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  • SarksusSarksus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    When is Microsoft going to up the bandwidth afforded to voice communication like they said they were. The quality is utter shit, like I'm talking to somebody over a dial-up connection on my computer from 1995.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    The thing you seem to miss, Will, is that genetics are the last line of explanation for behavior in humans, and it isn't just because we don't like the idea.

    Testing the genetic basis of a behavior is so phenomenally diffusion that it might as well be impossible right now.

    Most of the people who work in these sciences have long accepted that, so when someone comes in and wants to test the genetic difference in performance between two groups, eyebrows get raised.

    Arch on
  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD along with you if I get drunk well I know I'm gonna be gonna be the man whoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Fartacus wrote: »
    Will I don't think there's really that much disagreement going on, as I think Feral was specifically referring to one instance where the evidence so thin and the concept so implausible that asking the question really is pretty racist in that specific instance.

    I wasn't even talking about asking the question "is there a genetic correlation between skin color and general intelligence?" I was talking about making the assertion that differences in IQ test scores is evidence of genetic inferiority.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    I guess my point is that, as someone who is intensely concerned with evolution, and whose driving question is "how did this trait arise?", I can't seem to come up with any sort of logical reason that, say, a woman, or an asian would do better or worse at something like math without invoking some sort of outside influence that precludes a genetic explanation.

    in fairness, sickle cell anemia was noted to be common in people of north-african descent long before the causal vector was established.

    it strikes me that you're holding a much higher bar for considerations of genetic differences than you are socio-economic or cultural causes, which you generally heartily endorse with naught but a handwave.

    It's probably because his job is to scrutinize biological factors very strictly while social factors are somebody else's field entirely

    Elldren on
    fuck gendered marketing
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    The thing you seem to miss, Will, is that genetics are the last line of explanation for behavior in humans, and it isn't just because we don't like the idea.

    Testing the genetic basis of a behavior is so phenomenally diffusion that it might as well be impossible right now.

    Most of the people who work in these sciences have long accepted that, so when someone comes in and wants to test the genetic difference in performance between two groups, eyebrows get raised.

    love your av/title/location by the way

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    The thing you seem to miss, Will, is that genetics are the last line of explanation for behavior in humans, and it isn't just because we don't like the idea.

    Testing the genetic basis of a behavior is so phenomenally diffusion that it might as well be impossible right now.

    Most of the people who work in these sciences have long accepted that, so when someone comes in and wants to test the genetic difference in performance between two groups, eyebrows get raised.

    Total bullshit, every fat person I know claims its genetic. Ex proctor mcdonaldsstratum.

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • SarksusSarksus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Gim wrote: »
    I liked the part where all the ewoks die

    Oh my.

    This is amazing.

    Sarksus on
  • FartacusFartacus __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2010
    Ludious wrote: »
    Will just wants to prove that antisocial geeks are genetically inferior

    on board with this tbh

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    man come on everyone knows that white people are better

    oh science you so wacky

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    I guess my point is that, as someone who is intensely concerned with evolution, and whose driving question is "how did this trait arise?", I can't seem to come up with any sort of logical reason that, say, a woman, or an asian would do better or worse at something like math without invoking some sort of outside influence that precludes a genetic explanation.

    in fairness, sickle cell anemia was noted to be common in people of north-african descent long before the causal vector was established.

    it strikes me that you're holding a much higher bar for considerations of genetic differences than you are socio-economic or cultural causes, which you generally heartily endorse with naught but a handwave.

    Yes I am! Because it is phenomenally difficult to accurately pin these behaviors to genetics alone. And if you DO pin it to genetics, then you have to explain WHY IT IS GENETICALLY BASED!

    With sickle cell this is easy! Sickle cell confers a selective advantage in the african population!

    But how do you explain it if you found that african americans have genetically-linked poor academic performance?

    Arch on
  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited September 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    consideration of a possibility doesn't connote to me any more a burden to explain than the assertions of test bias or whatever else, and i don't really think it necessarily imputes racism.

    So lets say you consider the possibility, and as daxon said, you noticed that african americans perform worse on tests of mathematical aptitude than non african americans. Your first impulse is to test the genetics and not the social factors that placed them there?

    Seems a bit like you aren't really paying a lot of attention.

    Maybe racist isn't the word, but it is definitely a misappropriation of the situation.

    But then you are going to say "but now you are ignoring genetics blah blah"

    No. The point is that you have to eliminate all other factors before you can ascribe behavior strictly to genetics, and in the context of all the things we describe, that is just not possible.

    why are you assuming that i would discount the socio-economic or other factors? i never even implied that. i'm simply arguing that from an agnostic standpoint, genetics should be regarded as a causal explanantion co-equal in plausibility to social factors, nutrition, test bias, or whatever else. that discounting the possibility out of hand is not good science.

    and that consideration of genetics as a causal possibility is not racist in and of itself.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Man, I just finished a math class and you guys are still talking about something!

    They're certainly talking about something alright.

    What is with this place and talking about something.

    I know right.

    I tend to maintain a detached disinterest in things.

    japan on
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited September 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    When is Microsoft going to up the bandwidth afforded to voice communication like they said they were. The quality is utter shit, like I'm talking to somebody over a dial-up connection on my computer from 1995.

    XBL voice sounds just like Roger Wilco from ten years ago.

    But actually, they are upping it. New voice codec is being pushed with the fall dashboard update.

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  • Psycho Internet HawkPsycho Internet Hawk Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Fartacus wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Will just wants to prove that antisocial geeks are genetically inferior

    on board with this tbh

    Lies! ASPIES ARE THE FUTUREPEOPLE

    (I am not really autistic btw)

    (just kinda retarded)

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    When is Microsoft going to up the bandwidth afforded to voice communication like they said they were. The quality is utter shit, like I'm talking to somebody over a dial-up connection on my computer from 1995.

    XBL voice sounds just like Roger Wilco from ten years ago.

    But actually, they are upping it. New voice codec is being pushed with the fall dashboard update.

    If you like Microsoft so much why don't you marry them?

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    Http:// pleasepaypreacher.net
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    god, [chat], always with the talking!

    about things!

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  • GimGim a quietly erotic life Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Gim wrote: »
    I liked the part where all the ewoks die

    Oh my.

    This is amazing.

    It reminds me of a conversation I had on another board about the end of 2012. Sure, those people are still alive, but there is no chance humanity will last after all that drastic flooding. They all have looks of hope, yet they'll be eating each other inside of a decade.

    Gim on
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited September 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    When is Microsoft going to up the bandwidth afforded to voice communication like they said they were. The quality is utter shit, like I'm talking to somebody over a dial-up connection on my computer from 1995.

    XBL voice sounds just like Roger Wilco from ten years ago.

    But actually, they are upping it. New voice codec is being pushed with the fall dashboard update.

    If you like Microsoft so much why don't you marry them?

    maybe I will

    Jacobkosh on
  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Arch explain why ducks have barbed orange penises but geese don't.

    GENETICS

    Ludious on
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    When is Microsoft going to up the bandwidth afforded to voice communication like they said they were. The quality is utter shit, like I'm talking to somebody over a dial-up connection on my computer from 1995.

    XBL voice sounds just like Roger Wilco from ten years ago.

    But actually, they are upping it. New voice codec is being pushed with the fall dashboard update.

    If you like Microsoft so much why don't you marry them?

    maybe I will

    Oh good, can you get me a game discount and like a live discount?

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    Http:// pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Psycho Internet HawkPsycho Internet Hawk Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    why are you assuming that i would discount the socio-economic or other factors? i never even implied that. i'm simply arguing that from an agnostic standpoint, genetics should be regarded as a co-equal causal explanantion as social factors, nutrition, test bias, or whatever else.

    and that consideration of genetics as a causal possibility is not racist in and of itself.

    Well if there are other factors at work, genetics is sort of a moot point, until it's the future and everyone is genetically perfect anyway.

    Psycho Internet Hawk on
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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    When is Microsoft going to up the bandwidth afforded to voice communication like they said they were. The quality is utter shit, like I'm talking to somebody over a dial-up connection on my computer from 1995.

    XBL voice sounds just like Roger Wilco from ten years ago.

    But actually, they are upping it. New voice codec is being pushed with the fall dashboard update.

    If you like Microsoft so much why don't you marry them?

    Because the courts in the US haven't let corporate personhood get that far yet.

    japan on
  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Ludious wrote: »
    Arch explain why ducks have barbed orange penises but geese don't.

    GENETICS

    You don't know anything about water fowl sexual organs. You actually know less about water fowl sexual organs then you do east german ballet dancers, and I'll be honest I didn't think that was possible.

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    Http:// pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited September 2010
    Ludious wrote: »
    Will just wants to prove that antisocial geeks are genetically inferior

    i believe that there are markers for endocrine disorders and bad skin

    the autism-spectrum is all due to too much vaccinations.

    Irond Will on
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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    japan wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    When is Microsoft going to up the bandwidth afforded to voice communication like they said they were. The quality is utter shit, like I'm talking to somebody over a dial-up connection on my computer from 1995.

    XBL voice sounds just like Roger Wilco from ten years ago.

    But actually, they are upping it. New voice codec is being pushed with the fall dashboard update.

    If you like Microsoft so much why don't you marry them?

    Because the courts in the US haven't let corporate personhood get that far yet.

    God knows with as often as I've gotten fucked by a corporation the least they could do is buy the cow.

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    Http:// pleasepaypreacher.net
  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Will: Genetics are not necessarily co-equal. Occam's razor doesn't cut that way

    Elldren on
    fuck gendered marketing
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Will just wants to prove that antisocial geeks are genetically inferior

    i believe that there are markers for endocrine disorders and bad skin

    the autism-spectrum is all due to too much vaccinations.

    *Slow Clap*

    Bravo.

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    Http:// pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Psycho Internet HawkPsycho Internet Hawk Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Will just wants to prove that antisocial geeks are genetically inferior

    i believe that there are markers for endocrine disorders and bad skin

    the autism-spectrum is all due to too much vaccinations.

    It's like a rainbow of awkwardness.

    Psycho Internet Hawk on
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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Will just wants to prove that antisocial geeks are genetically inferior

    i believe that there are markers for endocrine disorders and bad skin

    the autism-spectrum is all due to too much vaccinations.

    *Slow Clap*

    is there any other clap from you?

    Ludious on
  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Okay, so no party chat for xbox live silver members.

    Anyone got a free trial card or one month card lying around they're not using?

    I'll give you internet sex*
    *internet sex is not actually sex of any kind whatsoever, just [chat]

    amateurhour on

    Arch wrote: »

    I never expected this burn from captain bushmeat
  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    This Jen Eddix chick sounds like a real jerk.

    emnmnme on
  • ChanusChanus Sugoi! ^_____^Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Empire was the best.

    There is no contest.

    Empire is clearly the worst.

    Medieval was the best.

    Until Shogun II, of course.

    Chanus on
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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Inquisitor wrote: »

    awesome

    Winky needs to do this

    Elldren on
    fuck gendered marketing
  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited September 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Fartacus wrote: »
    Will I don't think there's really that much disagreement going on, as I think Feral was specifically referring to one instance where the evidence so thin and the concept so implausible that asking the question really is pretty racist in that specific instance.

    I wasn't even talking about asking the question "is there a genetic correlation between skin color and general intelligence?" I was talking about making the assertion that differences in IQ test scores is evidence of genetic inferiority.

    i had previously missed where you used the term "genetic inferiority" in your post. and yeah, trying to use some sort of basis to establish non-categorical superiority and inferiority would be racist pretty much by definition.

    i do think the term gets stretched kind of far in many contexts, though.

    Irond Will on
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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    When is Microsoft going to up the bandwidth afforded to voice communication like they said they were. The quality is utter shit, like I'm talking to somebody over a dial-up connection on my computer from 1995.

    XBL voice sounds just like Roger Wilco from ten years ago.

    But actually, they are upping it. New voice codec is being pushed with the fall dashboard update.

    If you like Microsoft so much why don't you marry them?

    Because the courts in the US haven't let corporate personhood get that far yet.

    God knows with as often as I've gotten fucked by a corporation the least they could do is buy the cow.

    As weird as it sounds I can actually see the US permitting marriage between a person and a corporation with less fuss than gay marriage. They'd probably get polygamy in there too lest it be deemed unfair to all the people that would probably try to marry Nike given half a chance.

    japan on
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Okay, so no party chat for xbox live silver members.

    Anyone got a free trial card or one month card lying around they're not using?

    I'll give you internet sex*
    *internet sex is not actually sex of any kind whatsoever, just [chat]

    I do, actually

    dunno if they still work or anything

    I can check

    Abdhyius on
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  • LaOsLaOs Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Okay, so no party chat for xbox live silver members.

    Anyone got a free trial card or one month card lying around they're not using?

    I'll give you internet sex*
    *internet sex is not actually sex of any kind whatsoever, just [chat]

    Just have her create a new Xbox Live ID? You get a free month of Live Gold with a new ID now, if I remember the situation right.

    LaOs on
  • FartacusFartacus __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2010
    Listen all I know is that I can't wait until we get rid of white people

    Remember not to have white children, everybody

    Fartacus on
  • GimGim a quietly erotic life Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Wait a second, LoL is free? Why was I not informed?

    Gim on
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