Maybe I am angry, I dunno... I just have no sympathy.
A friend just killed himself with pills and Jameson two weeks ago... just completely out of the blue.
Fuck.
It hurts, because as a friend you think "Well fuck I was there why didn't you call me you son of a bitch!" And then you turn it on yourself as you wonder what you could have done differently or what sign you missed. And then the anger just lingers longer then the remorse. I'd like to tell you it gets better, but honestly it never does, part of the reason I attack exercise with such fury is to work out the hate.
It can, but you have to find your own peace with it.
Guess I haven't gotten there yet, try not to think about it honestly. It's a sore subject like voting for John Kerry or jerking off to grace jones.
I had to spend a long time thinking about it. Took a long time to get it into focus. It's not one of those things that heal by ignoring it.
I had a friend about five years ago basically do a suicide-by-cop... but he was seriously disturbed and way off the deep end, babbling about shadow governments and stuff... I thought he had gone in for treatment and then two months later, he's dead outside of Ft. Eustis. That was tragic, but I could wrap my head around it.
This time, it's just a guy who up and Joplined himself for no apparent reason. How the fuck do you reconcile that?
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Maybe I am angry, I dunno... I just have no sympathy.
A friend just killed himself with pills and Jameson two weeks ago... just completely out of the blue.
Fuck.
It hurts, because as a friend you think "Well fuck I was there why didn't you call me you son of a bitch!" And then you turn it on yourself as you wonder what you could have done differently or what sign you missed. And then the anger just lingers longer then the remorse. I'd like to tell you it gets better, but honestly it never does, part of the reason I attack exercise with such fury is to work out the hate.
Seriously, I just can't get beyond the "what the fuck?" part.
If you need someone to talk to chanus, I'm sure someone stable will offer some kind of support.
Maybe I am angry, I dunno... I just have no sympathy.
A friend just killed himself with pills and Jameson two weeks ago... just completely out of the blue.
Fuck.
It hurts, because as a friend you think "Well fuck I was there why didn't you call me you son of a bitch!" And then you turn it on yourself as you wonder what you could have done differently or what sign you missed. And then the anger just lingers longer then the remorse. I'd like to tell you it gets better, but honestly it never does, part of the reason I attack exercise with such fury is to work out the hate.
Seriously, I just can't get beyond the "what the fuck?" part.
If you need someone to talk to chanus, I'm sure someone stable will offer some kind of support.
I honestly didn't even think I'd bring it up.
Well in that case I'm sorry for having that come up, I know personally I don't like to talk about certain things in chat, because there are some real jackals.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
hey while we have manically depressed and sometimes suicidal people who use this thread maybe we shouldn't extol the great things about suicide
i mean, j/s
No one is extolling the great things about suicide. In fact, everyone's going on about why and how they wouldn't do it, and how much it hurt when a friend did do it.
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My mom has threatened suicide on me via telephone several times. Going so far as to screeching her tires and making it sound like she drove into oncoming traffic (the road was empty and she just braked hard and turned the wheel).
Suicide makes me angry and as irrational as you say that the act of suicide is, people's reactions to that act are just as valid (irrationally)
I had a friend about five years ago basically do a suicide-by-cop... but he was seriously disturbed and way off the deep end, babbling about shadow governments and stuff... I thought he had gone in for treatment and then two months later, he's dead outside of Ft. Eustis. That was tragic, but I could wrap my head around it.
This time, it's just a guy who up and Joplined himself for no apparent reason. How the fuck do you reconcile that?
What looks like no apparent reason to you doesn't mean it was without reason for him.
hey while we have manically depressed and sometimes suicidal people who use this thread maybe we shouldn't extol the great things about suicide
i mean, j/s
No one is extolling the great things about suicide. In fact, everyone's going on about why and how they wouldn't do it, and how much it hurt when a friend did do it.
My mom has threatened suicide on me via telephone several times. Going so far as to screeching her tires and making it sound like she drove into oncoming traffic (the road was empty and she just braked hard and turned the wheel).
Suicide makes me angry and as irrational as you say that the act of suicide is, people's reactions to that act are just as valid (irrationally)
Jesus, man
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I had a friend about five years ago basically do a suicide-by-cop... but he was seriously disturbed and way off the deep end, babbling about shadow governments and stuff... I thought he had gone in for treatment and then two months later, he's dead outside of Ft. Eustis. That was tragic, but I could wrap my head around it.
This time, it's just a guy who up and Joplined himself for no apparent reason. How the fuck do you reconcile that?
What looks like no apparent reason to you doesn't mean it was without reason for him.
Yeah, I know. And I know it's something I missed, or just never asked, or he just kept to himself for whatever reason.
hey while we have manically depressed and sometimes suicidal people who use this thread maybe we shouldn't extol the great things about suicide
i mean, j/s
No one is extolling the great things about suicide. In fact, everyone's going on about why and how they wouldn't do it, and how much it hurt when a friend did do it.
uh not everyone
Ok everyone not already mentally off.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
hey while we have manically depressed and sometimes suicidal people who use this thread maybe we shouldn't extol the great things about suicide
i mean, j/s
No one is extolling the great things about suicide. In fact, everyone's going on about why and how they wouldn't do it, and how much it hurt when a friend did do it.
now, I will say, that if you commit suicide in an especially inconsiderate manner that you are well, an inconsiderate asshole
like this case I was told about back in driver's ed about a head-on collision beetween a regular car and a trailer
there were no brake trails at all from the car, and the driver had been a girl with problems
but man
that is a supremely shitty thing to do
Yeah, a woman in Chicago did this, killed 3 people but was barely injured herself. She got 8 years in prison because they found her "mentally ill", it was reduced to just over 3, she actually served about 10 months since she'd been in jail for about 2 years during the trial, and was released.
And to this day my Mom still doesn't get why our relationship is strained and why she isn't allowed in my house
or why sorry isn't enough
Yeah, I have an ex like that.
She doesn't understand why I don't want contact with her. Maybe it has something to do with the three or four times I had to call the cops to haul her out of my apartment because she refused to put down the knife.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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My mom has threatened suicide on me via telephone several times. Going so far as to screeching her tires and making it sound like she drove into oncoming traffic (the road was empty and she just braked hard and turned the wheel).
Suicide makes me angry and as irrational as you say that the act of suicide is, people's reactions to that act are just as valid (irrationally)
I agree. I've had the "See ya, I'm going to kill myself now" thing pulled on me by more than one person and I don't really feel any higher obligation to not get fucking livid about it.
it would definitely be a out-of-the-blue situation for most people
maybe someone would realize that there were signs that I'm not as happy as I seem
I can't stand the thought of someone beating themselves up over not noticing before things that I hide so well
I would never commit suicide for that reason
because there is no way to say "it's not your fault" and make people believe it
and even if there were, what would that help?
People would care if I was dead.
Sometimes, when I'm really down, I have to repeat that really hard
but I've never really disbelieved that people care about me a great deal
I just have trouble remembering it sometimes
See this is why we have serious problems with the cultural acceptance of mental health issues, because as far as I know it comes up time and time again that suicidal people convince themselves it wouldn't greatly distress or inconvenience anyone if they were dead.
My mom has threatened suicide on me via telephone several times. Going so far as to screeching her tires and making it sound like she drove into oncoming traffic (the road was empty and she just braked hard and turned the wheel).
Suicide makes me angry and as irrational as you say that the act of suicide is, people's reactions to that act are just as valid (irrationally)
I agree. I've had the "See ya, I'm going to kill myself now" thing pulled on me by more than one person and I don't really feel any higher obligation to not get fucking livid about it.
Oh you absolutely should get livid about that. that is a fucking horrible thing to do.
I've never had that happen
or, well, never believably anyway
but jesus i'm having trouble imagining someone doing something worse to me
now, I will say, that if you commit suicide in an especially inconsiderate manner that you are well, an inconsiderate asshole
like this case I was told about back in driver's ed about a head-on collision beetween a regular car and a trailer
there were no brake trails at all from the car, and the driver had been a girl with problems
but man
that is a supremely shitty thing to do
Yeah, a woman in Chicago did this, killed 3 people but was barely injured herself. She got 8 years in prison because they found her "mentally ill", it was reduced to just over 3, she actually served about 10 months since she'd been in jail for about 2 years during the trial, and was released.
There's a worse case like this, where the perpetrator is suing the sole suriving member of the family she killed trying to claim it was the pregnant mother of one child who was in the car and died in the accident who swerved into her.
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
now, I will say, that if you commit suicide in an especially inconsiderate manner that you are well, an inconsiderate asshole
like this case I was told about back in driver's ed about a head-on collision beetween a regular car and a trailer
there were no brake trails at all from the car, and the driver had been a girl with problems
but man
that is a supremely shitty thing to do
Yeah, a woman in Chicago did this, killed 3 people but was barely injured herself. She got 8 years in prison because they found her "mentally ill", it was reduced to just over 3, she actually served about 10 months since she'd been in jail for about 2 years during the trial, and was released.
There's a worse case like this, where the perpetrator is suing the sole suriving member of the family she killed trying to claim it was the pregnant mother of one child who was in the car and died in the accident who swerved into her.
okay these guys are way, way worse
the truck driver was totally unharmed but you know
kind of upset that a girl just killed himself against his truck
now, I will say, that if you commit suicide in an especially inconsiderate manner that you are well, an inconsiderate asshole
like this case I was told about back in driver's ed about a head-on collision beetween a regular car and a trailer
there were no brake trails at all from the car, and the driver had been a girl with problems
but man
that is a supremely shitty thing to do
Yeah, a woman in Chicago did this, killed 3 people but was barely injured herself. She got 8 years in prison because they found her "mentally ill", it was reduced to just over 3, she actually served about 10 months since she'd been in jail for about 2 years during the trial, and was released.
There's a worse case like this, where the perpetrator is suing the sole suriving member of the family she killed trying to claim it was the pregnant mother of one child who was in the car and died in the accident who swerved into her.
Saw that too, she's suing the father along with the company that built the bridge she caused the accident under. Of course, the text message she sent her boyfriend seconds before the crash makes her case pretty much unwinnable.
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A little shit covered kitten that I will be so disgusted with, there will be no possible alternative other than a painful death.
I don't think there's anything really crazy about being kind of morbid
I'll get there eventually, I guess I'm just trying to look past it right now, still too fresh, still too hurtful.
pleasepaypreacher.net
I had a friend about five years ago basically do a suicide-by-cop... but he was seriously disturbed and way off the deep end, babbling about shadow governments and stuff... I thought he had gone in for treatment and then two months later, he's dead outside of Ft. Eustis. That was tragic, but I could wrap my head around it.
This time, it's just a guy who up and Joplined himself for no apparent reason. How the fuck do you reconcile that?
glad I came back to chat to see this
Seriously, there's some RUDE titties on reddit.
Thank god I have an iphone when I need my titty fix at work
I honestly didn't even think I'd bring it up.
Is this really a thing people do? I've never understood they their could possibly be a market for on-the-go pornography.
It just cheapens the whole thing.
i mean, j/s
Well in that case I'm sorry for having that come up, I know personally I don't like to talk about certain things in chat, because there are some real jackals.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Well, it's not quite a red hot, and it's not quite a pit, but man... [laughs]
So to answer your question I don't know.
No one is extolling the great things about suicide. In fact, everyone's going on about why and how they wouldn't do it, and how much it hurt when a friend did do it.
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Suicide makes me angry and as irrational as you say that the act of suicide is, people's reactions to that act are just as valid (irrationally)
Took me over a decade to come to grips with it.
What looks like no apparent reason to you doesn't mean it was without reason for him.
I just recall after you discovered that content for days that was like all you'd talk about.
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uh not everyone
Jesus, man
Yeah, I know. And I know it's something I missed, or just never asked, or he just kept to himself for whatever reason.
It's just like... too late now.
Ok everyone not already mentally off.
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it mostly seems like the same platitudes that always pop up when the subject is broached
or why sorry isn't enough
...it has begun
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I don't think Abby is being serious.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-sliwinski-24-sep24,0,7641351.story
it would definitely be a out-of-the-blue situation for most people
maybe someone would realize that there were signs that I'm not as happy as I seem
I can't stand the thought of someone beating themselves up over not noticing before things that I hide so well
I would never commit suicide for that reason
because there is no way to say "it's not your fault" and make people believe it
and even if there were, what would that help?
People would care if I was dead.
Sometimes, when I'm really down, I have to repeat that really hard
but I've never really disbelieved that people care about me a great deal
I just have trouble remembering it sometimes
:whistle:
At least you can admit that, I mean it was kind of to the point where I wondered if we might have to have a pornavention.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Yeah, I have an ex like that.
She doesn't understand why I don't want contact with her. Maybe it has something to do with the three or four times I had to call the cops to haul her out of my apartment because she refused to put down the knife.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Imagefap is a pretty fantastic thing.
I agree. I've had the "See ya, I'm going to kill myself now" thing pulled on me by more than one person and I don't really feel any higher obligation to not get fucking livid about it.
With nuclear weapons
averting planetwide disaster in the process
See this is why we have serious problems with the cultural acceptance of mental health issues, because as far as I know it comes up time and time again that suicidal people convince themselves it wouldn't greatly distress or inconvenience anyone if they were dead.
Oh you absolutely should get livid about that. that is a fucking horrible thing to do.
I've never had that happen
or, well, never believably anyway
but jesus i'm having trouble imagining someone doing something worse to me
There's a worse case like this, where the perpetrator is suing the sole suriving member of the family she killed trying to claim it was the pregnant mother of one child who was in the car and died in the accident who swerved into her.
pleasepaypreacher.net
okay these guys are way, way worse
the truck driver was totally unharmed but you know
kind of upset that a girl just killed himself against his truck
if I remember correctly, he doesn't drive anymore