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[Gay Rights] Don't Ask, Don't Tell Ruled Unconstitutional!
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ummm... since im all for equal rights for gays/lesbains already, can I get the commercial with the two hot chicks making out?
This is extremely doubtful, and even were it not, it's also horrifyingly objectifying.
Like, have a family dinner, kids laughing, grandpa chatting his daughter, there's Dad feeding the baby, pan around ... and there's other dad helping grama bring the food in.
I think in the end most people are pretty accepting if their long time friend or whatever comes out cause, you know, sure he's gay, but he's your buddy! He's cool, unlike all those other freaky gays the Newsman tells me about. Show that their just normal people, just like you.
PR people are aware of this line of approach. IIRC there was a campaign down under that was more or less this exact strategy: showing woman in bed fighting over the blankets, then panning back to show that her partner is actually a woman; having a woman talking to someone about how insecure she feels when the offscreen partner stares at other women, then panning back to show that the partner is actually another women, etc.
This is also why gay rights groups love wedding photos. Weddings are universally keyed to joy. The appropriate response to seeing people getting married is to overflow with well wishes. So by showing gay and lesbian couples marrying it prompts the viewers to have that response to a gay and lesbian couple.
Thoughts? Feel free to be as brutal as possible; I'd love for this message to get out there.
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Man, that ain't nearly how Classical Conditioning works anyway.
It's got to be on a much, much simpler level. And it doesn't really change cognitions, only specific behavior.
Edit: Man the "it gets better" stuff chokes me the hell up.
That is an excellent slogan.
I think it is more important to just talk about having fun and enjoying life with your boyfriend than name dropping things like the "Austin Gay and Lesbian Film Festival." That is unless you think all austin area gay teens strive to visit that film festival.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B-hVWQnjjM
I thought that was fantastic. The use of local Austin locations (I'm assuming) grounded it in reality, and it felt really sincere. Send it.
Commercials do this all the time anyway.
Beer? If you buy it, hot chicks want to sleep with you.
New Car? If you buy it, hot chicks want to sleep with you.
Doritos? Apparently hot chicks want to sleep with you because of Doritos or something.
Internet Domain Name Registration? Hot chicks.
Occasionally, you get family friendly stuff, like how McDonalds makes your family love you. And political campaigns are American flags, American flags, American flags, American flags... Advertising has already gone to purely emotional arguments.
Sex sells. There's a reason every other advertisement does it already. And yeah, two chicks making out is hyperbole, but it still seems odd that gay instead of lesbian is the face of the movement.
I was trying to ground it reality. I wanted to be specific that we're enjoying THESE THINGS in AUSTIN, specifically. That is, Austin is an awesome place to be gay for reasons 1, 2, and 3.
Edit: I mean, I'm not trying to say that's what they should strive for, any more than they might be struggling with the same things that I have struggled with. I'm just trying to convey my personal specific experience, which connects to a broader theme. Namely, that being a gay grown up is miles better than being a gay teen.
I appreciate it. =)
If sex really sold, then every single advertisement everywhere for everything would have people getting it on, and the most successful ad campaigns of all time would involve sex. They don't, and they don't. It's almost as if "sex sells" is a slogan thrown around by lazy ad guys - hey, can't think of a clever tagline, so I'll put in T&A.
And we've been over the hot lesbian chicks issue. Repeatedly. It's nonsense. Do you really think there is a correlation between guys who have stacks of lesbian porn on their hard drives and positive attitudes about homosexuals, let alone gay marriage? I get that you want to see ads with chicks making out, but c'mon.
Speaking from personal experience, no, the 'lesbian' label does not mean 'homosexual' to an awful lot of straight people. It just means 'really into chicks.' Do you really think out lesbians never get hit on by straight men, or never get a hostile reaction when they explain that 'lesbian' means something other than 'sure, I'd love to have a hot threesome with you and your girlfriend'? And you're making a rather large leap to assume that people follow this train of logic: I find two feminine women making out totally hot, therefore I accept homosexuality, therefore I believe homosexuals should have full civil rights.
Melkster: I think it's perfect as is. Go you.
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Yes, if there's one thing I associate Katy Perry with, it's her message of tolerance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUxJVcz1aV8
I called the Opinion and Letters editors, left voice mails, and wrote e-mails to them. We'll see if they pick it up.
I've found that McDonald's (at least a lot of McDonald's) makes chicks not want to sleep with you, so it would just be false advertising.
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To be fair, my ex-girlfriend fell into that category. Kind of sort of stole her from her girlfriend. Granted, it was more like she just gravitated toward me, but still. Her ex wasn't happy about it, and took revenge by stealing both of our sketchbooks.
Also, that's a damn good read Melkster.
Only two replies were A) What about suicide from OTHER things, huh? And proceeded into shalmtzy rant about love and B) What about MILITARY deaths, huh? The media never covers those!
I kinda lost it and went a bit into angry rant mode there.
That 'category' is bisexual.
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Did you remind them that people being bullied for being timid and people being bullied for being in the Marines isn't really common or in some cases considered SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE?
Yeah, they're like thunderstorms or earthquakes or car accidents. They happen all the time, no point in trying to stop them, right?
Oh god I can't remember. I usually break it out for libertarians, but it seemed relevant. I'll give googling the quote a shot.
EDIT for success: Economics by Krugman and Wells
I see they're getting back to their roots. Today they'd say the same thing with some free market arglebargle thrown in.
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He never said anything beyond "Being gay is a sin," but it's so damn tasteless to post that shit and the hypocrisy of his love 'n' hugs bullshit shines through.
whos this now?
Some asshole on Rorus' facebook.
Figured it could hurt the box office take for the movie, but I guess "facebook guy" can actually mean a lot of people.
That's fantastic. Depending on the paper though, they might be hesitant to publish something that takes that many swipes at religion. On the otherhand, the points about religious teachings being largely intolerant is motherfucking spot on.
Sadly, they don't publish 'open letters,' so they had to change the tone of the whole thing. Hopefully it still retains it's original feeling.