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[Gay Rights] Don't Ask, Don't Tell Ruled Unconstitutional!

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    BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Same guy, from Wikipedia.
    Mr. Delgaudio recently issued a fundraising letter in which he reported the following:

    One stormy night I drove to a mailshop hidden deep in a nearly deserted stand of warehouses. I'd heard something was up and wanted to see for myself. As I rounded the final turn my eyes nearly popped. Tractor-trailers pulled up to loading docks, cars and vans everywhere and long-haired, earring-pierced men scurrying around running forklifts, inserters and huge printing presses. Trembling with worry I went inside. It was worse than I ever imagined. Row after row of boxes bulging with pro-homosexual petitions lined the walls, stacked to the ceiling. My mind reeled as I realized hundreds, maybe thousands, more boxes were already loaded on the tractor-trailers. And still more petitions were flying off the press. Suddenly a dark-haired man screeched, "Delgaudio what are you doing here?" Dozens of men began moving toward me. I'd been recognized. As I retreated to my car, the man chortled, "This time Delgaudio we can't lose." Driving away, my eyes filled with tears as I realized he might be right. This time the Radical Homosexuals could win

    How gay.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Same guy, from Wikipedia.
    Mr. Delgaudio recently issued a fundraising letter in which he reported the following:

    One stormy night I drove to a mailshop hidden deep in a nearly deserted stand of warehouses. I'd heard something was up and wanted to see for myself. As I rounded the final turn my eyes nearly popped. Tractor-trailers pulled up to loading docks, cars and vans everywhere and long-haired, earring-pierced men scurrying around running forklifts, inserters and huge printing presses. Trembling with worry I went inside. It was worse than I ever imagined. Row after row of boxes bulging with pro-homosexual petitions lined the walls, stacked to the ceiling. My mind reeled as I realized hundreds, maybe thousands, more boxes were already loaded on the tractor-trailers. And still more petitions were flying off the press. Suddenly a dark-haired man screeched, "Delgaudio what are you doing here?" Dozens of men began moving toward me. I'd been recognized. As I retreated to my car, the man chortled, "This time Delgaudio we can't lose." Driving away, my eyes filled with tears as I realized he might be right. This time the Radical Homosexuals could win
    :lol:

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Same guy, from Wikipedia.
    Mr. Delgaudio recently issued a fundraising letter in which he reported the following:

    One stormy night I drove to a mailshop hidden deep in a nearly deserted stand of warehouses. I'd heard something was up and wanted to see for myself. As I rounded the final turn my eyes nearly popped. Tractor-trailers pulled up to loading docks, cars and vans everywhere and long-haired, earring-pierced men scurrying around running forklifts, inserters and huge printing presses. Trembling with worry I went inside. It was worse than I ever imagined. Row after row of boxes bulging with pro-homosexual petitions lined the walls, stacked to the ceiling. My mind reeled as I realized hundreds, maybe thousands, more boxes were already loaded on the tractor-trailers. And still more petitions were flying off the press. Suddenly a dark-haired man screeched, "Delgaudio what are you doing here?" Dozens of men began moving toward me. I'd been recognized. As I retreated to my car, the man chortled, "This time Delgaudio we can't lose." Driving away, my eyes filled with tears as I realized he might be right. This time the Radical Homosexuals could win

    How gay.

    What? He found the warehouse?

    DISPATCH THE GAYGENTS!

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm picturing the warehouse from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and it makes the whole thing all the better.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I'm picturing the warehouse from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and it makes the whole thing all the better.

    The one I had was more like the one from Law Abiding Citizen.

    He does make the thing sound somehow Lovecraftian doesn't he though? Encountering the unnameable monster deep in the dark of a rainy night.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    It always amazes me when I remember that these people literally think there are zero gay people in the armed forces.

    I'm more concerned that they seem to think only gay people have HIV.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Quid wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    It always amazes me when I remember that these people literally think there are zero gay people in the armed forces.

    I'm more concerned that they seem to think only gay people have HIV.

    As I recall lesbians actually have the lowest HIV rate among all sexually active groups, though that is largely a result of *erm* biology.

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Quid wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    It always amazes me when I remember that these people literally think there are zero gay people in the armed forces.

    I'm more concerned that they seem to think only gay people have HIV.

    Straight people can get it too.

    They just have to rub their wounds on a gay person.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Quid wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    It always amazes me when I remember that these people literally think there are zero gay people in the armed forces.

    I'm more concerned that they seem to think only gay people have HIV.
    Well that part isn't surprising.

    I mean, it's stupid and depressingly ignorant, but not surprising.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    MrMister wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    It always amazes me when I remember that these people literally think there are zero gay people in the armed forces.

    I'm more concerned that they seem to think only gay people have HIV.

    Straight people can get it too.

    They just have to rub their wounds on a gay person.

    And then you transform into a gay during a full moon.

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Good lord, I didn't think it was possible to see someone so screamingly closeted.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Today in fucking lunatics:
    "Last night, I had a dream. It was 2011 and Republicans were celebrating a sweep of the House and near takeover of the Senate. But that dream became a nightmare. A wounded soldier sat in a veteran’s hospital after returning from Afghanistan. Noticeably shaken, his doctor walked in and choked out the worst news of this young soldier’s life: He’d been infected with HIV. You see, the doctor informed him that his wounds came in contact with those of a practicing homosexual, now allowed to serve in our military. 'How could this happen?' the soldier expressed shock and disappointment right before I awoke.

    "Today I was reminded of several disturbing news stories. Left and right I see conservatives -- even some good conservatives -- who no longer seem to care. And that’s when it hit me. In my nightmare, conservative Americans had been too busy focusing on jobs and the economy before the November elections. Distracted, they failed to maintain a committed resistance to the Homosexual Agenda."

    What the fucking fuck.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Gays are basically walking HIV-factories.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I'm picturing the warehouse from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and it makes the whole thing all the better.

    14 whole aisles of just Cher memorabilia.

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I'm picturing the warehouse from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and it makes the whole thing all the better.

    14 whole aisles of just Cher memorabilia.

    And fifteen secluded bathrooms with doors that lock.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    MrMister wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I'm picturing the warehouse from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and it makes the whole thing all the better.

    14 whole aisles of just Cher memorabilia.

    And fifteen secluded bathrooms with doors that lock.

    And that disco ball from Warehouse 13.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    What the fucking fuck.

    It's very easy to understand the passion behind this guy's prejudices towards gays. To do this, you must draw on your own prejudices towards ped-*GACK*
    ...
    ...Hurg

    *falls over dead*

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    mythagomythago Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    As I recall lesbians actually have the lowest HIV rate among all sexually active groups, though that is largely a result of *erm* biology.

    And when you point it out they go "durrrrrrrr", because remember you're talking to people who a) don't really think of women as, like, people, and b) there's no such thing as a lesbian because it's not actually sex and so doesn't count and durrrrrr.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    mythago wrote: »
    As I recall lesbians actually have the lowest HIV rate among all sexually active groups, though that is largely a result of *erm* biology.

    And when you point it out they go "durrrrrrrr", because remember you're talking to people who a) don't really think of women as, like, people, and b) there's no such thing as a lesbian because it's not actually sex and so doesn't count and durrrrrr.

    It may be shameful and fairly sexist, but I'll never understand why the face for gay equality isn't a hot lesbian couple.

    ...with one of them being Asian and having long fingernails.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    moniker wrote: »
    It may be shameful and fairly sexist, but I'll never understand why the face for gay equality isn't a hot lesbian couple.
    Question asked, question answered.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    It may be shameful and fairly sexist, but I'll never understand why the face for gay equality isn't a hot lesbian couple.
    Question asked, question answered.

    Because politics, lobbying, and public outreach is so bereft of shameful gimmickry.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Yeah, you're right.

    It's actually a great idea.

    Go for it. :P

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    Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    lesbians are more acceptable than gays only in certain situations. Keep in mind that two hot chicks making out aren't actually lesbians, they're just two hot chicks making out.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I'm sure that Katy Perry song has made great strides for gay equality.

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    mythagomythago Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    moniker wrote: »
    It may be shameful and fairly sexist, but I'll never understand why the face for gay equality isn't a hot lesbian couple.

    1. "They're not REALLY lesbians. They just need a man around to set them straight, durrrr."

    2. "Okay, you ladies can get married, but not those gross homoguys."

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    Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    like, do lesbians fare any better than gay men when they come out to their peers or parents?

    somehow I doubt it.

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    like, do lesbians fare any better than gay men when they come out to their peers or parents?

    somehow I doubt it.

    no

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    lesbians are more acceptable than gays only in certain situations. Keep in mind that two hot chicks making out aren't actually lesbians, they're just two hot chicks making out.

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    zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I still hold that Pavlovian conditioning applies to humans. And that people make decisions emotionally and not rationally.


    If every pro-gay-marriage commercial had two super hot lesbians making out, even the staunchest opponents would start to appreciate gay marriage. Instead of, "Ugh, fags," it would become "gay marriage is wrong but it ain't so bad. Hell I'mma go buy the DVD of gay marriage."


    It's not a rational argument. You just make them feel good every time they see your political advertising, and count on it during voting time. It's fundamentally the same thing all political candidates do.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Umm, by "the staunchest opponents" do you actually mean "some heterosexual men"? Because those are the only ones I can see your theory having a possible effect on.

    Besides, if your Pavlovian method works and is legitimate, why limit its application to gay rights? Let's have every political ad have two hot chicks making out so the public gets a positive association with that candidate. Put them in car commercials, PSAs, have replace Biden and Pelosi with a couple of pornstars going at it behind Obama during the State of the Union. I'm sure there won't be any negative repercussions.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Umm, by "the staunchest opponents" do you actually mean "some heterosexual men"? Because those are the only ones I can see your theory having a possible effect on.
    Come on, now. If the fight for gay rights has taught us anything, it's that heterosexual men are the only ones that matter!

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Umm, by "the staunchest opponents" do you actually mean "some heterosexual men"? Because those are the only ones I can see your theory having a possible effect on.
    Come on, now. If the fight for gay rights has taught us anything, it's that heterosexual men are the only ones that matter!

    From my memory of polling, they're the ones that need the most convincing. Women support same sex marriage on the whole between ~5-10% more than men do. You don't win converts by preaching to the choir.

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    MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    moniker wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Umm, by "the staunchest opponents" do you actually mean "some heterosexual men"? Because those are the only ones I can see your theory having a possible effect on.
    Come on, now. If the fight for gay rights has taught us anything, it's that heterosexual men are the only ones that matter!

    From my memory of polling, they're the ones that need the most convincing. Women support same sex marriage on the whole between ~5-10% more than men do. You don't win converts by preaching to the choir.

    Actually, men are now more supportive of gay rights than women now, by a small margin.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/135764/americans-acceptance-gay-relations-crosses-threshold.aspx

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melkster wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Umm, by "the staunchest opponents" do you actually mean "some heterosexual men"? Because those are the only ones I can see your theory having a possible effect on.
    Come on, now. If the fight for gay rights has taught us anything, it's that heterosexual men are the only ones that matter!

    From my memory of polling, they're the ones that need the most convincing. Women support same sex marriage on the whole between ~5-10% more than men do. You don't win converts by preaching to the choir.

    Actually, men are now more supportive of gay rights than women now, by a small margin.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/135764/americans-acceptance-gay-relations-crosses-threshold.aspx

    That's a very welcome turn of events. +7 points in a single year is damned impressive.

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    MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    moniker wrote: »
    Melkster wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Umm, by "the staunchest opponents" do you actually mean "some heterosexual men"? Because those are the only ones I can see your theory having a possible effect on.
    Come on, now. If the fight for gay rights has taught us anything, it's that heterosexual men are the only ones that matter!

    From my memory of polling, they're the ones that need the most convincing. Women support same sex marriage on the whole between ~5-10% more than men do. You don't win converts by preaching to the choir.

    Actually, men are now more supportive of gay rights than women now, by a small margin.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/135764/americans-acceptance-gay-relations-crosses-threshold.aspx

    That's a very welcome turn of events. +7 points in a single year is damned impressive.

    =)

    I'm not even sure what it is, really. I guess a critical mass of gay people came out and all their buddies realized that their homoerotic jesting is even better when one of them is actually gay.

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    How about instead of the extreme of two hot chicks making out, have a thirty-second ad split evenly between two attractive guys doing something like a family dinner and two good-looking women having a similar homey thing? Appeal to both sexes, and show that gay people like the same things straights do.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    like the same things straights do.

    Well that and lady gaga

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    Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melkster wrote: »
    I guess a critical mass of gay people came out and all their buddies realized that their homoerotic jesting is even better when one of them is actually gay.

    It makes playing gay chicken with them really hard though.

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    MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melkster wrote: »
    I guess a critical mass of gay people came out and all their buddies realized that their homoerotic jesting is even better when one of them is actually gay.

    It makes playing gay chicken with them really hard though.

    Damnit, I've heard of this sort of thing -- but I've only seen it in person once.

    I needed more straight homoerotic friends growing up.

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melkster wrote: »
    Melkster wrote: »
    I guess a critical mass of gay people came out and all their buddies realized that their homoerotic jesting is even better when one of them is actually gay.

    It makes playing gay chicken with them really hard though.

    Damnit, I've heard of this sort of thing -- but I've only seen it in person once.

    I needed more straight homoerotic friends growing up.

    I was just discussing this with a gay friend, and I realized I had to explain what gay chicken was to him. It kind of blew my mind. I had a roommate who could play the game with the best.

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