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[WoW][Chat] Cata cata cata pon! (LOTS OF INFO IN THE OP)

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    BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Are you disagreeing that you need more buttons on your bar or are you saying that we have enough to work with already?

    I feel like I have plenty of buttons keybound on my prot warrior already. I suppose one or two more wouldn't kill me.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2010
    Bobble wrote: »
    Are you disagreeing that you need more buttons on your bar or are you saying that we have enough to work with already?

    I feel like I have plenty of buttons keybound on my prot warrior already. I suppose one or two more wouldn't kill me.

    You can get by with adding one binding, if you are really hurting for space. You can click rend (HILARIOUS) since you only need to apply it once during a fight, and you can use one binding for HS/Cleave and just interchange which one you need as the situation applies.

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    BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Yes indeed, I'll have to click rend. It's worth it to scream BLOOD AND THUNDER everytime I TC though.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    This is all you need to know about the patch.

    Shaman's and DK's are going to two-shot everything.

    deal with it.
    It shall be GLORIOUS

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    DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I really hope bear tanking will magically be fun now. bear tank is the facerollingest class of all, in a game of facerolling.


    ...soo, after someone's RankWatch alerted me to the fact that my newly 80'd shaman was using a downranked spell, I thanked him and promptly downloaded the addon to make sure it never happened again, and to do a public service to everyone around me.

    oh, the horror! Ignorance is bliss... get this addon and you will find that like 1 in 4 players use downranked versions of their core abilities... even people with 5000 gearscore... why god why...

    Again, luckily for you, you can drop this mod after tonight, because it will be useless!


    Regarding the two-shotting: Shamans because of Lava Lash apparently being ridiculous instead of a joke, but DKs why? When I was on Beta last night, nothing seemed to be hitting ridiculously hard for my DK... of course, I only tried Blood and Unholy. Unholy does seem fun, I may go back to that with my Orc...

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Is it Elemental or Enhancement that's 2-shotting people?

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    God more buttons for my prot warrior, just what I always wanted.

    I am so excited about the warlock stuff it's ridiculous. No more shards! A reasonable amount of bag space! Evocation! I do wonder what size bag the 32 slot soul bag turns into, though. I wonder if I should log on and make like three or four more of them.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    PvE balance should be doable, except for a couple of classes that might still be fucked (Kitty Druids for instance)

    PvP will be totally, 100% fucked up. But that's expected. It happened last expansion too. It's why the Arena Season is now over.

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    BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    God more buttons for my prot warrior, just what I always wanted.

    I am so excited about the warlock stuff it's ridiculous. No more shards! A reasonable amount of bag space! Evocation! I do wonder what size bag the 32 slot soul bag turns into, though. I wonder if I should log on and make like three or four more of them.

    I'm guessing it'll go Biggest shard bag -> Biggest Bag
    etc.

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    DacDac Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    captaink wrote: »
    Is it Elemental or Enhancement that's 2-shotting people?

    Not Enhancement.

    Most of our stuff hits for a lot less now honestly, it's just that Lava Lash now hits like a truck. But it's nowhere near two-shotting.

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    tehmarkentehmarken BrooklynRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    It'll be interesting to mess around with the new pally system. I'm looking forward to running some heroics to retrain myself.

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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Down to only needing 32 more Gordok Shackle Keys to be exalted with all four goblin cities, which will also bring me up to 40 exalted reputations for the achievement/title.
    Provided tomorrow's patch doesn't do anything to really screw me over like remove Knot Thimblejack or something, I should have it within a few days to a week (unless the Zandalar Tribe goes poof tomorrow instead of 4.0.3 in which case I'll need to go farm Sha'tar rep or something).

    Also as a service to my guild (and because I have a Moll-E and can only hold a single ogre suit at a time), all the regular members are receiving a mail to explain some of the new systems with a free ogre suit attached to help them cope with all the change. Got like 2k goblin rep from making those suits and still got 40 more tannin in my bank (though I'm out of rugged leather now).

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    28682868 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    What's the big deal about prot warriors and their buttons?

    Here's my layout, roughly...

    Mouse Wheel Down: Heroic Strike, Mouse Wheel Up: Cleave

    Shift Mouse Wheel Down: Shield Block, Shift Mouse Wheel Up: Spell Reflect, Shift Middle Mouse Button: Shield Wall

    Tab: Charge, Shift Tab: Intercept, Shift MB4: Intervene

    1: Rend, 2: Thunder Clap, 3: Shockwave

    Shift 1: Slam (unused), Shift 2: Mocking Blow

    Q: Devestate, Shift Q: Revenge, E: Shield Slam, Shift E: Heroic Blow, Shift D : Disarm

    C: Concussion Blow, and Shift W: Shield Bash

    Vigilance, Last Stand, Frenzied Regen, Berserker Rage, and Every Man For Himself are all click abilities

    F: Taunt, Shift F: Challenging Shout

    Jesus we prot warriors have a lot of buttons.

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    derangedhermitderangedhermit Madstrike PortugalRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    God more buttons for my prot warrior, just what I always wanted.

    I am so excited about the warlock stuff it's ridiculous. No more shards! A reasonable amount of bag space! Evocation! I do wonder what size bag the 32 slot soul bag turns into, though. I wonder if I should log on and make like three or four more of them.

    32 Slot shard bag turns into a 22 slot bag.

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Last Stand, Frenzied Regen, Berserker Rage, and Every Man For Himself are all click abilities

    well, there's reason #1 you have some spare buttons.

    also you have some shift reaches there that I don't really like, although that's preference I guess. I personally don't like using mousewheel directions either.

    There was a stretch of the warrior thread a while ago that had lots of people listing their prot binds

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Hopefully I can get my Mage to 40 tonight, That way I'll be able to go this way come tomorrow.

    And I'll be give Affliction another chance on the 'Lock.

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    L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Is ZG going away tomorrow? People were saying no, because the world isn't changing, but then people are saying yes. I'm confused, and wish to know for sure...
    Granted, I did them and it wasn't really an issue, but still, I'd like to know and clear the air up.

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    MonstyMonsty Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I would bet money it will still be there.

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    The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Ditto.

    Nothing about the physical world is changing with 4.0.1. It'll be gone by 4.0.3 though.

    I'd like to know if the system that is supposed to put a balance on players for WG is going to be in 4.0.1 though; as I never bothered with the PTR.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I'd like to know if the system that is supposed to put a balance on players for WG is going to be in 4.0.1 though; as I never bothered with the PTR.

    Last I heard it wasn't working properly yet.

    Possible they fixed it, though. Dunno.

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    GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So I'm thinking about checking out one of the new race/class combinations tomorrow. Did they change racials at all for Cata? I thought I read somewhere that they all were getting overhauled.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    ZG will still be there tomorrow.

    I got exalted anyways.

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So I'm thinking about checking out one of the new race/class combinations tomorrow. Did they change racials at all for Cata? I thought I read somewhere that they all were getting overhauled.

    Not tomorrow.

    And the racials weren't overhauled.

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    W2W2 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Ditto.

    Nothing about the physical world is changing with 4.0.1. It'll be gone by 4.0.3 though.

    I'd like to know if the system that is supposed to put a balance on players for WG is going to be in 4.0.1 though; as I never bothered with the PTR.

    People are going crazy on Khaz'goroth buying bijous and polymorph turtles and stuff, so they must be under the impression that it's going away tomorrow.

    Fine by me if it doesn't, people will keep buying my bijous.

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    MonstyMonsty Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I guarantee this a stupid question, but what benefit do the profession bonus racials actually provide? Don't you still start at a skill of one point? I big dumb dumb and want be smrt.

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    BeezelBeezel There was no agreement little morsel..Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Someone on my realm is selling abyssal bags for 10k golds

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    I updated the OP sorting out all of the expansion ramp-up stuff. If you have any burning questions about 4.0.1 and the future of the game up to Cataclysm's launch, please check the OP first.

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    SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Monsty wrote: »
    I guarantee this a stupid question, but what benefit do the profession bonus racials actually provide? Don't you still start at a skill of one point? I big dumb dumb and want be smrt.

    I think it's a benefit at some of the skill breakpoints(for gathering), like maybe journeyman -> artisan, so that the orange herbs/mines fail less often, or so when you're in a zone that has herbs/mines that straddle journeyman and artisan, you can gather the higher level ones until you have enough skill to train up to the next level.

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Monsty wrote: »
    I guarantee this a stupid question, but what benefit do the profession bonus racials actually provide? Don't you still start at a skill of one point? I big dumb dumb and want be smrt.

    You can get to stuff 'sooner' so it stays orange for longer, right?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2010
    captaink wrote: »
    Monsty wrote: »
    I guarantee this a stupid question, but what benefit do the profession bonus racials actually provide? Don't you still start at a skill of one point? I big dumb dumb and want be smrt.

    You can get to stuff 'sooner' so it stays orange for longer, right?

    Yup.

    You gain skillups as if you had the base amount of points, but can learn things that are up to the bonus level.

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    TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Just so everyone is clear as it has come up a few times:

    No old world changes will in the game tomorrow. No new class/racial combos, No flying in the old world. No new areas to quest in.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So it's just the pre stuff like the removal of weapon skill and other things they talked about in the general overhaul of the game?

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    PellaeonPellaeon Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    TheGerbil wrote: »
    Just so everyone is clear as it has come up a few times:

    No old world changes will in the game tomorrow. No new class/racial combos, No flying in the old world. No new areas to quest in.

    I get that, I just want to know where I can teach my dwarf mage to fly to the worgen starting zone.

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    TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Brainleech wrote: »
    So it's just the pre stuff like the removal of weapon skill and other things they talked about in the general overhaul of the game?

    Pretty much. Class changes, glyph changes, UI changes, that sort of stuff.

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    28682868 Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Last Stand, Frenzied Regen, Berserker Rage, and Every Man For Himself are all click abilities

    well, there's reason #1 you have some spare buttons.

    also you have some shift reaches there that I don't really like, although that's preference I guess. I personally don't like using mousewheel directions either.

    There was a stretch of the warrior thread a while ago that had lots of people listing their prot binds

    I was being sarcastic when I commented on not using a lot of buttons.

    I don't use the default ui, so the bar that I click is near the center of my screen. Those few abilities I do click are situational, I can see them coming and flick the mouse cursor appropriately. I rarely need to quickly hit them.

    I use my thumb button to target, and I'm a full grown man, so there aren't any shift reaches. I mean it's as easy to hit all of the buttons while holding shift as it is to hit them normally. If I need to move but am using my middle finger for something other than W, I just depress the middle mouse button to move forward.

    Holding shift adds no complexity whatsoever.

    Really, what do you have tiny hands? or a huge keyboard?

    Also, thanks for suggesting a thread, but I'm OK with what I got at this point changing it wouldn't help me at all. I was just typing out all of the buttons we use.

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    L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Checking curse and wowace, most of my addons haven't been updated for 4.0, nor does it look like they will be. I guess I'll be playing with the godawful default UI for a couple of months here until Bartender gets updated and the X-Perl guy gets off his ass... :P

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    BeezelBeezel There was no agreement little morsel..Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Bartender worked fine on the ptr. SUF isn't updating so I'm going to have to go with pitbull 4. Necrosis is now obsolete for me so that's going. Anything else hasn't updated yet though.

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    PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    How much time do you get from a scroll of resurrection or whatever those things are you can send people who have been unsubscribed for awhile?

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    MonstyMonsty Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    IIRC, the person it's sent to gets 10 days and if he subs in that time the sender gets a month.

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    PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Hmmmm, I think I'll wait till I get some cash to buy a card before asking for a scroll.

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