using a basic smartphone today, I notice how the thing I want to find isn't always where I'd expect it. I feel there should be more than one way to access most things people want on a device, and hopping platforms shouldn't be something that causes gnashing of teeth.

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  • Rigor MortisRigor Mortis Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd spend a few years learning Japanese then try to get in on the ground floor with Nintendo. Maybe hang with Shiggy a bit then head up their North American arm. I would localize the real Mario 2.

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  • AyulinAyulin Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    While it's 10 or so years after the time frame being discussed here, I saw this a while ago. Today's technology as taken to via time-travel, then redesigned in 1977.

    As for what I'd do in the 60s... Eh. I can't imagine myself being able to contribute in any meaningful way. I could get behind pushing for simpler and easier to use UIs, but as for actually getting to that stage itself...

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd tell Brezhnev to stay the hell out of Afghanistan. He probably wouldn't believe me, but he might be convinced if I mentioned the Americans were going to do it too, and also told him who won the next ~40 Stanley Cups.

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  • DietarySupplementDietarySupplement Still not approved by the FDA Dublin, OHRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Hm I saw the thread title and thought you were asking if I got dumped back in the 1960's by a girl or something. If so I was going to be all over this thread.

    I'd say I'd get in line to work at Bell Labs. The stuff they did back then (and well into the 80's) was pretty slick.

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  • ToyDToyD Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I would work on these fantastic machines that sit in the sky and don't fall down called Satellites. They allow ubiquitous communication on half the globe at once (ymmv on the periphery) and you can rent a node for your communications for a low, low price.* We manage the hardware and launch, you merely set up the transmit station.

    *price may not be low, low

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  • DietarySupplementDietarySupplement Still not approved by the FDA Dublin, OHRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Oh, for that matter: get in on the lucrative Cell tower licensing. I'm probably going to get it wrong, but: apparently back in the day you could lease spectrum ranges from the FCC. These spectrum ranges eventually got picked to host cellular traffic, so big carriers had to either outright buy or license the rights to them from the owners.

    Case in point: the founder of Sirius Satellite radio got rich doing this. He is a girl now.

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  • grouch993grouch993 Both a man and a numberRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I would have bought up and registered all the machine guns and sears. Then when 1968 and 1986 rolled around they could be sold for large amounts of money.

    Do we know we are getting dropped there or is it Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court time?

    Would pack along the Way Things Work books.

    You could run out and patent all sorts of things before others did. :)

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  • Dark ShroudDark Shroud Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I would go work for Bill Gates and invest all my money in various companies than then Gold. Remember there was a big crash in the 80s as well. They happen every 10 years.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I would catch a plane to London and would shag till i'm dead.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Alternate between buying Microsoft and IBM stock for a while until I drop the millions I had accumulated into Google during the IPO.

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  • Roland_tHTGRoland_tHTG Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd absolutely be a hippy that buys stocks with the money that wasn't spent doing hippy things.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    I don't know enough about computers to help with their development, so I'd just go the investment route. Drop as much as possible into IBM, Microsoft and Apple, Nintendo, and eventually Google.

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  • Roland_tHTGRoland_tHTG Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd spend a few years learning Japanese then try to get in on the ground floor with Nintendo. Maybe hang with Shiggy a bit then head up their North American arm. I would localize the real Mario 2.

    You would be about 70 years late for getting in on the ground floor at Nintendo.

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  • AtheraalAtheraal Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Well, after cursing myself for not being into sports stats and thus ensuring some basic starting funds, I'd probably devote myself to an instrument in preparation for Woodstock. Maybe 'invent' a few new musical genres along the way. It'd be neat to go meet some of the pioneers of electronic music.

    Later on, I'd use my fame and money to accelerate the adoption of computers by the general populace. Then create social networking with an eye toward making it into the new democratic voting system. Once I'm supreme world dictator, I'd probably look up my parents and see exactly how much paradox the timestream can take.

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  • RynaRyna Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I guess I'd try not to have sex with my mother ala Back to the Future

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  • Rigor MortisRigor Mortis Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd spend a few years learning Japanese then try to get in on the ground floor with Nintendo. Maybe hang with Shiggy a bit then head up their North American arm. I would localize the real Mario 2.

    You would be about 70 years late for getting in on the ground floor at Nintendo.
    Well, more specifically, I was thinking I'd be the one to walk by in '66 who said "Hey, so, you heard about these newfangled eletronic games? Way more profitable than playing cards."

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  • mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I don't know about the 60's, but I wonder how the BBS scene of the 80's would have evolved with some additions:
    1. public-key cryptography
    2. inexpensive telephone adapters that suppress the first ring of every incoming call (so ring-back would be more practical)
    Public-key crypto enables trusted communications through untrusted channels, and making ring-back more practical makes it much easier for everyone and their dog to turn their modem-equipped PC into a system that can answer incoming calls and share data. Makes it easier to disconnect content from the board it arrives on, and makes it easier to imagine a network where the system you dial into is just a bandwidth provider.

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  • WeretacoWeretaco Cubicle Gangster Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    60-70% of my job is working with a database first designed and written in 1967. I think I'd be fine :)

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  • November FifthNovember Fifth Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I think knowledge of future technology would be somewhat tempered by an inability to advance material sciences. Unless you had detailed information about microprocessor and battery design, it would be difficult to actually speed up the pace of computer development.

    I think your best bet for jump starting the industry would be inserting yourself into the Xerox PARC project and giving them Lotus 1-2-3 and Peachtree Accounting equivalents. They already had everything else by 1973. Convince them to put a PC on the market, then reinvest profits from that into an early internet.

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  • Dark ShroudDark Shroud Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I think helping with forward thinking for standards would probably be the most helpful.

    IPv6 is the big one I can think of in addition to HTML & CSS design.

    Security concerns when it comes to logging into accounts is yet another. Not to mention getting standards for cell communication.

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  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd make a bunch of patents and then sue everyone but only after they've made billions from the idea like a true arsehole.

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  • FalkenFalken Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Alright so:

    I find jack tramiel, and become his buisness partner.

    Round about the time of the Commodore PET, I say to him "hey, wouldn't it be a really good idea to go to lots of electronics companies and see if they'd like to licence the design?".

    Then the PET would be in a similar position to the PC as regards to clones, only far earlier. A full range of models, from a basic one that's just a keyboard computer, to high end dual floppy models with intergrated monitors. As the range evolves into having vic-20 and c64 capabilities, the future dominant computer platform is assured.

    Round about 1983, purchase Amiga International. Get the amiga 500 and 2000 models out by 1984 and include commodore 8-bit emulator cards. slowly transition the clone market over. Set MOS tech to cloning and improving the 68000 cpu. Get a new chipset in the high end models every two years, which trickle down into the cheap ones.

    (so, the IBM PC, atari ST and macintosh are stillborn. Lets leave Acorn alone for now)

    Round about 2010, post this thread from my sweet ass new amiga, then look out the window across the acres of land that is my estate. I pick up the phone and tell a servant to get a bentley ready. "Which bentley sir?" The blue one. "which blue one sir?"

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd go all fucking out to get piezo crystals up and running, and lead a project to build the Scanning Tunneling Microscope 20-years ahead of schedule, which would enable huge advances in microelectronics, data storage and nanotechnology (look that up: it's been instrumental in allowing exploration of the fundamental properties of matter which underpin the modern semiconductor, even if we build with optical lithography).

    I'd probably get in on the ground floor with the materials science people and point them in the right direction regarding semiconductor electronics and the future, even with my comparatively limited knowledge. I'd track down anyone working on quantum spins and tell them all about Racetrack memory (look it up: that's the god damn future of storage today and it's fucking awesome) and ask about spin polarization, and get them hooked up with hard disk manufacturers.

    I'd aggressively acquire anyone who was working on search technology or networking, and probably sell the idea of a public internet to the government on the basis of being truly peer-to-peer and providing total redundancy against nuclear attack (while in reality jumpstarting the driver of business for the future 40 years earlier then it was). And yeah: I'd find the guys who work on number-theory and give them the idea about public-key cryptography to underpin all this. In my future, eCommerce never goes through an "insecure" period and becomes standard quickly.

    I'd also make it standard policy to assume to all dates will be used at least 1000 years into the future and avoid Y2K being considered a problem.

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