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Is there ever any circumstance under which holding a parking space is ok?
The_Spaniard
It's never lupinesIrvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
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I know it is generally considered poor manners and rude for people to hold parking spaces for other people by standing in them. Parking is thought of as a first come first serve thing, and if you are standing in a parking spot holding it for a friend that isn't there yet, well then tough luck for that friend. Though I'm wondering if there is any possible circumstance under which that is okay?
For example last night I was circling the parking lot of my own housing complex for 15 min trying to find a space, which even as a resident can be difficult at times. After a while I finally gave up and parked 2 blocks away. Walking home, when I was within 100 feet of my front door, a couple gets into their car right next to me. Oh shit I thought, here is my chance. I stood on the curb in front of their car and waited for them. They chatted for a bit, and then finally pulled out and left. I immediately jumped into the space and whipped out my phone calling my boyfriend who was at home 100 feet away telling him to come out. I told him to just hold the spot for the two minutes it would take me to run the two blocks and speed over. I booked it like hell and as I was getting to my car door I heard someone screaming my name. It was my boyfriend about a block back running after me. Apparently seconds after I took off he said somebody else came along and he immediately cowed to their request that he give them the spot. Now after a really shitty night, this whole parking thing being the least of it, I finally cracked and lost my temper for .5 seconds. That's how long it took me to scream and hurl my keys at the floor, before I went, "Oh shit..." and realized I'd just shattered a 500 dollar electronic key.
Anyway so the question is as follows. While normally it is considered rude for somebody to hold a parking spot for somebody else, first come first serve and all that jazz, I had already circled the lot for an extended period of time, parked blocks away, walked all the way home, came across somebody leaving, waited for them to leave, and claimed the spot for myself using my boyfriend as a traffic cone to run while I ran off and took all of 2 minutes to park my car there. I mean I did come across somebody pulling out and waited for them to leave, the only difference was that I wasn't currently in my car, which would have taken 2 minutes to put into that space, and had I run off while the people were taking their time in pulling out, I would have come back in time with my car to park there. Was that an acceptable circumstance of what is usually a frowned upon practice?
For example last night I was circling the parking lot of my own housing complex for 15 min trying to find a space, which even as a resident can be difficult at times. After a while I finally gave up and parked 2 blocks away. Walking home, when I was within 100 feet of my front door, a couple gets into their car right next to me. Oh shit I thought, here is my chance. I stood on the curb in front of their car and waited for them. They chatted for a bit, and then finally pulled out and left. I immediately jumped into the space and whipped out my phone calling my boyfriend who was at home 100 feet away telling him to come out. I told him to just hold the spot for the two minutes it would take me to run the two blocks and speed over. I booked it like hell and as I was getting to my car door I heard someone screaming my name. It was my boyfriend about a block back running after me. Apparently seconds after I took off he said somebody else came along and he immediately cowed to their request that he give them the spot. Now after a really shitty night, this whole parking thing being the least of it, I finally cracked and lost my temper for .5 seconds. That's how long it took me to scream and hurl my keys at the floor, before I went, "Oh shit..." and realized I'd just shattered a 500 dollar electronic key.
Anyway so the question is as follows. While normally it is considered rude for somebody to hold a parking spot for somebody else, first come first serve and all that jazz, I had already circled the lot for an extended period of time, parked blocks away, walked all the way home, came across somebody leaving, waited for them to leave, and claimed the spot for myself using my boyfriend as a traffic cone to run while I ran off and took all of 2 minutes to park my car there. I mean I did come across somebody pulling out and waited for them to leave, the only difference was that I wasn't currently in my car, which would have taken 2 minutes to put into that space, and had I run off while the people were taking their time in pulling out, I would have come back in time with my car to park there. Was that an acceptable circumstance of what is usually a frowned upon practice?
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I very simply didn't know if they were just going to hop in and pull away in seconds or spend 5 minutes blabbing and doing whatever.
People are not cars. Parking spots are not for standing in.
The fact that you weren't there in your car means first come first serve doesn't apply to you. Well, it does, just not in the way you would like it to.
I hate when people hold limited parking spaces for others as if that person somehow deserves it more by virtue of knowing someone currently not in a car.
Haha, I think you'd be best served (if they have super car-blocking skills and obstruct you from pulling partway in) double-parking the empty space. Want to stand in a parking spot while I sit in my car recording your refusal to move on my cell phone and call the police? Go for it.
My point is, you can't use the fact that you found them and waited for them to leave as a reason that the spot should have been yours unless you had your car with you. If, while you were waiting for them to leave, someone else driving around looking for parking noticed them and waited for them to leave, I don't think you would have had a claim to the spot. What are you going to do, say, "I saw those people first"? You don't have your car with you, so it doesn't matter.
This just occurred to me too.
You were already home. The reason of parking closer was nonexistent at that point anyway.
I guess you could want to have less of a distance to walk to the car when you leave. But still, half-gone anyway.
if you're breaking shit over a matter of a coupla blocks, i dunno, some introspection might be in order
It's like gambling; in every driver's mind, the guy ahead of you who took that one open spot is like someone reaching over while the casino guy isn't looking and flicking the roulette ball off your number onto his.
This right here. By improving something, you earn the right to use it, at least temporarily, except in strong extenuating circumstances.
Our city actually has a law against saving spots, except in extreme situations, like massive snowfall.
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Maybe i'm responding to douchebaggery with even more douchebaggery...but that ends it doesn't it? Unless you think they're going to key your car or something.
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I imagine you could get in trouble for deliberately hitting someone with your car, even if it was just a love tap.
And there's always the possibility that they fall and break their ankle or something.
Standing, no. But have you never experienced the chairs, cones, furniture, and other whatever the fuck people use to hold their spaces in the winter?
it differs by neighborhood, but a lot of people around here are serious about their parking
I've done it a few times, when we were in the city and it was a) stand outside, or b) circle for X hours, particularly if it's late or we had bags. This was when we were still looking for a spot; we'd never bother if we had found one like the OT.
To me it's acceptable because you're standing in line, and outside, vs. the possible other driver who is in the comfort of their vehicle. Similar to waiting outside Best Buy for a $100 TV or whatever. If someone had pulled up and said, "I gotta take shit NOW/my wife's pregnant, etc!" I would have moved.
There's a solution to this. Go inside.
It sure drives me crazy when I'm travelling and I dont know where the hell I can park. When I went to Boston this summer I was all like '' woaaa man this city looks so nice, so much nice shit to do... now where can I find a fucking parking space so I can actually enjoy the place'' Once I finally found a parking place, I loved the rest of my stay
I've done the Stick My Stuff On a Table To Hold It thing in college, because everyone did it, and I never really thought much about it. I figure the first-come-first-serve rule is defined by social norms, and if the norm is "first come" means when you get into the room, and not after you've gotten your food, the upshot isn't much different. I mean, assuming you don't spend thirty minutes getting your food. But shit, sometimes you can by carrying a lot of crap around in college, and it's heavy as fuck, and it's nice to be able to just drop it on a table somewhere.
:P I would go inside, but there's no place to park.
Should I put this in the neuroses thread instead? Because it bugs me.
No it's still incredibly fucking rude. If I saw your boyfriend trying to hold a spot without a car, I would have laughed at him. That shit is just flat out unacceptable.
Anyways, you were already parked. Why should the dude that found a parking spot (and your boyfriend) be sent off to find another one while you were already sitting on a perfectly good spot?
It's bad enough when people drive all around the parking lot trying to find the one perfect spot when they could've already been in the store had they just pulled into one of the fifty parking spots they're apparently too good for. Me, I generally pull into the parking lot, make a token drive by the front of the store in case I'm lucky, then pick an aisle and pull into the first space I see, no matter how far out it is. Unless there's some serious wrath-of-God type weather out, then I may make a second pass.
when it comes to driving and parking that is very low on my anger scale....and rarely happens anyways.
I'm a little confused about your living arrangements though.
Most places I know if you live there you have a parking spot that is yours.
I know people in heavy traffic areas who put cones on their parking parking spot when they are leaving in the morning.
And also the snow-shoveling thing. I shovel my parking spot at my apartment and it is clearly mine. The few times people have taken it I've parked somewhere else and left a note under their wiper blade. My parking spot was always waiting for me by the next time I came home form work.
this is exactly what I do and I mock every one of my friends who do the multiple passes looking for a really close spot
then again, sometimes this bites me in the ass because florida weather can go from sunny to nightmarish hellstorm in the time it takes to get groceries