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[The Hobbit] Rough cut is in the wild!
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Yeah, you didn't answer my question.
I understand you think they weren't great. I'm just curious as to why.
I'm not being augmentative, I'm genuinely curious. I've heard this a fair amount, but I've never heard anyone support it.
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Your math is bad.
He turns 50 during the barrel ride. The Fellowship opens 61 years later but Frodo doesn't leave for another 17, so Gollum is 78 years older.
Not closely yet, but I plan to remedy that lack this week.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
There's no indication at all Warner requested that. I'm iffy on National making changes as well but we'll see what happens.
If anyone comes out of this situation looking good though, it'll be National. This is a PR nightmare for the unions and Labour and the Greens will be dragged down with them through association.
Yup. There are a lot of people who regret the repeal of the Employment Contracts Act in 2001( or was it 99?) and who, despite a very quiet 15 years for industrial relations are of the firm belief unions undermine the economy. I think they were already keen to review the law further and now they have a great excuse. Which is not unlike what is happening in the UK with the BA strike
Yeah I googled around after that post, that's what I get for assuming what mum said was right.
The greens could play this well to people who are already sympathetic, but I'm not sure about that.
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Yep.
In 3-D!
I will also restate a vote for a different looking gollum. pre torture, pre losing the ring which would have a huge effect
That was an early idea, but I'm fairly certain the plan now is to tell The Hobbit over two movies, with both movies being heavily embellished by events occurring at or around the same time, as stated in the Indices.
Is this from any particular source? I hadn't heard this as a possibility (not saying its not). Not sure how I feel about it; similar trepidation as my feelings for filming in 3-D I guess.
Edit: there is this ambiguous statement:
Still, it might be a broad interpretation of "Hobbit films". But it might work out alright as well. 3-D I don't really care for.
This is from over a year ago, but as far as I know it's still the plan.
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Informed insight? Or hopeful speculation? I guess we'll know soon; production starts in a little over three months.
Until someone says otherwise, I'd expect The Hobbit to be on a similar maturity level as the rest of the LOTR films.
Given that there's probably going to be a lot of talky-talk with Gandalf's comings and goings behind the scenes with the Council and whatnot, plus Smaug destroying everything and the Battle of Five Armies, it's probably going to be a bit grown up.
But hey, there's always the Rankin-Bass films for your kid to enjoy.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't a noldor.
source: Battle for Middle Earth 2
Yeah they didn't get the level up from being in the land of bliss.
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Ok, he'd been without his precious for years and had been, you know, tortured for an inhuman length of time by unspeakable darkness. So I can accept he'd look different in the Hobbit.
But he still spent the majority of his lifespan living in a sunless cave eating raw fish. I seem to recall in the LOTR movies we got to see him relishing in his diet of choice with a dentist's nightmare for teeth.
I...suppose they could make him pudgier or something?
L|ama: Chances are, anyone that are actually backing the union are already staunch Labour or Green supporters anyway. The only thing this is going to do is drive 'independents' away from Labour, because Actors Equity were run by incompetent morons.
Anyway, good news: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10683486
So they came for a rebate of $15 mill per film and unspecified law changes to Employment law? Interesting
Edit - HAHAHA - the reporter just asked Key something along the lines of "If we change our employment law at the behest of Warner Brothers do we come out of this with any dignity?"
Beorn - Michael Fassbender?
Bard - ?
Thranduil - David Tennant?
Elrond - hopefully Hugo Weaving
Ori, Nori, Bofur, and Bifur - ?
The town master - ?
Bolg - ?
That's not many. Hopefully this union thing was the final roadblock to progress, and we'll get an announcement soon. Don't hold your breath, however; Viggo Mortensen didn't join the cast until two weeks after start of photography, when his part had to be recast.
The Voice of Smaug: Bill Nighy? Brian Cox?
Thror and Thrain: I imagine there will be flashbacks, and Gandalf does get the map from Thrain in the Necromancer's dungeon.
Radaghast: If they adapt material from the Appendices, Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, he'll show up.
Saruman: If Radaghast he'd have to be, hopefully Christopher Lee, but who knows if he can still make the trip to New Zealand.
The Necromancer: I'm not really sure what they're gonna do here.
Gwaihir, Eagles: Dunno
The Trolls
Most of the other roles left are just voices, so those might not be forthcoming.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
I would agree that del Toro gets better performances out of his actors, but I wouldn't say much better, as Jackson does a pretty decent job. Jackson isn't as subtle as del Toro, that's the biggest difference.
But del Toro has a nasty habit of letting the story get away from him, and putting much more emphasis on the tactility of the world within the movie than on tone and character. I really thought having both Jackson and del Toro together on the project was a great idea, as they complemented each other's faults but bolstered each other's strengths. However, if I had to choose just one of them to work on the project, it would indeed be Jackson.
Good to hear it's all on-track
and glad to hear Jackson and not Del Toro is on the job. I think Del Toro is the man and makes some great films, but I just had a bad feeling about him directing the Hobbit. And while the guy is brilliant when it comes to visuals he's made enough average films (the Hellboys) to make me not fully trust him. Jackson has his weaknesses to be sure... but I wouldn't trust anyone else!
What I don't get is some of the casting choices!
Heres a great site to match up faces to the names you already know!
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2010/10/21/39468-meet-your-hobbit-cast/
Thorin, Kili, and Fili...
WTF?
Not a single one strikes me as proper casting. They just look absolutely nothing like dwarves. Hopefully they slap some major makeup on them pretty faces.
This image proves its possible I guess..
Although I hate to say it, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to sexy up the dwarves. But I understand it as much as I hate it, more sex appeal would mean more $$$. A movie staring a bunch of ugly dwarfs and a chunky hobbit would certainly be missing it's Orlando/Viggo panty soaking draw.
SIGH!
Image by Sharpwriter on deviantart.com
Also, this is WETA Workshop.
BILL NIGHY – THE VOICE OF SMAUG
...oh my god
also all the casting looks great to me to be honest. any given one of them could probably be older but make up can do some amazing things.
The surprise gift they gave out to everyone who sat through the entire trilogy (extended editions, for the first two!) when Return of the King came out.
Man, I can't wait for the Hobbit.