He expected nothing less of Cain, said Cain was better than him on the night and when asked if he was going to go back to the drawing board and learn from his mistakes said "That's what a champion does, right?".
Cain landed multiple concussive blows (plus a few to the back of the head) that left Brock stunned and dazed. He wasn't out, but Cain just didn't give him time to recover, despite Lesnar's effort to get away with a double ballet spin.
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You know what? I suspect Brock might have worked *too much* on striking this time and not enough on his wrestling. He unfortunately couldn't keep Cain down and welp.
i mean, is the new goal post unconsciousness? come on, man
Well he should try knocking someone at a high level out without landing a counterpunch on a power strike or without chasing down someone who's stunned by shots to the back of the head.
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You know what? I suspect Brock might have worked *too much* on striking this time and not enough on his wrestling. He unfortunately couldn't keep Cain down and welp.
At this point I'm sure he doesn't need to work on his wrestling too much, he's already in the top .0001% of all wrestlers. I don't know how him working on wrestling more would have helped him. Maybe working on his Jits?
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Pssst Joe! It's not "The Ultimate Warriors" it's "The Deadliest Warrior"!
You know what? I suspect Brock might have worked *too much* on striking this time and not enough on his wrestling. He unfortunately couldn't keep Cain down and welp.
At this point I'm sure he doesn't need to work on his wrestling too much, he's already in the top .0001% of all wrestlers. I don't know how him working on wrestling more would have helped him. Maybe working on his Jits?
He still needs to work on his wrestling. Randy outgrappled him, Cain outwrestled him, heck it seemed like Carwin even outwrestled him.
It's just the limits of Brock, and his ability to screw himself over. It happened in the WWF, it happened in the NFL, and now it happened here.
i mean, is the new goal post unconsciousness? come on, man
Well he should try knocking someone at a high level out without landing a counterpunch on a power strike or without chasing down someone who's stunned by shots to the back of the head.
so, eight (t)ko stoppages (out of nine matches), six first round, two knock outs of the night... and he hits with 'pillows'? the only reason he manages it is because he's a good counter puncher? because he hits a lot in rapid possession? because he has superior positioning?
that's quite a reach.
all of these things are fed by having some pep behind your strikes. there are plenty of fighters who have their haymakers countered all the time that don't result in KOs; the rapidity and positioning of the punches is often set up by, surprise, the previous punches.
if you sent a 'pillow handed' striker in there they wouldn't manage to stumble and stun half the guys they face in order to get those stoppages that are allegedly unrelated to the strength of his blows.
i mean, is the new goal post unconsciousness? come on, man
Well he should try knocking someone at a high level out without landing a counterpunch on a power strike or without chasing down someone who's stunned by shots to the back of the head.
so, eight (t)ko stoppages (out of nine matches), six first round, two knock outs of the night... and he hits with 'pillows'? the only reason he manages it is because he's a good counter puncher? because he hits a lot in rapid possession? because he has superior positioning?
that's quite a reach.
all of these things are fed by having some pep behind your strikes. there are plenty of fighters who have their haymakers countered all the time that don't result in KOs; the rapidity and positioning of the punches is often set up by, surprise, the previous punches.
if you sent a 'pillow handed' striker in there they wouldn't manage to stumble and stun half the guys they face in order to get those stoppages that are allegedly unrelated to the strength of his blows.
He's a technical striker, not a power puncher, is the point.
i mean, is the new goal post unconsciousness? come on, man
Well he should try knocking someone at a high level out without landing a counterpunch on a power strike or without chasing down someone who's stunned by shots to the back of the head.
so, eight (t)ko stoppages (out of nine matches), six first round, two knock outs of the night... and he hits with 'pillows'? the only reason he manages it is because he's a good counter puncher? because he hits a lot in rapid possession? because he has superior positioning?
that's quite a reach.
all of these things are fed by having some pep behind your strikes. there are plenty of fighters who have their haymakers countered all the time that don't result in KOs; the rapidity and positioning of the punches is often set up by, surprise, the previous punches.
if you sent a 'pillow handed' striker in there they wouldn't manage to stumble and stun half the guys they face in order to get those stoppages that are allegedly unrelated to the strength of his blows.
He's a technical striker, not a power puncher, is the point.
Technical strikers can get knockouts too, yes.
i'm not saying he has a dynamite right and that everyone should stay away from it and he should register his hands as destructive devices with the ATF
but he's not winning protracted, 3-rd decisions with good landing percentages. he's rendering dudes senseless. he's technically competent but he doesn't have 'pillow' hands. frankie edgar is an example of a pure technical striker; cain has both.
I'm not saying he has a dynamite right and that everyone should stay away from it and he should register his hands as destructive devices with the ATF
but he's not winning protracted, 3-rd decisions with good landing percentages. he's rendering dudes senseless. he's technically competent but he doesn't have 'pillow' hands. frankie edgar is an example of a pure technical striker; cain.
The difference is that he's a technical striker at heavyweight.
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Well, so much for what I thought of Brock's cihn
God. They covered it up and it just opened itself up. Geez.
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Champions work hard and come back from losses. Cain was the better man today *Paraphrase*
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He expected nothing less of Cain, said Cain was better than him on the night and when asked if he was going to go back to the drawing board and learn from his mistakes said "That's what a champion does, right?".
i knew i had a tough challenge ahead of me, congrats to cain... he was the better man tonight, what else can i say?
(then when asked if he'd go back to the drawing board and come back stronger: ) yeah, well, that's what a champ does, right?
Cain landed multiple concussive blows (plus a few to the back of the head) that left Brock stunned and dazed. He wasn't out, but Cain just didn't give him time to recover, despite Lesnar's effort to get away with a double ballet spin.
i thought becoming a pro fighter would make him work out some more
those blows were concussive alright
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At this point I'm sure he doesn't need to work on his wrestling too much, he's already in the top .0001% of all wrestlers. I don't know how him working on wrestling more would have helped him. Maybe working on his Jits?
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How about the gif in where you see Lesnar already dressed up for Halloween as the Kool Aid Man after the fight with the huge cut on his face?
... You know, I'll just link the whole fight in where Cain stands up from every takedown Lesnar does and basically takes Lesnar apart piece by piece.
It's just the limits of Brock, and his ability to screw himself over. It happened in the WWF, it happened in the NFL, and now it happened here.
He was spinning after an uppercut to the temple, after taking shots to the back of the head.
Glancing blows can cause cuts.
You should just link to the parts where Brock tries to recover but can't because of shots to the back of the head.
so, eight (t)ko stoppages (out of nine matches), six first round, two knock outs of the night... and he hits with 'pillows'? the only reason he manages it is because he's a good counter puncher? because he hits a lot in rapid possession? because he has superior positioning?
that's quite a reach.
all of these things are fed by having some pep behind your strikes. there are plenty of fighters who have their haymakers countered all the time that don't result in KOs; the rapidity and positioning of the punches is often set up by, surprise, the previous punches.
if you sent a 'pillow handed' striker in there they wouldn't manage to stumble and stun half the guys they face in order to get those stoppages that are allegedly unrelated to the strength of his blows.
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Technical strikers can get knockouts too, yes.
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i'm not saying he has a dynamite right and that everyone should stay away from it and he should register his hands as destructive devices with the ATF
but he's not winning protracted, 3-rd decisions with good landing percentages. he's rendering dudes senseless. he's technically competent but he doesn't have 'pillow' hands. frankie edgar is an example of a pure technical striker; cain has both.
At least this means that Brock and Mir will probably have their rubber match.
You hear that, 'nichu? Frank Mir is going to get his ass beat by Brock one more time.