Club PA 2.0 has arrived! If you'd like to access some extra PA content and help support the forums, check it out at patreon.com/ClubPA
The image size limit has been raised to 1mb! Anything larger than that should be linked to. This is a HARD limit, please do not abuse it.
Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it, follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
Our rules have been updated and given their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!

[Gay Rights] Don't Ask, Don't Tell Ruled Unconstitutional!

1313234363762

Posts

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    How about instead of the extreme of two hot chicks making out, have a thirty-second ad split evenly between two attractive guys doing something like a family dinner and two good-looking women having a similar homey thing? Appeal to both sexes, and show that gay people like the same things straights do.

    ummm... since im all for equal rights for gays/lesbains already, can I get the commercial with the two hot chicks making out?

    Deebaser on
    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
  • MrMisterMrMister A pup must first get in the water to be successful as a seal!Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    zerg rush wrote: »
    If every pro-gay-marriage commercial had two super hot lesbians making out, even the staunchest opponents would start to appreciate gay marriage.

    This is extremely doubtful, and even were it not, it's also horrifyingly objectifying.

    MrMister on
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I agree with the suggestion above of showing gay couples doing normal things.

    Like, have a family dinner, kids laughing, grandpa chatting his daughter, there's Dad feeding the baby, pan around ... and there's other dad helping grama bring the food in.

    I think in the end most people are pretty accepting if their long time friend or whatever comes out cause, you know, sure he's gay, but he's your buddy! He's cool, unlike all those other freaky gays the Newsman tells me about. Show that their just normal people, just like you.

    shryke on
  • MrMisterMrMister A pup must first get in the water to be successful as a seal!Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    shryke wrote: »
    I agree with the suggestion above of showing gay couples doing normal things.

    PR people are aware of this line of approach. IIRC there was a campaign down under that was more or less this exact strategy: showing woman in bed fighting over the blankets, then panning back to show that her partner is actually a woman; having a woman talking to someone about how insecure she feels when the offscreen partner stares at other women, then panning back to show that the partner is actually another women, etc.

    This is also why gay rights groups love wedding photos. Weddings are universally keyed to joy. The appropriate response to seeing people getting married is to overflow with well wishes. So by showing gay and lesbian couples marrying it prompts the viewers to have that response to a gay and lesbian couple.

    MrMister on
  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So I wrote this op-ed for the local paper, and I'm looking for feedback before sending it.

    Thoughts? Feel free to be as brutal as possible; I'd love for this message to get out there.
    Austin gay teens,

    I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention to the news recently. But if you have, you might have heard about some gay teens who have committed suicide. Most recently, it was Tyler Clementi, an 18 year old college student who jumped off a bridge earlier this week.

    The adults in this gay-friendly city might think our teens are immune to the forces that drive them to suicide, but I grew up here. I went to Crockett High School and graduated from St. Edward’s University in 2008.

    Austin is a friendly place for a gay adult, but that’s not always the case for you, as a teen.

    Maybe you’ve been bullied or harassed at school. Perhaps your parents don’t accept you. Maybe you’ve been abandoned by your friends, or humiliated by them. Maybe you’ve been bothered by the anti-gay teachings of your church. Or maybe you just feel different, lonely, or confused.

    But I want you to know something:

    It gets better.

    And you need to be alive to see it.

    Take me, for example. My parents were very religious and intolerant towards gays, and I believed the homophobic teachings of my church up until about halfway through college. My parents tried to force me into religious counseling when I came out, and withheld financial support until I gave in. Some of my friends abandoned me, and I felt lonely, rejected, and terrible.

    But it got better.

    Now, at 24, my life is great. I have a great job at a local non-profit. My friends are awesome and loving. My parents and I now have a great relationship. I’m happier than I’ve ever been in my life.

    I’m also dating this really awesome guy, a programmer who loves cats and dogs, movies and video games. We’ve seen movies at the Austin Gay and Lesbian Film Festival and FantasticFest, and we’ve hiked and swam at the Barton Creek Greenbelt. We’ve played wacky board games that we bought at Dragon’s Lair up in North Austin and we regularly enjoy having frozen margaritas and fajitas at Maudie’s.

    Austin is a great place to be a grown-up gay. You should stick around and see what that’s like.

    If you’re having problems at school, or with your family, church, or friends, please talk to someone you trust. Call the Trevor Project hotline at (866) 488-7386, or get in touch with Out Youth at www.outyouth.org. Or heck, if none of them help, find me on Facebook and send me a message.

    But most importantly, remember that it doesn’t matter how bad things are right now, because your life will be amazing once you get out of high school and college and start living life on your own terms.

    Adam Easterling

    Melkster on
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    There was a campaign like that for a while. Including a lady drinking milk straight from the carton and then denying it when her same-sex partner asks from the other room if she's doing it. "Gay marriage is just like yours...only gayer."

    Blackjack on
    camo_sig2.png

    3DS: 1607-3034-6970
  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    zerg rush wrote: »
    I still hold that Pavlovian conditioning applies to humans. And that people make decisions emotionally and not rationally.


    If every pro-gay-marriage commercial had two super hot lesbians making out, even the staunchest opponents would start to appreciate gay marriage. Instead of, "Ugh, fags," it would become "gay marriage is wrong but it ain't so bad. Hell I'mma go buy the DVD of gay marriage."


    It's not a rational argument. You just make them feel good every time they see your political advertising, and count on it during voting time. It's fundamentally the same thing all political candidates do.

    Man, that ain't nearly how Classical Conditioning works anyway.

    It's got to be on a much, much simpler level. And it doesn't really change cognitions, only specific behavior.

    Edit: Man the "it gets better" stuff chokes me the hell up.

    durandal4532 on
    Take a moment to donate what you can to the International Rescue Committee, the National Immigration Law Center, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the American Civil Liberties Union. There has never been a more urgent moment to do so.
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    There was a campaign like that for a while. Including a lady drinking milk straight from the carton and then denying it when her same-sex partner asks from the other room if she's doing it. "Gay marriage is just like yours...only gayer."

    That is an excellent slogan.

    Styrofoam Sammich on
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    There was a campaign like that for a while. Including a lady drinking milk straight from the carton and then denying it when her same-sex partner asks from the other room if she's doing it. "Gay marriage is just like yours...only gayer."

    :lol: I like that tag line.

    shryke on
  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melks is it important to mention where you bought the board games? I've visited Austin a few times, but I can't say I know anything about Dragon's Liar.

    I think it is more important to just talk about having fun and enjoying life with your boyfriend than name dropping things like the "Austin Gay and Lesbian Film Festival." That is unless you think all austin area gay teens strive to visit that film festival.

    CommunistCow on
    No, I am not really communist. Yes, it is weird that I use this name.
  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    zerg rush wrote: »
    I still hold that Pavlovian conditioning applies to humans. And that people make decisions emotionally and not rationally.


    If every pro-gay-marriage commercial had two super hot lesbians making out, even the staunchest opponents would start to appreciate gay marriage. Instead of, "Ugh, fags," it would become "gay marriage is wrong but it ain't so bad. Hell I'mma go buy the DVD of gay marriage."


    It's not a rational argument. You just make them feel good every time they see your political advertising, and count on it during voting time. It's fundamentally the same thing all political candidates do.

    Man, that ain't nearly how Classical Conditioning works anyway.

    It's got to be on a much, much simpler level. And it doesn't really change cognitions, only specific behavior.

    Edit: Man the "it gets better" stuff chokes me the hell up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B-hVWQnjjM

    MuddBudd on
    steam_sig.png
  • takyristakyris Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melkster wrote: »
    So I wrote this op-ed for the local paper, and I'm looking for feedback before sending it.

    I thought that was fantastic. The use of local Austin locations (I'm assuming) grounded it in reality, and it felt really sincere. Send it.

    takyris on
    Dox the PI wrote:
    takyris, Greek God of blowing shit up.
  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Umm, by "the staunchest opponents" do you actually mean "some heterosexual men"? Because those are the only ones I can see your theory having a possible effect on.

    Besides, if your Pavlovian method works and is legitimate, why limit its application to gay rights? Let's have every political ad have two hot chicks making out so the public gets a positive association with that candidate. Put them in car commercials, PSAs, have replace Biden and Pelosi with a couple of pornstars going at it behind Obama during the State of the Union. I'm sure there won't be any negative repercussions.

    Commercials do this all the time anyway.

    Beer? If you buy it, hot chicks want to sleep with you.
    New Car? If you buy it, hot chicks want to sleep with you.
    Doritos? Apparently hot chicks want to sleep with you because of Doritos or something.
    Internet Domain Name Registration? Hot chicks.

    Occasionally, you get family friendly stuff, like how McDonalds makes your family love you. And political campaigns are American flags, American flags, American flags, American flags... Advertising has already gone to purely emotional arguments.


    Sex sells. There's a reason every other advertisement does it already. And yeah, two chicks making out is hyperbole, but it still seems odd that gay instead of lesbian is the face of the movement.

    zerg rush on
  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Doesn't seem odd to me when the mentality that lesbians are just women who never had 'good sex' with a man before still exists.

    Kagera on
    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melks is it important to mention where you bought the board games? I've visited Austin a few times, but I can't say I know anything about Dragon's Liar.

    I think it is more important to just talk about having fun and enjoying life with your boyfriend than name dropping things like the "Austin Gay and Lesbian Film Festival." That is unless you think all austin area gay teens strive to visit that film festival.

    I was trying to ground it reality. I wanted to be specific that we're enjoying THESE THINGS in AUSTIN, specifically. That is, Austin is an awesome place to be gay for reasons 1, 2, and 3.

    Edit: I mean, I'm not trying to say that's what they should strive for, any more than they might be struggling with the same things that I have struggled with. I'm just trying to convey my personal specific experience, which connects to a broader theme. Namely, that being a gay grown up is miles better than being a gay teen.
    takyris wrote: »
    Melkster wrote: »
    So I wrote this op-ed for the local paper, and I'm looking for feedback before sending it.

    I thought that was fantastic. The use of local Austin locations (I'm assuming) grounded it in reality, and it felt really sincere. Send it.

    I appreciate it. =)

    Melkster on
  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melkster you rock

    So It Goes on
  • mythagomythago Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    zerg rush wrote: »
    Sex sells. There's a reason every other advertisement does it already. And yeah, two chicks making out is hyperbole, but it still seems odd that gay instead of lesbian is the face of the movement.

    If sex really sold, then every single advertisement everywhere for everything would have people getting it on, and the most successful ad campaigns of all time would involve sex. They don't, and they don't. It's almost as if "sex sells" is a slogan thrown around by lazy ad guys - hey, can't think of a clever tagline, so I'll put in T&A.

    And we've been over the hot lesbian chicks issue. Repeatedly. It's nonsense. Do you really think there is a correlation between guys who have stacks of lesbian porn on their hard drives and positive attitudes about homosexuals, let alone gay marriage? I get that you want to see ads with chicks making out, but c'mon.

    Speaking from personal experience, no, the 'lesbian' label does not mean 'homosexual' to an awful lot of straight people. It just means 'really into chicks.' Do you really think out lesbians never get hit on by straight men, or never get a hostile reaction when they explain that 'lesbian' means something other than 'sure, I'd love to have a hot threesome with you and your girlfriend'? And you're making a rather large leap to assume that people follow this train of logic: I find two feminine women making out totally hot, therefore I accept homosexuality, therefore I believe homosexuals should have full civil rights.

    Melkster: I think it's perfect as is. Go you.

    mythago on
    Three lines of plaintext:
    obsolete signature form
    replaced by JPEGs.
  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    I'm sure that Katy Perry song has made great strides for gay equality.

    Yes, if there's one thing I associate Katy Perry with, it's her message of tolerance

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUxJVcz1aV8

    gtrmp on
  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Thanks for the encouragement everyone. =)

    I called the Opinion and Letters editors, left voice mails, and wrote e-mails to them. We'll see if they pick it up.

    Melkster on
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    zerg rush wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Umm, by "the staunchest opponents" do you actually mean "some heterosexual men"? Because those are the only ones I can see your theory having a possible effect on.

    Besides, if your Pavlovian method works and is legitimate, why limit its application to gay rights? Let's have every political ad have two hot chicks making out so the public gets a positive association with that candidate. Put them in car commercials, PSAs, have replace Biden and Pelosi with a couple of pornstars going at it behind Obama during the State of the Union. I'm sure there won't be any negative repercussions.

    Commercials do this all the time anyway.

    Beer? If you buy it, hot chicks want to sleep with you.
    New Car? If you buy it, hot chicks want to sleep with you.
    Doritos? Apparently hot chicks want to sleep with you because of Doritos or something.
    Internet Domain Name Registration? Hot chicks.

    Occasionally, you get family friendly stuff, like how McDonalds makes your family love you. And political campaigns are American flags, American flags, American flags, American flags... Advertising has already gone to purely emotional arguments.


    Sex sells. There's a reason every other advertisement does it already. And yeah, two chicks making out is hyperbole, but it still seems odd that gay instead of lesbian is the face of the movement.

    I've found that McDonald's (at least a lot of McDonald's) makes chicks not want to sleep with you, so it would just be false advertising.

    Drez on
  • Saint MadnessSaint Madness Registered User
    edited October 2010
    The Education Secretary released this statement yesterday.
    "This week, we sadly lost two young men who took their own lives for one unacceptable reason: they were being bullied and harassed because they were openly gay or believed to be gay. These unnecessary tragedies come on the heels of at least three other young people taking their own lives because the trauma of being bullied and harassed for their actual or perceived sexual orientation was too much to bear.

    "This is a moment where every one of us - parents, teachers, students, elected officials, and all people of conscience - needs to stand up and speak out against intolerance in all its forms. Whether it's students harassing other students because of ethnicity, disability or religion; or an adult, public official harassing the President of the University of Michigan student body because he is gay, it is time we as a country said enough. No more. This must stop."

    Bolded for fuck yeah

    Saint Madness on
  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Doesn't seem odd to me when the mentality that lesbians are just women who never had 'good sex' with a man before still exists.

    To be fair, my ex-girlfriend fell into that category. Kind of sort of stole her from her girlfriend. Granted, it was more like she just gravitated toward me, but still. Her ex wasn't happy about it, and took revenge by stealing both of our sketchbooks.

    Also, that's a damn good read Melkster.

    Xenogear_0001 on
    steam_sig.png
  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    After seeing that assistant AG on Anderson Cooper I have a hard time calling him an "adult."

    Bama on
  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The Education Secretary released this statement yesterday.
    "This week, we sadly lost two young men who took their own lives for one unacceptable reason: they were being bullied and harassed because they were openly gay or believed to be gay. These unnecessary tragedies come on the heels of at least three other young people taking their own lives because the trauma of being bullied and harassed for their actual or perceived sexual orientation was too much to bear.

    "This is a moment where every one of us - parents, teachers, students, elected officials, and all people of conscience - needs to stand up and speak out against intolerance in all its forms. Whether it's students harassing other students because of ethnicity, disability or religion; or an adult, public official harassing the President of the University of Michigan student body because he is gay, it is time we as a country said enough. No more. This must stop."

    Bolded for fuck yeah
    They really just need to come out and say "listen, conservative Christians, this is pretty much all your fault, and you are horrible fucking people who don't even know what the founder of your own church had to say on the issue."

    Thanatos on
  • StericaSterica Wow! That was shit.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    A friend of mine posted the Ellen video on Facebook.

    Only two replies were A) What about suicide from OTHER things, huh? And proceeded into shalmtzy rant about love and B) What about MILITARY deaths, huh? The media never covers those!

    I kinda lost it and went a bit into angry rant mode there.

    Sterica on
    YL9WnCY.png
  • mythagomythago Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Doesn't seem odd to me when the mentality that lesbians are just women who never had 'good sex' with a man before still exists.

    To be fair, my ex-girlfriend fell into that category. Kind of sort of stole her from her girlfriend.

    That 'category' is bisexual.

    mythago on
    Three lines of plaintext:
    obsolete signature form
    replaced by JPEGs.
  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    A friend of mine posted the Ellen video on Facebook.

    Only two replies were A) What about suicide from OTHER things, huh? And proceeded into shalmtzy rant about love and B) What about MILITARY deaths, huh? The media never covers those!

    I kinda lost it and went a bit into angry rant mode there.

    Did you remind them that people being bullied for being timid and people being bullied for being in the Marines isn't really common or in some cases considered SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE?

    The Muffin Man on
  • StericaSterica Wow! That was shit.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    I basically said that if the situation was flipped they'd look like tremendous dicks.

    Sterica on
    YL9WnCY.png
  • StericaSterica Wow! That was shit.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    I forgot to mention that the guy ranting about military deaths began his post with "Suicides happen all the time...". Yeah.

    Sterica on
    YL9WnCY.png
  • KalTorakKalTorak Way up inside your butthole, Morty. WAAAAY up inside there.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I forgot to mention that the guy ranting about military deaths began his post with "Suicides happen all the time...". Yeah.

    Yeah, they're like thunderstorms or earthquakes or car accidents. They happen all the time, no point in trying to stop them, right?

    KalTorak on
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I forgot to mention that the guy ranting about military deaths began his post with "Suicides happen all the time...". Yeah.

    Yeah, they're like thunderstorms or earthquakes or car accidents. They happen all the time, no point in trying to stop them, right?
    What the city needed, said reformers, was a sewage system that
    would carry waste away from the river.

    Yet no private individual was willing to build such a system, and influential people were
    opposed to the idea that the government should take responsibility
    for such a problem. For example, the magazine The Economist weighed
    in against the proposals for a government-built sewage system,
    declaring that "suffering and evil are nature's abominations- they cannot be gotten rid of."

    Styrofoam Sammich on
  • KalTorakKalTorak Way up inside your butthole, Morty. WAAAAY up inside there.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    What's that quote from, sounds interesting.

    KalTorak on
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    What's that quote from, sounds interesting.

    Oh god I can't remember. I usually break it out for libertarians, but it seemed relevant. I'll give googling the quote a shot.

    EDIT for success: Economics by Krugman and Wells

    Styrofoam Sammich on
  • mythagomythago Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    For example, the magazine The Economist weighed
    in against the proposals for a government-built sewage system,
    declaring that "suffering and evil are nature's abominations- they cannot be gotten rid of."

    I see they're getting back to their roots. Today they'd say the same thing with some free market arglebargle thrown in.

    mythago on
    Three lines of plaintext:
    obsolete signature form
    replaced by JPEGs.
  • StericaSterica Wow! That was shit.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    Bleh, facebook guy is a raging fundie. Apparently we're supposed to just love everyone but being gay is a sin so fuck these kids. I really have a hard time deciphering it, but it basically sounds like he wants to come off as a compassionate guy while simultaneously giving the finger to those goddamn faggots.

    He never said anything beyond "Being gay is a sin," but it's so damn tasteless to post that shit and the hypocrisy of his love 'n' hugs bullshit shines through.

    Sterica on
    YL9WnCY.png
  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Bleh, facebook guy is a raging fundie. Apparently we're supposed to just love everyone but being gay is a sin so fuck these kids. I really have a hard time deciphering it, but it basically sounds like he wants to come off as a compassionate guy while simultaneously giving the finger to those goddamn faggots.

    whos this now?

    Styrofoam Sammich on
  • KalTorakKalTorak Way up inside your butthole, Morty. WAAAAY up inside there.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Bleh, facebook guy is a raging fundie. Apparently we're supposed to just love everyone but being gay is a sin so fuck these kids. I really have a hard time deciphering it, but it basically sounds like he wants to come off as a compassionate guy while simultaneously giving the finger to those goddamn faggots.

    whos this now?

    Some asshole on Rorus' facebook.

    KalTorak on
  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Hell, without context I thought he meant the top guy at Facebook.

    Figured it could hurt the box office take for the movie, but I guess "facebook guy" can actually mean a lot of people.

    Forar on
    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Melkster wrote: »
    So I wrote this op-ed for the local paper, and I'm looking for feedback before sending it.

    Thoughts? Feel free to be as brutal as possible; I'd love for this message to get out there.
    Austin gay teens,

    I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention to the news recently. But if you have, you might have heard about some gay teens who have committed suicide. Most recently, it was Tyler Clementi, an 18 year old college student who jumped off a bridge earlier this week.

    The adults in this gay-friendly city might think our teens are immune to the forces that drive them to suicide, but I grew up here. I went to Crockett High School and graduated from St. Edward’s University in 2008.

    Austin is a friendly place for a gay adult, but that’s not always the case for you, as a teen.

    Maybe you’ve been bullied or harassed at school. Perhaps your parents don’t accept you. Maybe you’ve been abandoned by your friends, or humiliated by them. Maybe you’ve been bothered by the anti-gay teachings of your church. Or maybe you just feel different, lonely, or confused.

    But I want you to know something:

    It gets better.

    And you need to be alive to see it.

    Take me, for example. My parents were very religious and intolerant towards gays, and I believed the homophobic teachings of my church up until about halfway through college. My parents tried to force me into religious counseling when I came out, and withheld financial support until I gave in. Some of my friends abandoned me, and I felt lonely, rejected, and terrible.

    But it got better.

    Now, at 24, my life is great. I have a great job at a local non-profit. My friends are awesome and loving. My parents and I now have a great relationship. I’m happier than I’ve ever been in my life.

    I’m also dating this really awesome guy, a programmer who loves cats and dogs, movies and video games. We’ve seen movies at the Austin Gay and Lesbian Film Festival and FantasticFest, and we’ve hiked and swam at the Barton Creek Greenbelt. We’ve played wacky board games that we bought at Dragon’s Lair up in North Austin and we regularly enjoy having frozen margaritas and fajitas at Maudie’s.

    Austin is a great place to be a grown-up gay. You should stick around and see what that’s like.

    If you’re having problems at school, or with your family, church, or friends, please talk to someone you trust. Call the Trevor Project hotline at (866) 488-7386, or get in touch with Out Youth at www.outyouth.org. Or heck, if none of them help, find me on Facebook and send me a message.

    But most importantly, remember that it doesn’t matter how bad things are right now, because your life will be amazing once you get out of high school and college and start living life on your own terms.

    Adam Easterling

    That's fantastic. Depending on the paper though, they might be hesitant to publish something that takes that many swipes at religion. On the otherhand, the points about religious teachings being largely intolerant is motherfucking spot on.

    Deebaser on
    YOLO. Swag. Whatever. Fuck it. Lets do this.
  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Edit: So yeah, with a few edits they're gonna actually gonna publish the op-ed I wrote.

    Sadly, they don't publish 'open letters,' so they had to change the tone of the whole thing. Hopefully it still retains it's original feeling.

    Melkster on
This discussion has been closed.