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Xbox Live Gold increasing from $50/year to $60/year in the us
deadonthestreet
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Because megathreads are still awful.
http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/08/30/price-change-for-xbox-live-gold-subscription.aspx
No new features announced. Is this because publishers are demanding a cut of Live money? Is it a response to Sony's new service? Is it to cover the cost of ESPN even though they said ESPN would be free? Or is MS just getting greedy? Either way shit move by MS.
http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/08/30/price-change-for-xbox-live-gold-subscription.aspx
I wanted to let you know that as of November 1, 2010 we are increasing the price of an Xbox LIVE for some members. This price increase only affects Xbox LIVE Members in Canada, Mexico, United Kingdom or the United States.
No new features announced. Is this because publishers are demanding a cut of Live money? Is it a response to Sony's new service? Is it to cover the cost of ESPN even though they said ESPN would be free? Or is MS just getting greedy? Either way shit move by MS.
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But yeah, it sucks if no new features follows this change.
That's what I do.
I'd be more annoyed if it weren't for that, and the fact that the price of a basic cable/ISP package (where I live) has doubled in the same time.
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You're missing the point - this is a terrible move, as it makes the PS3 that much more attractive.
I really doubt ten dollars a year more matters that much to your average person.
Not sure where I gave an opinion or referred to anything regarding the PS3 in my post, but ok. I guess I missed the point somehow.
An additional 10 bucks per year is nothing compared to pretty much anything else that is raising in price.
People would still gladly pay.
Games? Online? With Friends? Also have other devices that do that just fine without having to pay for things I don't need first.
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I don't think there are any good, exclusive upcoming games for the 360 right now anyway, right?
I'm sure that an estimation of the actual loss can be broken down mathematically (as can the profit change), but I have to say--by this time, I don't think there are that many people on the fence. Not as much as there were when the consoles were new. The status quo has been going on for years now. You've had a lot of time to make up your mind (and many people did).
Using myself as an example (anecdotal ahoy)--PSN, and the fact that it's free, doesn't offer nearly enough for me to stop buying Xbox multiplayer exclusives, buy multiplatform games, a headset, and drop Xbox Live entirely. Not even close.
I really want to say that if you were unhappy at the cost, you'd have "Switched camps" already. An extra $2 a month (or less if you buy a card), will say some people, but we're not talking armies. I think they would have already switched already, honestly.
But the news is making me take a look at what I use LIVE for. I really only play Street Fighter online currently. One game. Is it worth it to me to pay $60 a year to play only a couple of games online (assuming I play other games online from time to time)? I have a PS3, what console will I be picking up my future purchases on?
I'd say Halo Reach and Gears 3 are pretty big exclusives. Considering Halo 3 is still one of the most played live games.
However, when the next round of consoles comes out it will make me wonder, "Will Microsoft raise the price again after I've committed to their console?"
True, personally I've never cared much for either franchise unfortunately.
It, of course, depends on a person's interest. There aren't any incoming good, multiplayer PS3 exclusives that interest me personally at the moment. Definitely different from there not being any good multiplayer exclusives period.
Coincidentally, I have probably about (no exaggeration) 15 times as many Xbox Live friends as PSN friends. That's a consequence of that trend over time, which is self-reinforcing (I want to keep those friends because I enjoy playing with them).
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Also... my auto-renew hits on October 31st... how convenient is THAT?
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Considering that I spend some two hundred dollars a month on my collective telecommunications assets (feel free to cringe because that's what I do), I really can't be bothered to check if ten dollars more a year for Live even registers as a blip on my Concern-o-Meter.
And I still find it amazing that people can still consider charging for Xbox Live a greedy maneuver. Servers cost money, people to run servers cost money, bandwidth costs money, maintainance costs money, and so on and so forth. Again, PC servers STILL COST MONEY. It just so happens that some other private party than yourself is generous enough to not only foot the bill but also allow you to play on the server they pay for. Sony's service costs money too, but they're still trying to recover from their horrible early attempts at selling the PS3 and thus won't dare to charge for the service yet. They'll just eat the costs until they can charge and then they'll charge too.
Honestly, if they're gonna' change pricing and shit, I wanna' see them introduce a per-hour rate option or something like that: I got a big fuck-off 12-month card for about 35 bucks a few months back for Crackdown, but after tooling around with it for a bit I ain't touched the 360 for a solid month and honestly don't see me picking it up again for Live anytime soon, and it irks me to hell and back that I've got all this time available that I ain't gonna' use.
Doubly so for PSN, which is newer, after all. I don't think Sony will charge for PSN--they'll just avoid expensive things (like standardization of support and functions and voicechat, etc.) as they have. If they wanted to attach a fee, I think they'd have to drop it entirely and replace it with something else ("Sony Online" or something).
Just speculating, of course.
Remind me, has the dollar retained the same value as it had last century?
In the end we will pay it and we will forget it ever used to cost $50, just like with console games.
It's called Telecom Price Gouging.
Look, people still whine about the fact that PS3/360 games cost 60 bucks regardless of inflation or the fact that console games fifteen years ago could cost far more than that.
Logic simply does not enter into the equation here, only bitching about why we have to pay market-determined reasonable prices for anything game-related.
I'm fine with chalking it up to inflation.
Since we don't know if the cost to maintain XBL over the years has been going up or down, there's no way to tell if the increase is warranted or if we're getting screwed.
Look at the price of video games. Been pretty stable since the 8-bit days. Lots of reasons for that. It's not as simple as inflation goes up -> price goes up.
/never mind me, I suck at economics.
Here's something I'm wondering: I haven't touched Madden in, oh, about 5 years now, but: with the latest iteration, do you need a Gold account to play online? I thought I heard someone say that matchmaking and so-on is done through EA, and not Microsoft? If that's the case, aren't publishers like that the ones that ultimately suffer more than the subscribers? I mean, for the Live segment, anyhow, PSN/PC gaming crowd?
And if so, do you think this will dent CODBLOPS sales at all? Or is that too much of a juggernaut?
I'm in the same boat. As someone who doesn't play live too often, but vastly prefers the live experience over the PSN Network, I doubt I'll cancel or anything. More likely, I'll just take advantage of online card sales and the like.