brookings is awesome, i'm a little bummed though cause i wanted sevak to have a shot at bruce leeroy, but at the very least i think if neither of them makes it, dana will probably make them fight in the finale as the "grudge match" ala mitrione/big baby and yager/antonitto
Anyone notice how Koscheck is, in pretty much every episode, commenting on another mans body and physique? And constantly acting coy and flamboyant when he tries to be funny or weird out GSP with gay jokes. The freudian slip when he said he wanted to motorboat GSP's ass was also hilarious
I seriously do think he's in the closet now
I thought Koscheck was going out with Holly Madison, proving that MMAers who date porn stars are jackasses. see: Ortiz, Tito
I was watching the first fight and I looked away then Stevens tapped. I couldn't help but laugh my ass off. I rewound and watched the whole thing again. As Stevens goes in for the takedown, you can see Cody put his arm in his a circle shape that might as well have had a neon sign on it that said "PUT HEAD HERE" And then it was just over.
The second fight was just as silly though. GSP's guy gets behind him and just waits for Kos' guy to put his hand to the mat to hold his balance and then slip in the sleeper hold.
Nah, he pulled his ankle forward and up while his center of gravity was up high. I'm pretty sure the wrestling coach that GSP brought on TUF was seen pulling the same move.
Kos is pretty bad at off-the-cuff trash talk. Everything he's said to GSP or GSP's team has been... well, pretty weak. I guess he rehearses for his interviews. Chael is annoying as shit, but at least when he tries to trash talk, he succeeds.
apparantly UFC primetime isn't just effective for selling fights to us fans but it gets bas also (1:53) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPiqUzMm9lE
:P
as if it needs to be said again bas is awesome
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edited October 2010
The beef between Frank and Dana is getting tiresome.
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apparantly UFC primetime isn't just effective for selling fights to us fans but it gets bas also (1:53) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPiqUzMm9lE
:P
as if it needs to be said again bas is awesome
2 things.
1. Am I only the only person that thinks Frank just looks and acts like a douche here? I can't be alone.
2. I love how Fedor gives no answer at the end. Hilarious.
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I'm calling that choke the Fisherman choke. "McKenzietine" just sounds stupid, I'm sorry. The guys a fisherman, he catches people in his net, then they flop around like fish until they go limp. Its good an I'm sticking with it.
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The thing I might love the most about it is the fact that it happens so quickly that dudes don't know they're in trouble and they just go out, without getting the chance to tap.
The thing I might love the most about it is the fact that it happens so quickly that dudes don't know they're in trouble and they just go out, without getting the chance to tap.
Ahhh, Dana said this, but it isn't really true. He was in a guillotine, and he knew that was a dangerous spot to be in. He scrambled to get to the cross position on Cody's body, so he was actively countering it.
There's a very good chance though that he didn't expect it to come on that quickly. Guillotines are normally more of a strength move, and they usually take a moment or two to work themselves out. When Marc passed to side he probably thought he'd be fine, thats conventional wisdom in BJJ. He knew it was tight, but all he hand to do was hold on a few more seconds...
Just a nitpick I know, but its really hard to be caught in a choke and not be aware that you're in trouble. A beginner would have tapped no problem. Once you get used to it though, you only tap at the very last second, and if the choke comes on tighter than you expect, thats when you go out. Or, for all we know he's just not the type that taps to chokes. They're out there.
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The thing I might love the most about it is the fact that it happens so quickly that dudes don't know they're in trouble and they just go out, without getting the chance to tap.
Ahhh, Dana said this, but it isn't really true. He was in a guillotine, and he knew that was a dangerous spot to be in. He scrambled to get to the cross position on Cody's body, so he was actively countering it.
There's a very good chance though that he didn't expect it to come on that quickly. Guillotines are normally more of a strength move, and they usually take a moment or two to work themselves out. When Marc passed to side he probably thought he'd be fine, thats conventional wisdom in BJJ. He knew it was tight, but all he hand to do was hold on a few more seconds...
Just a nitpick I know, but its really hard to be caught in a choke and not be aware that you're in trouble. A beginner would have tapped no problem. Once you get used to it though, you only tap at the very last second, and if the choke comes on tighter than you expect, thats when you go out. Or, for all we know he's just not the type that taps to chokes. They're out there.
From what I've been reading, actually, it seems it's more that Cody's guillotine just isn't traditional, and the different angle of pressure means that being in the opposite side in side control means he isn't in a 'safe' position as compared to a traditional guillotine. I don't know how true that is, though.
I'm calling that choke the Fisherman choke. "McKenzietine" just sounds stupid, I'm sorry. The guys a fisherman, he catches people in his net, then they flop around like fish until they go limp. Its good an I'm sticking with it.
I would just call it "The Net".
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The thing I might love the most about it is the fact that it happens so quickly that dudes don't know they're in trouble and they just go out, without getting the chance to tap.
Ahhh, Dana said this, but it isn't really true. He was in a guillotine, and he knew that was a dangerous spot to be in. He scrambled to get to the cross position on Cody's body, so he was actively countering it.
There's a very good chance though that he didn't expect it to come on that quickly. Guillotines are normally more of a strength move, and they usually take a moment or two to work themselves out. When Marc passed to side he probably thought he'd be fine, thats conventional wisdom in BJJ. He knew it was tight, but all he hand to do was hold on a few more seconds...
Just a nitpick I know, but its really hard to be caught in a choke and not be aware that you're in trouble. A beginner would have tapped no problem. Once you get used to it though, you only tap at the very last second, and if the choke comes on tighter than you expect, thats when you go out. Or, for all we know he's just not the type that taps to chokes. They're out there.
From what I've been reading, actually, it seems it's more that Cody's guillotine just isn't traditional, and the different angle of pressure means that being in the opposite side in side control means he isn't in a 'safe' position as compared to a traditional guillotine. I don't know how true that is, though.
Oh its very true. It isn't traditional at all, the arm placement is quite different. The traditional guillotine is often more of a windchoke, whereas this seems to really target the carotid arteries. Obviously escaping to side doesn't relieve the pressure, it may even increase the pressure, its hard to say. I didn't even know this was possible, getting to that cross side position is how I always escape the guillotine and I've never been caught from there. I'm sure Marc practiced his guillotine defence before the fight, but Cody's skill and this unusual variation made it so that he was pretty fucked once he got caught.
Here's a video that was posted on a grappling forum: http://bjjtech.free.fr/?p=183
I've seen a couple others but this seems the closest to what Cody did. The "prayer choke" is also very similar if not the same as this, you can look for that as well. I really want to try this out. My arms always feel too long for guillotines, its natural for my elbow to be more at the windpipe area. Also, the video set-up from top half-guard looked amazing. I'm in that position all the time when I'm looking for a D'arce, this version of the guillotine looks like it fits in very nicely.
It's definitely cutting off the carotid artery. You don't go out that fast from lack of breath.
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edited October 2010
I rooting for Cody all the way now.
Wouldn't it be amazing if he finished his next fight with a Fisherman Choke and then won the finale with one as well? I think I would laugh for a good solid week.
The thing I might love the most about it is the fact that it happens so quickly that dudes don't know they're in trouble and they just go out, without getting the chance to tap.
Ahhh, Dana said this, but it isn't really true. He was in a guillotine, and he knew that was a dangerous spot to be in. He scrambled to get to the cross position on Cody's body, so he was actively countering it.
There's a very good chance though that he didn't expect it to come on that quickly. Guillotines are normally more of a strength move, and they usually take a moment or two to work themselves out. When Marc passed to side he probably thought he'd be fine, thats conventional wisdom in BJJ. He knew it was tight, but all he hand to do was hold on a few more seconds...
Just a nitpick I know, but its really hard to be caught in a choke and not be aware that you're in trouble. A beginner would have tapped no problem. Once you get used to it though, you only tap at the very last second, and if the choke comes on tighter than you expect, thats when you go out. Or, for all we know he's just not the type that taps to chokes. They're out there.
From what I've been reading, actually, it seems it's more that Cody's guillotine just isn't traditional, and the different angle of pressure means that being in the opposite side in side control means he isn't in a 'safe' position as compared to a traditional guillotine. I don't know how true that is, though.
Oh its very true. It isn't traditional at all, the arm placement is quite different. The traditional guillotine is often more of a windchoke, whereas this seems to really target the carotid arteries. Obviously escaping to side doesn't relieve the pressure, it may even increase the pressure, its hard to say. I didn't even know this was possible, getting to that cross side position is how I always escape the guillotine and I've never been caught from there. I'm sure Marc practiced his guillotine defence before the fight, but Cody's skill and this unusual variation made it so that he was pretty fucked once he got caught.
Here's a video that was posted on a grappling forum: http://bjjtech.free.fr/?p=183
I've seen a couple others but this seems the closest to what Cody did. The "prayer choke" is also very similar if not the same as this, you can look for that as well. I really want to try this out. My arms always feel too long for guillotines, its natural for my elbow to be more at the windpipe area. Also, the video set-up from top half-guard looked amazing. I'm in that position all the time when I'm looking for a D'arce, this version of the guillotine looks like it fits in very nicely.
Will is going to be trying this move out in class next week.
Yes, I'm speaking in the 3rd person.
I just got done watching The Rock on some YouTube videos. Sue me.
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edited October 2010
DO YOU SMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL WHAT CHILLYWILLY IS COOKING?
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yeah judging from the first episode, that youtube video pretty much has it right
also after rewatching his fight with killah, that lazy baiting high kick is definitely part of the routine as he opened with it in that fight as well lol
hes clearly put a lot more thought in to this than anyone gave him credit for
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Knowing the result ahead of time only makes watching the episode that much more amusing, I found.
I thought Koscheck was going out with Holly Madison, proving that MMAers who date porn stars are jackasses. see: Ortiz, Tito
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The second fight was just as silly though. GSP's guy gets behind him and just waits for Kos' guy to put his hand to the mat to hold his balance and then slip in the sleeper hold.
This guy is apparently Yoel Romero, and this is (I guess) his second MMA fight. That, my friends, is an amazing throw/takedown/trip/thing.
@Adytum: Indeed, I don't think he had time. He went from weak punches to ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
What the fuck? I demand that that throw/takedown thing should be impossible.
Slick as hell though.
:whistle: Rock-a-bye baby, on the treetop,
When the wind blows, the cradle wil.. :zzz:
Maybe nursery rhymes are Cody's secret.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPiqUzMm9lE
:P
as if it needs to be said again bas is awesome
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12 actually. he got in the house with a guillotine also.
His professional record also doesn't include amateur bouts, so god knows how many more he has under his belt.
2 things.
1. Am I only the only person that thinks Frank just looks and acts like a douche here? I can't be alone.
2. I love how Fedor gives no answer at the end. Hilarious.
the kick he threw was lazy and pretty crap, it was like he was begging for the guy to catch it and go for a takedown
Ahhh, Dana said this, but it isn't really true. He was in a guillotine, and he knew that was a dangerous spot to be in. He scrambled to get to the cross position on Cody's body, so he was actively countering it.
There's a very good chance though that he didn't expect it to come on that quickly. Guillotines are normally more of a strength move, and they usually take a moment or two to work themselves out. When Marc passed to side he probably thought he'd be fine, thats conventional wisdom in BJJ. He knew it was tight, but all he hand to do was hold on a few more seconds...
Just a nitpick I know, but its really hard to be caught in a choke and not be aware that you're in trouble. A beginner would have tapped no problem. Once you get used to it though, you only tap at the very last second, and if the choke comes on tighter than you expect, thats when you go out. Or, for all we know he's just not the type that taps to chokes. They're out there.
I would just call it "The Net".
Oh its very true. It isn't traditional at all, the arm placement is quite different. The traditional guillotine is often more of a windchoke, whereas this seems to really target the carotid arteries. Obviously escaping to side doesn't relieve the pressure, it may even increase the pressure, its hard to say. I didn't even know this was possible, getting to that cross side position is how I always escape the guillotine and I've never been caught from there. I'm sure Marc practiced his guillotine defence before the fight, but Cody's skill and this unusual variation made it so that he was pretty fucked once he got caught.
Here's a video that was posted on a grappling forum:
http://bjjtech.free.fr/?p=183
I've seen a couple others but this seems the closest to what Cody did. The "prayer choke" is also very similar if not the same as this, you can look for that as well. I really want to try this out. My arms always feel too long for guillotines, its natural for my elbow to be more at the windpipe area. Also, the video set-up from top half-guard looked amazing. I'm in that position all the time when I'm looking for a D'arce, this version of the guillotine looks like it fits in very nicely.
Wouldn't it be amazing if he finished his next fight with a Fisherman Choke and then won the finale with one as well? I think I would laugh for a good solid week.
MAKE IT HAPPEN CODY!
My fingers are crossed!
Will is going to be trying this move out in class next week.
Yes, I'm speaking in the 3rd person.
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Oh my god... I didn't even think of that. The laughter would be extended to an entire month!
hes clearly put a lot more thought in to this than anyone gave him credit for
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