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[DnD 4E Discussion] Staff Fighter and Pyromancer essentials builds released on time!

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    HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    this is because half-orcs are the master race, ironzerg

    we've been over this

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Re: Optimus, as for your question about 2nd-level wizard spells that deal damage, there aren't many but one in particular hits like a truck:
    [Melf's] Acid Arrow - 2d4 damage for 1 round + 1/3 levels
    Flaming Sphere - 2d6 damage that is guided around, 1 round/lvl
    Scorching Ray - 4d6 fire damage/ray, +1 ray/four levels

    Just remember that acid arrow and scorching ray require touch attacks. Of course, touch attacks against creatures have laughably low AC defenses (unless by some oddity you're facing a force-based creature) so it's not likely the wizard will miss.

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Aegis wrote: »
    Rius, you are the most amazing person.

    I Made you a Paragon Path!

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Aegis wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I really wish I had my old books, because I know there are better single target damage spells than Lightning Bolt.

    No need!

    www.d20srd.org

    It is the best thing. I still use it frequently because it is the best thing. It covers only 3.5 rules, naturally.
    Yeah, I was talking about older editions. The real D&D genes skipped that particular generation. :P

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Pfft, 3/3.5 was great :P

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    ironzerg wrote: »
    Horseshoe wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Goliath
    Rogue, Ruthless Ruffian
    16 Str, 16 Dex
    Goliath Greatweapon Prowess

    2d4+3+3+2+2d6 as a first level At Will attack.

    Glorious

    I am a fan of the Ruthless Ruffian

    Greatly underestimated Rogue build IMO.

    Some people flip their shit over +2 proficiency weapons that are also not daggers but man... look at that at will attack.

    It probably also has the rattling keyword.

    But wouldn't a Half-Orc Brutal Scoundrel with 18 Str 18 Dex (and assume one feat, Backstabber) do:

    1d4+4+2d8+4

    Which would be about the same damage, with +3 more to hit (Weapon Talent/+1 Dex/+1 Prof)?
    If we're spotting the half orc an extra feat (prof: greatclub) why wouldn't we spot the goliath the same (Backstabber)?

    Edit: Misread.

    Why are we doing it? Because it's a giant dude sneak attacking with a gorram greatclub, that's why. I thought that would be obvious.

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    HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    ironzerg wrote: »
    Horseshoe wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Goliath
    Rogue, Ruthless Ruffian
    16 Str, 16 Dex
    Goliath Greatweapon Prowess

    2d4+3+3+2+2d6 as a first level At Will attack.

    Glorious

    I am a fan of the Ruthless Ruffian

    Greatly underestimated Rogue build IMO.

    Some people flip their shit over +2 proficiency weapons that are also not daggers but man... look at that at will attack.

    It probably also has the rattling keyword.

    But wouldn't a Half-Orc Brutal Scoundrel with 18 Str 18 Dex (and assume one feat, Backstabber) do:

    1d4+4+2d8+4

    Which would be about the same damage, with +3 more to hit (Weapon Talent/+1 Dex/+1 Prof)?
    If we're spotting the half orc an extra feat (prof: greatclub) why wouldn't we spot the goliath the same (Backstabber)?

    Edit: Misread.

    Why are we doing it? Because it's a giant dude sneak attacking with a gorram greatclub, that's why. I thought that would be obvious.

    There needs to be appreciation for big meatheads that hit things with large objects.

    I dream of a party entirely made of Goliaths.

    Constantly smashing everything.

    Solving skill challenges with creative smashings.

    And at epic level, clubbing the Universe into submission.

    All Of The Universes.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Horseshoe wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    ironzerg wrote: »
    Horseshoe wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Goliath
    Rogue, Ruthless Ruffian
    16 Str, 16 Dex
    Goliath Greatweapon Prowess

    2d4+3+3+2+2d6 as a first level At Will attack.

    Glorious

    I am a fan of the Ruthless Ruffian

    Greatly underestimated Rogue build IMO.

    Some people flip their shit over +2 proficiency weapons that are also not daggers but man... look at that at will attack.

    It probably also has the rattling keyword.

    But wouldn't a Half-Orc Brutal Scoundrel with 18 Str 18 Dex (and assume one feat, Backstabber) do:

    1d4+4+2d8+4

    Which would be about the same damage, with +3 more to hit (Weapon Talent/+1 Dex/+1 Prof)?
    If we're spotting the half orc an extra feat (prof: greatclub) why wouldn't we spot the goliath the same (Backstabber)?

    Edit: Misread.

    Why are we doing it? Because it's a giant dude sneak attacking with a gorram greatclub, that's why. I thought that would be obvious.

    There needs to be appreciation for big meatheads that hit things with large objects.

    I dream of a party entirely made of Goliaths.

    Constantly smashing everything.

    Solving skill challenges with creative smashings.

    And at epic level, clubbing the Universe into submission.

    All Of The Universes.
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    I would totally play it. I love theme games.

    Like the time it just so happened that our party had an average of 15 Str, 15 Cha, and 9 Wis/Int.

    First and likely only adventuring guild that moonlighted as an all nude male revue.

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    FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I've actually toyed with a similar idea, Dani, though mine was more setting up a frontier in a more typical D&D world.

    With dwarven gunsmiths and Half Orc barbarians with flintlocks and such.

    And an Eladrin Pinkerton agency.

    This remindes me of how I would love to make/see released a setting the borrowed heavly from Arcanum; Magic vs. Tech Victorian Steampunk world that (Arcanum spoilers)
    Had been going back and forth between Magic-domanate and Tech-domanate for thousands (or possibly even hundreds of thousands of years, and only a few people are aware of it

    I love that game's world so much...

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    ravensmuseravensmuse Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well, because of Encounters tonight (which I'll write up tomorrow on my blog; plug plug plug) I ended up picking up Heroes of the Fallen Lands. Too bad it's three books back in the line of things I'm trying to read at the moment.

    Encounters also introduced my 3.5 loving girlfriend to Essentials, and she was pretty pleased with what she saw. She thinks that there's way too many powers in 4e, and the more focused bent to Essentials characters was more up her alley. So.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    ravensmuse wrote: »
    Encounters also introduced my 3.5 loving girlfriend to Essentials, and she was pretty pleased with what she saw. She thinks that there's way too many powers in 4e, and the more focused bent to Essentials characters was more up her alley. So.

    I'm not making a statement about worth with regards to "Normal 4e" and "Essentials 4e" when I say Heroes of the Fallen Lands felt more like the D&D I played growing up.

    With regard to lots of people who were lost in the move to 4e I think this may be the thing to bring them back with.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    ravensmuse wrote: »
    Encounters also introduced my 3.5 loving girlfriend to Essentials, and she was pretty pleased with what she saw. She thinks that there's way too many powers in 4e, and the more focused bent to Essentials characters was more up her alley. So.

    I'm not making a statement about worth with regards to "Normal 4e" and "Essentials 4e" when I say Heroes of the Fallen Lands felt more like the D&D I played growing up.

    With regard to lots of people who were lost in the move to 4e I think this may be the thing to bring them back with.
    Essentials is really hitting the nostalgia centers of my brain.

    It does kind of feel like a return to form in a lot of ways.

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    PantheraOncaPantheraOnca Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Horseshoe wrote: »

    Constantly smashing everything.

    Solving skill challenges with creative smashings.

    And at epic level, clubbing the Universe into submission.

    All Of The Universes.

    that ^^^ reminds me of this:

    http://twitter.com/feministhulk

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    HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    oh my god

    this is the kind of thing that could inspire a character
    SMASH IS SO AWESOME / HULK CANNOT EXPRESS IT IN / SPACE OF TWEET HAIKU

    fuggin genius man

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Horseshoe wrote: »
    oh my god

    this is the kind of thing that could inspire a character
    SMASH IS SO AWESOME / HULK CANNOT EXPRESS IT IN / SPACE OF TWEET HAIKU

    fuggin genius man
    HULK TAKE MID-DAY POST-SMASH NAP. HULK RESIST SLEEP SCHEDULE DICTATED BY WESTERN CAPITALISM. ALSO, SMASH MAKE SLEEPY.

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    streeverstreever Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Man, an all goliath party could be awesome. Almost as awesome as all dwarf.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Oh man. I've been running the occasional pickup game the landlord and some kids. They're used to AD&D or have never played D&D at all, and teaching kids is tremendously difficult. I could never keep them interested, only the magic-users were consistantly relying on powers, no one really knew what was going on, and the landlord would just complain and complain. I was about ready to give up.

    And then I remembered D&D Essentials. I'm gonna run that next time, because as I understand it, that's the system that's meant to introduce new players as well as help bridge the gap for the old school.

    Thank you, Mike Mearls. You may have ruined D&D, but you saved my game.

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    FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    streever wrote: »
    Man, an all goliath party could be awesome. Almost as awesome as all dwarf.

    All Warforged Party... lead by a Warlord with the Legendary General ED. :P

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    tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    wasn't that a pbp?

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    AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Foefaller wrote: »
    streever wrote: »
    Man, an all goliath party could be awesome. Almost as awesome as all dwarf.

    All Warforged Party... lead by a Warlord with the Legendary General ED. :P

    There is actually a monster in the Dark Sun creature catalog that gets a pretty hefty damage bonus against warforged (due to having an anti-construct bonus). Not to mention how much damage it does anyway, so it's adding insult onto a large amount of injury. It can probably knock every character to negative bloodied easily.

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    HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    streever wrote: »
    Man, an all goliath party could be awesome. Almost as awesome as all dwarf.

    All Warforged Party... lead by a Warlord with the Legendary General ED. :P

    There is actually a monster in the Dark Sun creature catalog that gets a pretty hefty damage bonus against warforged (due to having an anti-construct bonus). Not to mention how much damage it does anyway, so it's adding insult onto a large amount of injury. It can probably knock every character to negative bloodied easily.

    Is that the rampager?

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    AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hachface wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    streever wrote: »
    Man, an all goliath party could be awesome. Almost as awesome as all dwarf.

    All Warforged Party... lead by a Warlord with the Legendary General ED. :P

    There is actually a monster in the Dark Sun creature catalog that gets a pretty hefty damage bonus against warforged (due to having an anti-construct bonus). Not to mention how much damage it does anyway, so it's adding insult onto a large amount of injury. It can probably knock every character to negative bloodied easily.

    Is that the rampager?

    I think so. I can only imagine how hilarious that monster would look damage wise scaled to level 30. It already does ridiculous damage for its level (especially when bloodied). It actually makes me somewhat regret the lack of warforged/shardminds, because it's basically the ultimate "Screw you" to those races.

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    HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I think so. I can only imagine how hilarious that monster would look damage wise scaled to level 30. It already does ridiculous damage for its level (especially when bloodied). It actually makes me somewhat regret the lack of warforged/shardminds, because it's basically the ultimate "Screw you" to those races.

    Maybe that is the developer's deviously subtle way to punish players who want to play non-default races in Athas. :lol:

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    streever wrote: »
    Man, an all goliath party could be awesome. Way more awesome than all dwarf, which would be unspeakably lame.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hachface wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I think so. I can only imagine how hilarious that monster would look damage wise scaled to level 30. It already does ridiculous damage for its level (especially when bloodied). It actually makes me somewhat regret the lack of warforged/shardminds, because it's basically the ultimate "Screw you" to those races.

    Maybe that is the developer's deviously subtle way to punish players who want to play non-default races in Athas. :lol:
    I have a reflavored Shard Mind in one of my Dark Sun games.

    I look forward to his encounter with the Ravager, especially given the two of them having roughly the same end goal (the destruction of virtually everything).

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    HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Hachface wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I think so. I can only imagine how hilarious that monster would look damage wise scaled to level 30. It already does ridiculous damage for its level (especially when bloodied). It actually makes me somewhat regret the lack of warforged/shardminds, because it's basically the ultimate "Screw you" to those races.

    Maybe that is the developer's deviously subtle way to punish players who want to play non-default races in Athas. :lol:
    I have a reflavored Shard Mind in one of my Dark Sun games.

    I look forward to his encounter with the Ravager, especially given the two of them having roughly the same end goal (the destruction of virtually everything).

    What's the deal with the reflavored shardmind, again?

    Some kind of sociopathic earth spirit?

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    With how many powers the Rogue has that debuff the target (blind, stun, daze, etc) I'm a little sad that the Thief has no such options. You can knock prone on MBAs, but that's about it.

    That's really the only thing that sucks for me about Thief vs Rogue. It'd be nice if Backstab could be improved by feats to apply those conditions.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hachface wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Hachface wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I think so. I can only imagine how hilarious that monster would look damage wise scaled to level 30. It already does ridiculous damage for its level (especially when bloodied). It actually makes me somewhat regret the lack of warforged/shardminds, because it's basically the ultimate "Screw you" to those races.

    Maybe that is the developer's deviously subtle way to punish players who want to play non-default races in Athas. :lol:
    I have a reflavored Shard Mind in one of my Dark Sun games.

    I look forward to his encounter with the Ravager, especially given the two of them having roughly the same end goal (the destruction of virtually everything).

    What's the deal with the reflavored shardmind, again?

    Some kind of sociopathic earth spirit?
    Sand storm spirit, actually.

    But he basically wants to become a primal sorceror king and rule the tablelands from the throne he will be building out of the bones of all sapient life on Athas.

    But right now he's bound to a piece of jewelry that is being worn by a wife of Nibenay, played by my wife.

    So there's some stress there.

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    HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Sand storm spirit, actually.

    But he basically wants to become a primal sorceror king and rule the tablelands from the throne he will be building out of the bones of all sapient life on Athas.

    But right now he's bound to a piece of jewelry that is being worn by a wife of Nibenay, played by my wife.

    So there's some stress there.

    I really really dig this party.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hachface wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Sand storm spirit, actually.

    But he basically wants to become a primal sorceror king and rule the tablelands from the throne he will be building out of the bones of all sapient life on Athas.

    But right now he's bound to a piece of jewelry that is being worn by a wife of Nibenay, played by my wife.

    So there's some stress there.

    I really really dig this party.
    Conrad would fit right in.

    We're headed to Raam to foment open rebellion. Should be fun.

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    ravensmuseravensmuse Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So I kind of touched on this last night, but I wanted to continue along with the thought -

    I wasn't much impressed by the fighter I picked up last night for Encounters. Oh boy - I have two stances, and I can either stand there and be a wall, or I can...stand there and be a wall. *Yawn*. If I want to have actual hitty type abilities, I'd have to go with slayer - or I could just, y'know, play a fsking regular fighter. Myself, I'll stick to the stuff in the PHBs.

    My girlfriend, on the other hand, came away from Encounters with a very different impression. Like I said before, she's a 3.* holdout; while she likes the characters she's built so far for 4e (a beastlord ranger, an assassin, and for my game, a barbarian) she's always mentioning that it always feels like she's "Super Saiyan" and has all of these over-the-top-kewl-powers that she feels overwhelmed choosing between when it comes her turn.

    So last night she picked up the slayer and had a ball with it. The abilities - you hit things, either more consistantly, or more powerfully - worked out for her. The fact that everything keyed off of basic attack was easy for her to grasp as well. To her, fighters and other non-magical types just hit things; where she understood tactically what powers were for, they still didn't quite click for her. Essentials though? Hit the right buttons. She was (gently) pushing me last night to pick up Heroes of the Fallen Lands, and started thumbing through it when we got home.

    So on that, Wizards has made a convert, and it makes me glad. If Essentials manages to quell the fanboy jihad some, I'll be glad about that too. I'm not much impressed by the Essentials characters, but I can see where it'll help bring more people in.

    But seriously, two books for everything that's in one book (PHB)? No thank you.

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    HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Hachface wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Sand storm spirit, actually.

    But he basically wants to become a primal sorceror king and rule the tablelands from the throne he will be building out of the bones of all sapient life on Athas.

    But right now he's bound to a piece of jewelry that is being worn by a wife of Nibenay, played by my wife.

    So there's some stress there.

    I really really dig this party.
    Conrad would fit right in.

    We're headed to Raam to foment open rebellion. Should be fun.

    Conrad would take every arcane defiling feat.

    Boy would defile all the time.

    Even when he didn't need to. Especially when he didn't need to.
    Wouldn't even feel bad about it.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well, if you're going to defile you might as well go all out.

    Right up until your party-mates stab you to death in your sleep.

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    CounterspinCounterspin Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    That's the way my party seems to be going. 3 primals, 1 psion, and that one guy that's going to end up dead. Presuming we ever escape the weird hive slave city that undergirds the Nibenay arena of course.

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    Owen EdwardsOwen Edwards Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well in my Dark Sun PbP a Wife of Nibenay sent to infiltrate Tyrian ziggurat construction fluffed two defiling rolls in front of High Templar Tithian, who is now blackmailing her into assisting his plots...she's not dead yet, but he is definitely watching her.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    ravensmuse wrote: »
    But seriously, two books for everything that's in one book (PHB)? No thank you.

    Do you know what confuses me about this attitude? The two books are each about half the price of the one book. I don't understand finding quantity somehow offensive.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well in my Dark Sun PbP [strike]a Wife of Nibenay sent to infiltrate Tyrian ziggurat construction[/strike] everyone fluffed [strike]two defiling[/strike] almost all their rolls in [strike]front of High Templar Tithian,who is now blackmailing her into assisting his plots[/strike] combat ...[strike]she's [/strike] they're not dead yet, but [strike]he is definitely watching her[/strike] but they will be. Oh yes. They will be.

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    Owen EdwardsOwen Edwards Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well in my Dark Sun PbP [strike]a Wife of Nibenay sent to infiltrate Tyrian ziggurat construction[/strike] everyone fluffed [strike]two defiling[/strike] almost all their rolls in [strike]front of High Templar Tithian,who is now blackmailing her into assisting his plots[/strike] combat ...[strike]she's [/strike] they're not dead yet, but [strike]he is definitely watching her[/strike] but they will be. Oh yes. They will be.

    I get the sense my players are developing a dislike for me.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    More like any dice that have been near your game.

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    TurksonTurkson Near the mountains of ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Man, an all goliath party could be awesome. Way more awesome than all dwarf, which would be unspeakably lame.

    Words can not describe how wrong you are. Dwarfs are awesome.

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