Damn it, I have Castle and Chuck to watch tonight. Civ5 unlocks in a few hours and I have an M&M game tonight. Doh! Damn you Tuesdays! Damn you to hell!
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Wait, you mean the sticky he put up, or a fresh post?
How about a game where you travel through time and take photographs of famous historical events while searching for a mysterious woman in a red coat?
I was thinking more the shtick gets disrupted when you drop your camera in the past and this screws up the present, but this may be a bit too Singularitish.
Wheeeeeeere iiiiiiis Caaaarmen Sandiego, Carmen Sandiego?
I hate that kind of time travel
how about you find out that what you did in the past is what cause the present to be the way it is?
without "changing" magically because that's dumb
Oh, the "Doctor blew up Pompeii" approach? That could work.
There are infinite potential hypotheses. If you falsify a set of these hypotheses, any arbitrarily large set, you still are left with infinite potential hypotheses. So how can you be getting any closer to the truth by doing so?
I'm thinking the answer has to do with bounding the set of hypotheses.
You can use the previous data to predict the falsifiability of the other hypotheses
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Usual teenage drama, someone asked someone else to prom, but there was a better person like right there and they just never noticed them totally wanting to be asked.
Oh goddammit really? I thought everything was fine and we could lose the impending threat of closure hanging over our heads, like coconuts in a tree.
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There are infinite potential hypotheses. If you falsify a set of these hypotheses, any arbitrarily large set, you still are left with infinite potential hypotheses. So how can you be getting any closer to the truth by doing so?
I'm thinking the answer has to do with bounding the set of hypotheses.
Are you looking for a practical answer like "In the process of eliminating false hypotheses we also gain information with which to start predicting the likelihood of remaining hypothesis to be true"?
I'm looking for it in more abstract terms. Note that I don't actually know if there's an answer here. This was a problem my philosophy of science teacher posed to me, I'm don't know of anyone who has written on this specific subject.
But I am somewhat interested in this concept of cumulative data shaping future hypotheses, because that does put a hard limit on which hypotheses can be posed. Like I said, bounding, there's still an infinite number of potential hypotheses, but only within parameters.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Usual teenage drama, someone asked someone else to prom, but there was a better person like right there and they just never noticed them totally wanting to be asked.
Ugh, Prom. I didn't go to mine so I could save the pride of a girl.
Yea, I don't think scientific discovery is just going to make a completely ridiculous left turn like "whoops. nope; unicorns working marionettes all along. We were way off!"
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Usual teenage drama, someone asked someone else to prom, but there was a better person like right there and they just never noticed them totally wanting to be asked.
Oh goddammit really? I thought everything was fine and we could lose the impending threat of closure hanging over our heads, like coconuts in a tree.
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Usual teenage drama, someone asked someone else to prom, but there was a better person like right there and they just never noticed them totally wanting to be asked.
Ugh, Prom. I didn't go to mine so I could save the pride of a girl.
How about a game where you travel through time and take photographs of famous historical events while searching for a mysterious woman in a red coat?
I was thinking more the shtick gets disrupted when you drop your camera in the past and this screws up the present, but this may be a bit too Singularitish.
Wheeeeeeere iiiiiiis Caaaarmen Sandiego, Carmen Sandiego?
I hate that kind of time travel
how about you find out that what you did in the past is what cause the present to be the way it is?
without "changing" magically because that's dumb
Oh, the "Doctor blew up Pompeii" approach? That could work.
yeah because any other way makes no sense
because let's say you enter the time machine in 2020 and exit in 1920
if you do something in 1920, when does the present (2020) change?
it changes in 1920, right?
well, in 2020, the change happened a hundred years ago. You already saw the changes.
Because time travel is simply arriving before you left.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Usual teenage drama, someone asked someone else to prom, but there was a better person like right there and they just never noticed them totally wanting to be asked.
Ugh, Prom. I didn't go to mine so I could save the pride of a girl.
... wha?
A girl asked me to go to Prom who I really didn't want to go with. She just wasn't my type, she was a nice girl, just not in that way. So, I made up a quick and easy lie, something that I didn't have the money and I was going out of town that weekend with my folks or something. You know, let her down easy.
And then her rather cute best friend who I liked asked me to go to prom with her. I could only imagine what it would feel like if I showed up to prom with her best friend after telling her I couldn't make it. So, I stuck to my lie and spent prom at home playing videogames.
There are infinite potential hypotheses. If you falsify a set of these hypotheses, any arbitrarily large set, you still are left with infinite potential hypotheses. So how can you be getting any closer to the truth by doing so?
I'm thinking the answer has to do with bounding the set of hypotheses.
Are you looking for a practical answer like "In the process of eliminating false hypotheses we also gain information with which to start predicting the likelihood of remaining hypothesis to be true"?
I'm looking for it in more abstract terms. Note that I don't actually know if there's an answer here. This was a problem my philosophy of science teacher posed to me, I'm don't know of anyone who has written on this specific subject.
But I am somewhat interested in this concept of cumulative data shaping future hypotheses, because that does put a hard limit on which hypotheses can be posed. Like I said, bounding, there's still an infinite number of potential hypotheses, but only within parameters.
I think that is the point, and given this is a philosphy of science class, most likely what he is trying to get you to think about.
I.E. that the scientific method's strength is not only in its ability to test hypotheses, but also in its ability to make accurate predictions about future, untested, hypotheses
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Usual teenage drama, someone asked someone else to prom, but there was a better person like right there and they just never noticed them totally wanting to be asked.
Ugh, Prom. I didn't go to mine so I could save the pride of a girl.
... wha?
A girl asked me to go to Prom who I really didn't want to go with. She just wasn't my type, she was a nice girl, just not in that way. So, I made up a quick and easy lie, something that I didn't have the money and I was going out of town that weekend with my folks or something. You know, let her down easy.
And then her rather cute best friend who I liked asked me to go to prom with her. I could only imagine what it would feel like if I showed up to prom with her best friend after telling her I couldn't make it. So, I stuck to my lie and spent prom at home playing videogames.
I am so proud of my philosophy of science paper too, I totally ripped Kuhn a new one.
I am aware of the hubris here.
Well Kuhn is kind of wrong on the nature of scientific advancement, and he draws his ideas from a few key events he considers to be "significant revolutions", which I think totally misses the point of science and is a large-scale abstraction of the actual situation*.
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Usual teenage drama, someone asked someone else to prom, but there was a better person like right there and they just never noticed them totally wanting to be asked.
Oh goddammit really? I thought everything was fine and we could lose the impending threat of closure hanging over our heads, like coconuts in a tree.
Heck no.
This place was down right acidic earlier in the weekend.
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HerrCronIt that wickedly supports taxationRegistered Userregular
So I popped in after a game last night and saw a post from Tube telling us to get our act together but I completely had no context or frame of reference.
What happened?
Usual teenage drama, someone asked someone else to prom, but there was a better person like right there and they just never noticed them totally wanting to be asked.
Oh goddammit really? I thought everything was fine and we could lose the impending threat of closure hanging over our heads, like coconuts in a tree.
How about a game where you travel through time and take photographs of famous historical events while searching for a mysterious woman in a red coat?
I was thinking more the shtick gets disrupted when you drop your camera in the past and this screws up the present, but this may be a bit too Singularitish.
Wheeeeeeere iiiiiiis Caaaarmen Sandiego, Carmen Sandiego?
I hate that kind of time travel
how about you find out that what you did in the past is what cause the present to be the way it is?
without "changing" magically because that's dumb
Oh, the "Doctor blew up Pompeii" approach? That could work.
yeah because any other way makes no sense
because let's say you enter the time machine in 2020 and exit in 1920
if you do something in 1920, when does the present (2020) change?
it changes in 1920, right?
well, in 2020, the change happened a hundred years ago. You already saw the changes.
Because time travel is simply arriving before you left.
I like the idea that changing stuff in the past shunts YOU in to an alternate timeline where the changes you enacted took place. Your original 2020 is the same, and everyone there just thinks you disappeared mysteriously.
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Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
If you figure it out, lemmie know.
Cos I'm as confused as fuck right now.
There's a bit of bickering a few pages before, Res got infracted. It all seems quite minor though, the other chatters start thrashing about and screaming though. I only skimmed through it though. I really think I must've missed something.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
And I also think that the ability to travel from one timeline to another is movement in the fifth dimension, but I use "think" very pointedly here, and am open to the possibility I may be wrong.
There are infinite potential hypotheses. If you falsify a set of these hypotheses, any arbitrarily large set, you still are left with infinite potential hypotheses. So how can you be getting any closer to the truth by doing so?
I'm thinking the answer has to do with bounding the set of hypotheses.
Are you looking for a practical answer like "In the process of eliminating false hypotheses we also gain information with which to start predicting the likelihood of remaining hypothesis to be true"?
I'm looking for it in more abstract terms. Note that I don't actually know if there's an answer here. This was a problem my philosophy of science teacher posed to me, I'm don't know of anyone who has written on this specific subject.
But I am somewhat interested in this concept of cumulative data shaping future hypotheses, because that does put a hard limit on which hypotheses can be posed. Like I said, bounding, there's still an infinite number of potential hypotheses, but only within parameters.
I'd also like to see how 'infinite potential hypotheses' works, unless you're doing something silly like counting duplicates or allowing for an infinite amount of information in a system.
There might be a seemingly infinite amount of hay in a stack, but combing through it still gets us closer to the needle.
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HerrCronIt that wickedly supports taxationRegistered Userregular
If you figure it out, lemmie know.
Cos I'm as confused as fuck right now.
There's a bit of bickering a few pages before, Res got infracted. It all seems quite minor though, the other chatters start thrashing about and screaming though. I only skimmed through it though. I really think I must've missed something.
Yeah, i seem forever destined to pop in just after everything has happened going "huh? why is everyone on edge. And someone should close that barn door, a horse might bolt..."
Posts
Do we?
I mean, I would like to know if that is confirmed
A fresh post in the thread.
Oh, the "Doctor blew up Pompeii" approach? That could work.
You can use the previous data to predict the falsifiability of the other hypotheses
Wait crap Tim already said this
Meh.
Oh goddammit really? I thought everything was fine and we could lose the impending threat of closure hanging over our heads, like coconuts in a tree.
What seriously, I thought Marvel has a whole "sliding timescale" thing, so he'd be fighting in, like, Iraq or something.
Unless he's like 60 in the avengers movie, or frozen and has to adapt to the 2000s like a super-serious austin powers.
I'm looking for it in more abstract terms. Note that I don't actually know if there's an answer here. This was a problem my philosophy of science teacher posed to me, I'm don't know of anyone who has written on this specific subject.
But I am somewhat interested in this concept of cumulative data shaping future hypotheses, because that does put a hard limit on which hypotheses can be posed. Like I said, bounding, there's still an infinite number of potential hypotheses, but only within parameters.
... wha?
Found ze post:
Though I still don't know the context, I guess I could do some sleuthing?
I went. Got slapped not long after.
I haven't gotten a message from Jacob saying it's canceled. And god knows I love foolish hopes.
yeah because any other way makes no sense
because let's say you enter the time machine in 2020 and exit in 1920
if you do something in 1920, when does the present (2020) change?
it changes in 1920, right?
well, in 2020, the change happened a hundred years ago. You already saw the changes.
Because time travel is simply arriving before you left.
A girl asked me to go to Prom who I really didn't want to go with. She just wasn't my type, she was a nice girl, just not in that way. So, I made up a quick and easy lie, something that I didn't have the money and I was going out of town that weekend with my folks or something. You know, let her down easy.
And then her rather cute best friend who I liked asked me to go to prom with her. I could only imagine what it would feel like if I showed up to prom with her best friend after telling her I couldn't make it. So, I stuck to my lie and spent prom at home playing videogames.
I think that is the point, and given this is a philosphy of science class, most likely what he is trying to get you to think about.
I.E. that the scientific method's strength is not only in its ability to test hypotheses, but also in its ability to make accurate predictions about future, untested, hypotheses
Well Kuhn is kind of wrong on the nature of scientific advancement, and he draws his ideas from a few key events he considers to be "significant revolutions", which I think totally misses the point of science and is a large-scale abstraction of the actual situation*.
*
No idea.
Heck no.
This place was down right acidic earlier in the weekend.
If you figure it out, lemmie know.
Cos I'm as confused as fuck right now.
Who should I add to my Book of Grudges?
Well, the post before is Thom talking about cute puppies... so problem solved, I think.
The best I can tell is that Res and DSC got into a really silly insult flinging match, and looks like they both got slapped with infractions for it.
it was basically just a vorspiel then
subsequent years we all dropped it and went out drinking instead
I like the idea that changing stuff in the past shunts YOU in to an alternate timeline where the changes you enacted took place. Your original 2020 is the same, and everyone there just thinks you disappeared mysteriously.
There's a bit of bickering a few pages before, Res got infracted. It all seems quite minor though, the other chatters start thrashing about and screaming though. I only skimmed through it though. I really think I must've missed something.
metamodding was involved
the great hedgehog in the sky was invoked
skippy?
Option 2.
Yes, it was super serious and a whole lot of "damn kids".
I'd also like to see how 'infinite potential hypotheses' works, unless you're doing something silly like counting duplicates or allowing for an infinite amount of information in a system.
There might be a seemingly infinite amount of hay in a stack, but combing through it still gets us closer to the needle.
Yeah, i seem forever destined to pop in just after everything has happened going "huh? why is everyone on edge. And someone should close that barn door, a horse might bolt..."