So it wasn't a first date, but I took my girl to Medieval Times for the first time and she LOVED it. Based upon her reaction, I would say that the potential for it to be a good first date is very high... but expensive (still comparable to dinner/movie though).
I live in an expensive place to live, and going out to eat for dinner is usually $15-30 for two, less drinks. No, I'm not talking crappy chains either, though they aren't really fancy places. Find good thai restaurants around, or a small italian place, or a nice cafe. I dunno, the idea of spending over $50 on a meal for two seems silly to me.
Man I spent 80 bucks in Boston for the train both ways, dinner for two at a non-chain place, and the Aquarium. Spending 70 bucks on one dinner for 2 sounds like such a rip off.
Well, the $50 is for a sit-down dinner thing. Usually on a first date (and hell, a few more after that) I prefer to head to a good mexican place or food cart/stand, get something, and walk and talk somewhere, maybe find a bench to eat and the like.
There is a broad range of prices in food. Much like the broad range of quality in food. Sure, I can go out on a date and only spend about 10-15 per person, or that number can get into the 30+ per person range. It just depends on what we happen to be craving, what atmosphere we're going for, etc. I'm hardly Mr. Moneybags, but I don't usually pay for everything on a first date anyway (benefit to being gay? I dunno). At the end of the day, it's not really about the cost of the meal (or date in general) for me. It's about going somewhere with someone I'm interested in and doing something fun with them. Being hung up about money isn't going to make the evening very enjoyable.
Then again, neither is spending outside your comfort zone. So you know, like everything, do what works for you. Geez.
Man I spent 80 bucks in Boston for the train both ways, dinner for two at a non-chain place, and the Aquarium. Spending 70 bucks on one dinner for 2 sounds like such a rip off.
Guy from Boston is saying it's a ripoff. I'm sorry, but that's almost conclusive? I mean, I get Indy isn't expensive living, but 70 bucks better include sex if I'm forking that over.
I could easily run up a $70 tab for two without trying in Indy. In fact, I have. (Cincinnati here, but I get to Indy from time to time.) That said, I could also not. Much like I said above.
I mean, Justin is saying he rode the train (a few bucks), had dinner (not sure how much), and went to the Aquarium (I know the one we have here is like $18 per person). So...yeah.
Less drinks is part health - it's carb-heavy - and part finance. A mixed drink in NYC will run $8-9, a pint about $6. More if you go for more "exotic" brews, as I do.
Yeah but if we're talking about cost it's like saying "less tax & tip." A bottle of wine will up the bill something like $25 ($20 + tax + tip) easily, and even if you just get a glass of something each it's going to be like ordering another entree.
I mean we're not really arguing about finding the cheapest date options right now, so excluding things seems a bit moot.
Honestly, I'm not really sure what we're arguing about. Person goes on date that some find to be exorbitant in cost, and some other people say "That seems about right." As far as I can tell, people are just irritated that their opinion isn't universal?
Except for the part where I clarified that I don't just make this decision in a vacuum. Dates are these funny situations where you actually talk to the person you're spending time with, so figuring out if that person would like a drink with dinner isn't exactly like solving some sort of complex code.
Honestly, I'm not really sure what we're arguing about. Person goes on date that some find to be exorbitant in cost, and some other people say "That seems about right." As far as I can tell, people are just irritated that their opinion isn't universal?
Apparently. I mean, sheesh, I never said that's how much you should spend. I go on plenty of cheap dates, too.
I think some people don't have a concept of what great food really is, though, and that's a part of it. Like, yeah, I'm aware I can eat for less at other places, but there is a correlation between price and quality, shockingly. Is it perfect? No. But if you want, say, Michelin-star quality food, be prepared to drop $100 per person for a meal.
I just don't get it -- everyone understands that you can get a car that will take you from A to B for $3000, but hardly anyone bats an eye if someone decides to spend ten times that so that they can drive an Audi.
Maybe it's just because Americans generally have bad palettes.
edit: and I think a wide range of prices is acceptable for a first date. But, yeah, you might score a few points if you don't seem like a cheapskate right out of the gate. Dropping $50-$100 on a first date probably will make a better impression, unless the cheap/free thing you're doing is particularly creative or sweet.
Nobody's saying that all first dates should be at expensive restaurants. I've had first dates where the only expenditure was gas to get wherever we were going, and I've had dates where we both shelled out a hundred bucks for an amusement park (granted for the latter we'd been internet acquaintances for a while prior. Still, though!)
And yes, a lot of first dates are duds. But that doesn't mean every first date has to be a cheap-as-hell carbon copy of every other first date. If you think there's at least a moderately high chance that you won't actively dislike the other person then it's ok to risk an activity that costs some money, because even if you don't make a love connection you'll at least have gotten to do something fun. I find going to an amusement park more fun if you have someone with you than alone, and if my choices are "first date guy" and "nobody," guess what... I'll take first date guy.
Same thing for good tapas, or high quality east coast sushi, or yakiniku. Sometimes I'm in the mood for diner food and we might go somewhere where I pay $6 for a club sandwich. Sometimes I'm not hungry and I'll pay 75c for a cup of tea. And sometimes we both want to go see Avenue Q so we pay $85 each.
If I was talking to a guy who didn't seem terribly interesting and he suggested we go to Morimoto (the restaurant in Philly that is run by the former Iron Chef), I'd probably say no. But I've always wanted to go there... and never had the chance. I'd be very tempted if someone really interesting suggested it. Because, as the OP said... at the very least I would have the experience of the food.
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As an example of her bitch attitude, there was this one incident where one girl couldn't afford an express pass for halloween horror nights last month and she straight up told her if she was too poor to buy an express pass then don't bother going because she probably wasn't going to be able to afford having a good time in the park anyway. Needless to say the girl didn't go.
She's pretty cool though, she's attractive and trains in MMA. You would never guess it though just by looking at her. She's a girly girl.
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As an example of her bitch attitude, there was this one incident where one girl couldn't afford an express pass for halloween horror nights last month and she straight up told her if she was too poor to buy an express pass then don't bother going because she probably wasn't going to be able to afford having a good time in the park anyway.
That doesn't seem bitchy to me, that seems realistic
Also, there was one time where my friend was driving by on the street, and he honked and put his hand out the window as he was coming by, to give me a high five it seemed. I reached out to slap his hand but she immediately pulled me back, and I just missed it. She claims if our hands would have touched it would have really fucking hurt and probably broken my arm. Worse, if our hands would have somehow got tangled I would have been dragged down the street a bit. Was she right?
As an example of her bitch attitude, there was this one incident where one girl couldn't afford an express pass for halloween horror nights last month and she straight up told her if she was too poor to buy an express pass then don't bother going because she probably wasn't going to be able to afford having a good time in the park anyway.
That doesn't seem bitchy to me, that seems realistic
Really? You'd just tell someone "You're too poor to hang out with us" to their face?
Although that Halloween pass thing was pretty epically bitchy. Don't talk to someone about how poor they are, like they're some sort of scum. If I'd been in the other girl's position (heh), I woulda had your lady crying by the time I was done talking to her.
Although that Halloween pass thing was pretty epically bitchy. Don't talk to someone about how poor they are, like they're some sort of scum. If I'd been in the other girl's position (heh), I woulda had your lady crying by the time I was done talking to her.
It was a 25 mph zone, but I doubt he was going to speed limit, I'd say anywhere from 30 to 40 mph
Although that Halloween pass thing was pretty epically bitchy. Don't talk to someone about how poor they are, like they're some sort of scum. If I'd been in the other girl's position (heh), I woulda had your lady crying by the time I was done talking to her.
I have actually never seen this girl cry.
The only emotions in fact I've ever seen on her are happy, confused, normal, chill, stoic/pissed off. Bad sign?
Although that Halloween pass thing was pretty epically bitchy. Don't talk to someone about how poor they are, like they're some sort of scum. If I'd been in the other girl's position (heh), I woulda had your lady crying by the time I was done talking to her.
I have actually never seen this girl cry.
The only emotions in fact I've ever seen on her are happy, confused, normal, chill, stoic/pissed off. Bad sign?
Yeah, I'd say it could be a bad sign... but only if you've known her for a long time, and seen her in situations where crying would not only be reasonable, but the natural reaction of a human being.
At the very least, it seems like you're dating a real, genuine dickhead. However, yes, that high-five would've done Something Bad to you.
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I think he's trying to say that price isn't necessarily an indicator of quality
maybe it's just because i live in the NYC metro area, but 75 bones for dinner for two is DIRT CHEAP. and if it was awesome cuban food, great!
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Eh. I know a couple decent places that I've taken dates to that were $50 for 2, less drinks.
EDIT: Though, granted, Brooklyn.
I live in an expensive place to live, and going out to eat for dinner is usually $15-30 for two, less drinks. No, I'm not talking crappy chains either, though they aren't really fancy places. Find good thai restaurants around, or a small italian place, or a nice cafe. I dunno, the idea of spending over $50 on a meal for two seems silly to me.
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Then again, neither is spending outside your comfort zone. So you know, like everything, do what works for you. Geez.
Guy from Boston is saying it's a ripoff. I'm sorry, but that's almost conclusive? I mean, I get Indy isn't expensive living, but 70 bucks better include sex if I'm forking that over.
I mean, Justin is saying he rode the train (a few bucks), had dinner (not sure how much), and went to the Aquarium (I know the one we have here is like $18 per person). So...yeah.
But seriously, what's this "less drinks" thing. Y'all teetotalers?
edit: Also, I only drink alcohol on a date if my date is as well. It just seems polite.
I mean we're not really arguing about finding the cheapest date options right now, so excluding things seems a bit moot.
She probably thought the same thing, and now neither of you can drink even though you both want too.
And I'm perfectly happy either way.
oh snap! good call
Apparently. I mean, sheesh, I never said that's how much you should spend. I go on plenty of cheap dates, too.
I think some people don't have a concept of what great food really is, though, and that's a part of it. Like, yeah, I'm aware I can eat for less at other places, but there is a correlation between price and quality, shockingly. Is it perfect? No. But if you want, say, Michelin-star quality food, be prepared to drop $100 per person for a meal.
I just don't get it -- everyone understands that you can get a car that will take you from A to B for $3000, but hardly anyone bats an eye if someone decides to spend ten times that so that they can drive an Audi.
Maybe it's just because Americans generally have bad palettes.
edit: and I think a wide range of prices is acceptable for a first date. But, yeah, you might score a few points if you don't seem like a cheapskate right out of the gate. Dropping $50-$100 on a first date probably will make a better impression, unless the cheap/free thing you're doing is particularly creative or sweet.
And yes, a lot of first dates are duds. But that doesn't mean every first date has to be a cheap-as-hell carbon copy of every other first date. If you think there's at least a moderately high chance that you won't actively dislike the other person then it's ok to risk an activity that costs some money, because even if you don't make a love connection you'll at least have gotten to do something fun. I find going to an amusement park more fun if you have someone with you than alone, and if my choices are "first date guy" and "nobody," guess what... I'll take first date guy.
Same thing for good tapas, or high quality east coast sushi, or yakiniku. Sometimes I'm in the mood for diner food and we might go somewhere where I pay $6 for a club sandwich. Sometimes I'm not hungry and I'll pay 75c for a cup of tea. And sometimes we both want to go see Avenue Q so we pay $85 each.
If I was talking to a guy who didn't seem terribly interesting and he suggested we go to Morimoto (the restaurant in Philly that is run by the former Iron Chef), I'd probably say no. But I've always wanted to go there... and never had the chance. I'd be very tempted if someone really interesting suggested it. Because, as the OP said... at the very least I would have the experience of the food.
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Seriously though, that's really hard to say without knowing the details.
She's pretty cool though, she's attractive and trains in MMA. You would never guess it though just by looking at her. She's a girly girl.
That doesn't seem bitchy to me, that seems realistic
Really? You'd just tell someone "You're too poor to hang out with us" to their face?
Maybe I'm just too nice?
Although that Halloween pass thing was pretty epically bitchy. Don't talk to someone about how poor they are, like they're some sort of scum. If I'd been in the other girl's position (heh), I woulda had your lady crying by the time I was done talking to her.
It was a 25 mph zone, but I doubt he was going to speed limit, I'd say anywhere from 30 to 40 mph
I have actually never seen this girl cry.
The only emotions in fact I've ever seen on her are happy, confused, normal, chill, stoic/pissed off. Bad sign?
edit: Though I will say, she probably could have been a bit more diplomatic in how she presented the "you can't afford this" issue.
Yeah, I'd say it could be a bad sign... but only if you've known her for a long time, and seen her in situations where crying would not only be reasonable, but the natural reaction of a human being.
At the very least, it seems like you're dating a real, genuine dickhead. However, yes, that high-five would've done Something Bad to you.
No fucking way, a paintball moves faster than that. Sure, it's smaller, but a hand is also small and thin and the contact area is well spread out.
How fast do two hands approach each other on average when you high five someone?