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How the hell can I start reading X-Men?

RavagerRavager Registered User regular
edited May 2007 in Graphic Violence
Ok, I used to be a huge X-Men fan many years ago but stopped a long time ago. Is there any good way to get up to speed with the series and start reading the new issues that come out? With all the different crossovers and versions of X-Men, its really confusing. I know of Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, New X-Men, and X-Men Unlimited. I think there are others related to the X-Men that have different names. Is there any way to get up to speed on the universe by reading trades? If so, which ones are the most necessary? How far should I go back? Also, once I am up to speed, which books in the X-Men story line are the ones I need to read? I know the storylines in the various books overlap and you need to read all to get the full story. How do you know which ones to read? Which one is the main one?

BTW, I read Civil War and thought it was pretty terrible. Is the current run of X-Men better than this?

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Begin Astonishing now, and read everything since 1.

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    deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Buy this

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    HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I think getting up to speed ought to be less of a priority than reading the best stories you missed. I mean, at the end of the day, isn't the point to read good stories?

    Anyway, on top of Astonishing, you ought to check out Grant Morrison's New X-Men (not to be confused with New X-Men with young mutants). Don't read any spoilers on it, though.

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    RavagerRavager Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I think getting up to speed ought to be less of a priority than reading the best stories you missed. I mean, at the end of the day, isn't the point to read good stories?

    This is true. Aside from Astonishing and New X-Men, which ones are good? Ive heard House of M is good (someone told me it is directly leading into a new story arc too). Ill probably pick up the Age of Apocalypse eventually too. Anything else?

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    X-Men: Rogue led group, has an interesting line up, not bad art, very odd stories.
    Uncanny X-Men: Don't bother till the current arc is over. It's a 12 parter and it's on 11 or so.
    New X-Men: Try and get the trades after House of M... I personally love New X-Men... it has the younger generation and X-23 (who grows on you)
    X-Factor: BUY THIS NOW
    Astonishing: BUY THIS NOW

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    HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    If you like X-23, pick up the X-23 minis.

    If you like modern X-Factor, pick up Madrox: Multiple Choice.

    House of M is alright, but it's really more of a Marvel Universe story than anything else.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sentry summed up the current books pretty succintly.

    But yes you should read all of Astonishing, from issue 1 to present.

    If you like Shi'ar stuff then I would pick up the X-Men Deadly Genesis trade and the subsequent Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire trade (the storyline finishing up in Uncanny right now)

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    HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Oh yeah, X-Statix! If you missed it, read X-Statix.

    The first volumes are actually under the name X-Force, just so you know.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Also I noticed people are talking about two differnt "New X-Men" books, which might be confusing to someonewho has been out of the loop.

    The current book called New X-Men is pretty much the current "New Mutants" style book, but a few years ago, the currently adjectivless "X-Men" title, was called New X-Men and was written by Grant Morrisson. Some people say it's one of the greatest X-runs ever, some people hate it. I think it had promise but ultimatley Morrisson just threw way too many ideas out there at once just to see what would stick rather than telling a focused story. There are some really good bits, but it's certainly not the perfect X-Men some would have you believe.

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    JCMJCM Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sentry wrote: »
    X-Men: Rogue led group, has an interesting line up, not bad art, very odd stories.
    Uncanny X-Men: Don't bother till the current arc is over. It's a 12 parter and it's on 11 or so.
    New X-Men: Try and get the trades after House of M... I personally love New X-Men... it has the younger generation and X-23 (who grows on you)
    X-Factor: BUY THIS NOW
    Astonishing: BUY THIS NOW


    done.

    Amen

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    RavagerRavager Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So is Astonishing X-Men the "main" X-Men storyline? Please pardon my ignorance, Im basically a comic n00b.

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Buy X-Factor


    I could take or leave the rest.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Traditionally Uncanny has always been the "main" X-book as much as there is one, but thats not really how it works. The differnt X-books focus on differnt characters.

    The current line-up in Astonishing X-Men is: Cyclops, Emma Frost, Kitty Pryde, Colossus, Beast, and Wolverine

    The current line-up in Uncanny is: Xavier, Havok, Polaris, Nightcrawler, Rachael Summers, Darwin, and Warpath

    The current line-up in X-Men is: Rogue, Cable, Iceman, Mystique, Lady Mastermind, Cannonball, and Omega Sentinal

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
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    Ravager wrote: »
    So is Astonishing X-Men the "main" X-Men storyline? Please pardon my ignorance, Im basically a comic n00b.



    Each book has its own team, with its own storylines. Back in the 90s all the damn X-teamns used to trip over each other on a daily basis so you had to buy a ton of books. Right now only Astonishing and New X-Men do that because they're both based out of the X Mansion.


    Hopefully (adjectiveless) X-Men stay either in their flying boat or in Providence and the hell away from the Mansion as they've got a few of my favorite characters (Okay, pretty much just Iceman and Rogue... the others are growing on me though).

    Astonishing X-Men IS very good, but I don't enjoy that team as much and especially dislike having them be in 6 places at once due to their being the "Home Team".

    Uncanny X-Men has been in space dealing with the Shi'ar for a year, and seeing as how I hate the goddamned Shi'ar I have no idea what's going on in that book.

    And X-Factor is by far the best X book to come along in a while and for the most part it doesn't have any crossover crap. You may want to peruse the House of M trade though because X-Factor seems to be destined to deal with the fallout from that.

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    RavagerRavager Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Cool, so I think im gonna read the House of M so I can be up to date with what happened there. From there Ill move on to X-Factor and Astonishing X-Men trades untill im caught up. After that I guess ill read singles or read trades from the other X-Men series. Does this sound right?

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    Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ravager wrote: »
    So is Astonishing X-Men the "main" X-Men storyline? Please pardon my ignorance, Im basically a comic n00b.

    Astonishing X-Men is kind of like a continuation to Grant Morrison's New X-Men. Which was a bunch of issues of "X-Men" without the adjective. They added the New so people would buy it. Now they renamed New Mutants to New X-Men: Academy X then dropped the end bit, just to confuse people.

    Look for the New X-Men Omnibus. Normally, it'd be cheaper on Amazon, but it seems like it's no longer in print, and the cheapest one is $112. That's not to say it isn't worth that price. You get a lot of book for that money, and it's only 12 bucks over retail. Still check local shops.

    It's the best X-Men in decades.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The first 2 Astonishing X-Men arcs take place pre-House of M.

    X-Factor does spin out of HoM though.

    As does Deadly Genesis which in turns leads into Ed Brubaker's current run on Uncanny.

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    RavagerRavager Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ok so read the first 2 Astonishing trades, then House of M, then the rest of Astonishing and X-Factor?

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    VirralVirral Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm planning on collecting the x-books from HoM onwards, they will be my next big purchase. I already grabbed Astonishing and it was freaking awesome.

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    JCMJCM Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ravager wrote: »
    Ok so read the first 2 Astonishing trades, then House of M, then the rest of Astonishing and X-Factor?

    Yep.

    Also helps that Astonishing have more members of the "classic" Xmen, theres not many characters that you have to hunt issues for their origins and all. Joss Whedon´s writing it, and the artist from Planetary´s drawing it, its worth the money.

    If you want to add the Maddrox mini series which lead into XFactor, its a good read, but not essential in anything except setting him up as a detective.

    And I can just say this, Maddrox could be the most powerful mutant under Peter David´s pen.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I would also reccomend the X-Men: Deadly Genesis mini series following House of M which then leads into the current mega-arc of Uncanny X-Men "Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire" It's a complete blast, Brubaker writing and the art is great.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm a bit underwhelmed with Uncanny at the moment.

    Moves a bit too slow for me personally.

    X-men at the moment is weird and out there with Kick arse art a neat team and is my second favourite Xbook.

    As everyone is saying, Astonishing wins.

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    HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I think you would actually be better off starting with the first trade of Morrison's New X-Men, since Astonishing actually references it pretty often.

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    Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I saw this thread. I read all of Astonishing X-men that is out today. I never read comics really. Thank you thread.

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I would strongly recommend Astonishing, great book. You can also pick up some other trades, especially the 'Essential' ones, for some history.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Htown wrote: »
    I think you would actually be better off starting with the first trade of Morrison's New X-Men, since Astonishing actually references it pretty often.


    I cannot stress enough how amazing that run was.

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    VirralVirral Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Htown wrote: »
    I think you would actually be better off starting with the first trade of Morrison's New X-Men, since Astonishing actually references it pretty often.


    I cannot stress enough how amazing that run was.

    Well... I will as soon as Amazon fills that order I made THREE MONTHS AGO!

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    Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Go for TPB's. I've found that's always the best way to get up to speed with any comic book series.

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    emutheelfemutheelf Dr. Wankenstein Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I just started reading Astonishing and X-Factor (both brilliant) and want to catch up as well. About House of M, which trades are necessary reading? Is the main House of M trade enough or do I really need to get them all?

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    Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    emutheelf wrote: »
    I just started reading Astonishing and X-Factor (both brilliant) and want to catch up as well. About House of M, which trades are necessary reading? Is the main House of M trade enough or do I really need to get them all?

    New X-Men: E is for Extinction
    New X-Men: Imperial
    New X-Men: New Worlds
    New X-Men: Riot at Xavier's
    New X-Men: Assault on Weapon Plus
    New X-Men: Planet X
    New X-Men: Here Comes Tomorrow

    I listed the last one for completion's sake, but you can honestly just skip it. Not Morrison's best, and Silvestri is a relic of the 90s, and therefore an acquired taste.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Man, Here Comes Tomorrow was the best part of Morrisson's run.

    Although I am not in love with it to the degree most people here are.


    As for House of M, yes just read the main series. The tie ins were awful except for that one captain america issue.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    yeah, here comes tomorrow is terrific stuff

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Man, Here Comes Tomorrow was the best part of Morrisson's run.

    Although I am not in love with it to the degree most people here are.


    As for House of M, yes just read the main series. The tie ins were awful except for that one captain america issue.


    Man what?

    The Hulk tie-in was awesome.

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    grim123grim123 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    what chow could you not like house of M spidey?

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    the House of M spidey started off good then devolved into nonsense. I liked the set up but the payoff wasn't worth it.

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Agreed.
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    grim123grim123 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    grim123 wrote: »
    what chow could you not like house of M spidey?
    what the hell was I smoking?!?O_o

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    grim123 wrote: »
    grim123 wrote: »
    what chow could you not like house of M spidey?
    what the hell was I smoking?!?O_o

    You meant

    What? How could you not like House of M Spidey?

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The only problem I see with going to Morrison's run, which was awesome, no question, is that, after Planet X, you go directly into New Excaliber, along with X-Men, which leads directly into Xorneto which is just a huge clusterfuck of nonsense.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    after planet x you just go right into here comes tomorrow and then don't bother with the stuff that comes right after

    at least, i never did

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