Pony, safespaces are sort of necessary. For example, gay people need a place where they don't have to be afraid they'll be called fag if they look at some same-sex person. And women need somewhere to discuss womanly things, especially with respect to culture at large.
Though safespaces are, admittedly, a tricky thing, and it does take some discipline to make sure that the safe space doesn't allow noxious ideas to take hold.
The problem is that "SAFE SPACE" gets used as a rebuke to any sort of challenge to a notion a person may have put forth and is largely done as a way to exclude people that aren't the same as the speaker.
For example, a while back a friend of mine linked me to a blog post of a woman who was a sexual assault victim, years later trying to date again.
She was on a date with a guy she met online, and while crossing the street she stepped out into traffic and there was an oncoming car. So the guy she was with grabbed her from behind and pulled her out of traffic.
This "triggered" her, being suddenly and forcefully grabbed and pulled from behind by a man, and she proceeded to have a "trigger event" (which is the feminist codeword for "post-traumatic stress episode" since a lot of them don't like to acknowledge PTSD exists).
So she had a big freak-out, told the guy off, and then came online to make a blog post about what a huge asshole he was, how dare he grab her, etc. etc.
A lot of people were basically like "Yeah, how dare he!" but a great many more were like "uh don't you think you over-reacted a little on him? He was trying to save you from being hit by a car. Yes it is unfortunate that he triggered you but he was trying to save you from getting killed".
This led to a cawing circle of people screaming about SAFE SPACE and how they're victim-blaming and so on.
VH, you should give LoL a shake, you might like it.
What makes it better than DotA?
Because I was playing SCII's DotA and I was not pleased.
Well I can't speak for SCII's DotA at all, didn't even know there was one. I wouldn't trust an SC2 DotA anyway, all the key DotA people have moved on to either LoL or HoN or other real games.
Why LoL is better than WC3 DotA, which is real DotA, is that it has better and more interesting heroes, it has more heroes, it has better creep and tower mechanics and AI, it's not constrained by being shoehorned into a different games engines, it has good networking and features, its well balanced, etc etc. It's basically DotA but, better.
VH, you should give LoL a shake, you might like it.
What makes it better than DotA?
Because I was playing SCII's DotA and I was not pleased.
I would still avoid SC2 custom games for a few more months Winky. People don't know how to full utilize the map creator till at least 6 months in. LoL other than the community of mouthbreathers outside of friends is kind of a fun but brain dead game. DoTA on War3 by the time it got popular was the same. Pretty balanced, based a lot on skill and people were able to really do some cool design stuff with it.
So, Archer is pretty much the greatest show to watch while you're wasted. I literally cried from laughing at it and I'm not entirely sure why.
Alternately: don't do a Ph D.
You probably won't get to nail the other hot Ph. D candidate in your group, because you're not nearly as awesome as I am and thus it will just be soul destroying and let's face it, the crazy chick is just crazy.
High five "sleeping with the hot girl in your group" buddy. I just wish the rest of the PhD was as successful.
Wait, really?
Up. Top. You and me are totally getting trashed together as soon as I con my supervisor into sending me to England because apparently international travel is something university's love.
Also: Timothy McLeary Checkout this Theory: firstly your name is hard to type. Secondly: You're like the fifth person to recommend cough syrup over absinthe. If there was ever a ringing internet endorsement...
Ultimately, whether or not a state is a disease-state is largely socially determined; when we say "X is a disease" what we're really saying is "people shouldn't have X, and medical professionals are the best people to get rid of X or reduce X's effects." The first part of that is a normative judgment, the second part of that is a pragmatic one.
Nobody's been able to come up with a culture-independent definition of "disease."
Well, at least for mental disorders
Even physical diseases require a value judgment. It's just that when it comes to them it's much easier to find a uniform, cross-cultural consensus on "I don't want my dick to explode into bloody shreds."
Yep, Winky got it exactly.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Ultimately, whether or not a state is a disease-state is largely socially determined; when we say "X is a disease" what we're really saying is "people shouldn't have X, and medical professionals are the best people to get rid of X or reduce X's effects." The first part of that is a normative judgment, the second part of that is a pragmatic one.
Nobody's been able to come up with a culture-independent definition of "disease."
Well, at least for mental disorders
Even physical diseases require a value judgment. It's just that when it comes to them it's much easier to find a uniform, cross-cultural consensus on "I don't want my dick to explode into bloody shreds."
Will, I smell the Internet. I sniff your posts, they are like succulent hams to my nostrils. The Internet is as real to me as what you call the "real world". Your intolerance stinks of sulfur, the eggs rotting next to the festering ham that once shone with grease. I must throw it in the garbage for the hobos must feast this evening.
Preacher! I can't see that youtube cause I'm at work but
when I saw Daxon's post, I immediately thought "man I wish I could link him Black Dynomite." apparently we think alike.
and yes it's on netflix instant watch
Its a great movie that no one saw. Shit I throw that movie before I enter the room...
I saw it, it was great.
The Black Dynamite drinking game will get you DRUNK.
Drink everytime something awesome happens?
Let's put it this way. Two drinks every time he high kicks.
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I like that people are discovering the awesomeness of Archer. It was an entirely unexpected surprise when I saw it last year. It reminded me of Sealab 2021 back when it was good, only a thousand times tighter and consistently better.
Anyone know when the new season starts?
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Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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Will, I smell the Internet. I sniff your posts, they are like succulent hams to my nostrils. The Internet is as real to me as what you call the "real world". Your intolerance stinks of sulfur, the eggs rotting next to the festering ham that once shone with grease. I must throw it in the garbage for the hobos must feast this evening.
this is a pretty good post
i greet it with tolerance and basic courtesy
The hobos will starve this night as I sit to feast.
VH, you should give LoL a shake, you might like it.
What makes it better than DotA?
Because I was playing SCII's DotA and I was not pleased.
Well I can't speak for SCII's DotA at all, didn't even know there was one. I wouldn't trust an SC2 DotA anyway, all the key DotA people have moved on to either LoL or HoN or other real games.
Why LoL is better than WC3 DotA, which is real DotA, is that it has better and more interesting heroes, it has more heroes, it has better creep and tower mechanics and AI, it's not constrained by being shoehorned into a different games engines, it has good networking and features, its well balanced, etc etc. It's basically DotA but, better.
VH, you should give LoL a shake, you might like it.
What makes it better than DotA?
Because I was playing SCII's DotA and I was not pleased.
Well I can't speak for SCII's DotA at all, didn't even know there was one. I wouldn't trust an SC2 DotA anyway, all the key DotA people have moved on to either LoL or HoN or other real games.
Why LoL is better than WC3 DotA, which is real DotA, is that it has better and more interesting heroes, it has more heroes, it has better creep and tower mechanics and AI, it's not constrained by being shoehorned into a different games engines, it has good networking and features, its well balanced, etc etc. It's basically DotA but, better.
Hmm, it was a year since I played LoL but when I did nothing of this was true. But I guess it might have changed a lot in a year.
Will, I went to this old-fashioned 1920's speakeasy the other day for happy hour. The drinks were delicious. I had a Tom Collins, a mojito, a Moscow Mule (which I loved) and a margarita. They were all fresh and used delicious light ingredients. Nothing syrupy to be found.
At the end, I was feeling a little bold and ordered a Pisco Sour. My friends were grossed out by the egg white, but I figured why not. In the end I really didn't enjoy it. Did I drink a bad one out of all those good drinks, or is Pisco really kind of gross?
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Winky how do you know so much about bloody dick shreds.
Dickwolves.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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Yes, Pony, that is a problem. But I don't think that's most of most safespaces. Of course, that the only safe spaces I've visited tended to be pretty good is a possibility, but so far I haven't seen too many that had more of what you describe than what they were designed for.
In other words, I don't see a lot of people complaining about someone triggering them by saving them, but do see a lot of people being able to discuss assaults without being asked "Well, why'd you let him drive you home?"
And people really do need a space to talk without questions like that.
I like that people are discovering the awesomeness of Archer. It was an entirely unexpected surprise when I saw it last year. It reminded me of Sealab 2021 back when it was good, only a thousand times tighter and consistently better.
Anyone know when the new season starts?
I am surprised they take a month to animate each episode, and it apparently goes through 3 studios. I mean, it seems like they were trying to make it as convoluted as possible to produce. We live in an age where South Park is produced in god damned Maya.
Will, I went to this old-fashioned 1920's speakeasy the other day for happy hour. The drinks were delicious. I had a Tom Collins, a mojito, a Moscow Mule (which I loved) and a margarita. They were all fresh and used delicious light ingredients. Nothing syrupy to be found.
ugh this is why i can't order fancy drinks here in charleston
It is free. Basically, the game has a buncha champions, but every week like 8 or so of them are free to play. The other characters aren't available unless you have purchased them. You can purchase them with riot points that you buy with money, or with influence points that you earn from playing the game. Buying a hero will mean that it is always available to you.
There's also other stuff you can buy with points, but most of it won't matter till down the road. I think the only thing you can buy with only money are alternate costumes for your heroes, but, those are purely cosmetic.
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Well I guess I will have to download this overnight because it's being retarded and only downloading at 8 KB/s for some reason.
Also if we get a group together of chat folks I will be happy to play all the time.
Cass some of her friends play, I've got a decent contingent of IRL friends that play, and then there a buncha G&Ters (like Zen!). But, I probably wouldn't hang with the G&Ters till you get a good grasp on the game. I haven't played with them but they seem pretty srs bizness.
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I like that people are discovering the awesomeness of Archer. It was an entirely unexpected surprise when I saw it last year. It reminded me of Sealab 2021 back when it was good, only a thousand times tighter and consistently better.
Anyone know when the new season starts?
I am surprised they take a month to animate each episode, and it apparently goes through 3 studios. I mean, it seems like they were trying to make it as convoluted as possible to produce. We live in an age where South Park is produced in god damned Maya.
Archer looks like it's produced in Maya too for that matter. Hell, Metalocalypse is produced in Maya and it looks fine.
I've personally encountered the difficulties faced with identifying behaviors as psychological pathologies
I was diagnosed with ASPD, which not only was a diagnosis of behavior but led to a classification of me as a person. It led to legal repercussions (I couldn't get a driver's license for years because of it) and it led to me allowing that diagnosis to define me as a person and I used it as a crutch to excuse some of my worst behaviors. It facilitated me burying emotional responses and reactions that would be contrary to the diagnosis and overlooking facts that would cause it to be questionable.
Years later it was identified as incorrect and overturned. Had a pretty profound impact on my life, that.
Currently I have a diagnosis of "Personality Disorder (Not Otherwise Specified)". This essentially says that my psychiatrist believes my personality is aberrant from the norm to the extent that he considers it a pathological disorder to be treated medically, but in a way that currently (as of the DSM IV) is not accurately classifiable in any one category.
Will, I went to this old-fashioned 1920's speakeasy the other day for happy hour. The drinks were delicious. I had a Tom Collins, a mojito, a Moscow Mule (which I loved) and a margarita. They were all fresh and used delicious light ingredients. Nothing syrupy to be found.
ugh this is why i can't order fancy drinks here in charleston
Yeah, you'd be shocked to find how much more refreshing a margarita is when it's not like 95% HFCS.
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Sazerac Metrion Zinthos!
bee arr bee
an old-fashioned is the simplest cocktail there is
that said, its construction varies a whole lot from place to place.
most places i've had one was muddled fruit (typically orange & cherry), whiskey, bitters, and sugar or syrup.
sometimes there's no muddled fruit, but instead they will add a twist and express it in the glass.
basically, if the bar serves cocktails at all they ought to be able to figure out the old fashioned
but it might not be the best old-fashioned
The problem is that "SAFE SPACE" gets used as a rebuke to any sort of challenge to a notion a person may have put forth and is largely done as a way to exclude people that aren't the same as the speaker.
For example, a while back a friend of mine linked me to a blog post of a woman who was a sexual assault victim, years later trying to date again.
She was on a date with a guy she met online, and while crossing the street she stepped out into traffic and there was an oncoming car. So the guy she was with grabbed her from behind and pulled her out of traffic.
This "triggered" her, being suddenly and forcefully grabbed and pulled from behind by a man, and she proceeded to have a "trigger event" (which is the feminist codeword for "post-traumatic stress episode" since a lot of them don't like to acknowledge PTSD exists).
So she had a big freak-out, told the guy off, and then came online to make a blog post about what a huge asshole he was, how dare he grab her, etc. etc.
A lot of people were basically like "Yeah, how dare he!" but a great many more were like "uh don't you think you over-reacted a little on him? He was trying to save you from being hit by a car. Yes it is unfortunate that he triggered you but he was trying to save you from getting killed".
This led to a cawing circle of people screaming about SAFE SPACE and how they're victim-blaming and so on.
That is a problem.
Well I can't speak for SCII's DotA at all, didn't even know there was one. I wouldn't trust an SC2 DotA anyway, all the key DotA people have moved on to either LoL or HoN or other real games.
Why LoL is better than WC3 DotA, which is real DotA, is that it has better and more interesting heroes, it has more heroes, it has better creep and tower mechanics and AI, it's not constrained by being shoehorned into a different games engines, it has good networking and features, its well balanced, etc etc. It's basically DotA but, better.
Drink everytime something awesome happens?
pleasepaypreacher.net
I would still avoid SC2 custom games for a few more months Winky. People don't know how to full utilize the map creator till at least 6 months in. LoL other than the community of mouthbreathers outside of friends is kind of a fun but brain dead game. DoTA on War3 by the time it got popular was the same. Pretty balanced, based a lot on skill and people were able to really do some cool design stuff with it.
General game play doesn't change that much.
Wait, really?
Up. Top. You and me are totally getting trashed together as soon as I con my supervisor into sending me to England because apparently international travel is something university's love.
Also: Timothy McLeary Checkout this Theory: firstly your name is hard to type. Secondly: You're like the fifth person to recommend cough syrup over absinthe. If there was ever a ringing internet endorsement...
Yep, Winky got it exactly.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I stand corrected
this is a pretty good post
i greet it with tolerance and basic courtesy
Let's put it this way. Two drinks every time he high kicks.
Anyone know when the new season starts?
The hobos will starve this night as I sit to feast.
Is it free?
If it is they I will download it.
So many bars!
Hmm, it was a year since I played LoL but when I did nothing of this was true. But I guess it might have changed a lot in a year.
You should just drink everytime theres a movie mistake, you'd still be plenty wasted.
pleasepaypreacher.net
I need a good game to play on my Mac that won't tax the lame video card.
At the end, I was feeling a little bold and ordered a Pisco Sour. My friends were grossed out by the egg white, but I figured why not. In the end I really didn't enjoy it. Did I drink a bad one out of all those good drinks, or is Pisco really kind of gross?
i'm here
My favorite is the incredibly convoluted explanation of the conspiracy at the end.
Dickwolves.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
In other words, I don't see a lot of people complaining about someone triggering them by saving them, but do see a lot of people being able to discuss assaults without being asked "Well, why'd you let him drive you home?"
And people really do need a space to talk without questions like that.
I am surprised they take a month to animate each episode, and it apparently goes through 3 studios. I mean, it seems like they were trying to make it as convoluted as possible to produce. We live in an age where South Park is produced in god damned Maya.
ugh this is why i can't order fancy drinks here in charleston
It is free. Basically, the game has a buncha champions, but every week like 8 or so of them are free to play. The other characters aren't available unless you have purchased them. You can purchase them with riot points that you buy with money, or with influence points that you earn from playing the game. Buying a hero will mean that it is always available to you.
There's also other stuff you can buy with points, but most of it won't matter till down the road. I think the only thing you can buy with only money are alternate costumes for your heroes, but, those are purely cosmetic.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Cass some of her friends play, I've got a decent contingent of IRL friends that play, and then there a buncha G&Ters (like Zen!). But, I probably wouldn't hang with the G&Ters till you get a good grasp on the game. I haven't played with them but they seem pretty srs bizness.
Archer looks like it's produced in Maya too for that matter. Hell, Metalocalypse is produced in Maya and it looks fine.
I'd love to learn how to animate in Maya
Also Whiskey Collins
damnit I just need to start allocating money for liquor and ingredients
I was diagnosed with ASPD, which not only was a diagnosis of behavior but led to a classification of me as a person. It led to legal repercussions (I couldn't get a driver's license for years because of it) and it led to me allowing that diagnosis to define me as a person and I used it as a crutch to excuse some of my worst behaviors. It facilitated me burying emotional responses and reactions that would be contrary to the diagnosis and overlooking facts that would cause it to be questionable.
Years later it was identified as incorrect and overturned. Had a pretty profound impact on my life, that.
Currently I have a diagnosis of "Personality Disorder (Not Otherwise Specified)". This essentially says that my psychiatrist believes my personality is aberrant from the norm to the extent that he considers it a pathological disorder to be treated medically, but in a way that currently (as of the DSM IV) is not accurately classifiable in any one category.
Which is pretty shitty, really.
Can't Macs run windows these days?
Yeah, you'd be shocked to find how much more refreshing a margarita is when it's not like 95% HFCS.
If we have anything in the house...
Hm, might be issues with your uploading as I think it is a torrent style download? Dunno, that sucks though.