I dunno, Hanoi seems to have good LOS for snipers. So does the map with the beach, whatever that's called.
EDIT: Hah, AK-74u is my new best friend. Not great from a distance, but it can get the job done.
Scat is basically wrong again. Array, WMD, Radiation, Jungle, and Havana all have room for sniping. But it's pretty limited on everything but Array, WMD, and Jungle.
Honestly, I agree with Scat. All those maps you're talking about have room to snipe, but few of them have places where sniping is more effective than just using an AR.
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I dislike that there are only three guns in the game.
The AK-74u
The Assult Rifle
And the What the fuck are you using, quit doing it wrong.
You can use any gun you want that's not a sniper rifle and kill people fine in this game.
My dual wielded PM63 class rips people up
That's what I mean when I say all the guns are exactly the same.
Shotguns.
Man, you're just trying to find problems with this game.
I....
I covered shotguns...
Also, Scat, I went to a concert Friday night and opening band was some total weeaboo shit, but they were actually pretty good, too. Ogre You Asshole, do you know of them?
I wish killstreaks were tied to class. It's annoying to be using hardline pro most of the time and then switching to a different class and suddenly have bad killstreaks.
I wish killstreaks were tied to class. It's annoying to be using hardline pro most of the time and then switching to a different class and suddenly have bad killstreaks.
Yeah. Having separate killstreaks for every custom slot is something I've wanted forever.
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personally my tactic to deal with dropshotters is explained thusly:
prelim: enemy and I encounter face to face
1) enemy dropshots
2)a. I stafeshot so he can no longer shoot me, I kill dropshotter
2)b. (optional) I die
3) I dust myself off and continue on as normal
it seems the people who endlessly bitch on internet forums deal with dropshotters in this way:
prelim: enemy and I encounter face to face
1) enemy dropshots
2) I stand still and shoot above the dropshotter's head then I die
3) I endlessly bitch about it on internet forums
Alternatively:
1) I come face to face with an enemy
2) We both immediately flop to the ground shooting
3) I kill him
4) I get up and still think it's a stupid way to play the game
I know it may sound crazy, but it's possible to not be getting killed by something regularly and still think it's a stupid practice that detracts from the game. Saying "lol suck less kthx" over and over is a juvenile response.
I wasn't saying "lol suck less kthx" so don't be doing silly juvenile debating tactics kthx. I'm actually closer to saying "lol deal with it kthx" except I actually gave a way to deal with it so it'd be even closer to "deal with it, here's how: ... but also accept the fact that sometimes you actually get outgunned and there really isn't much you can do about that."
notice the lack of lol's and kthx's in that response, that was intentional. Having those in your response is very similar when in real life you mock imitate someone you find annoying by intentionally doing an impression that sounds really stupid and the target of your disdain doesn't actually sound like, all in an effort to make them sound that much more annoying.
So please if you could take all the herp and derp out of your future posts then we can discuss this topic civilly and like that of grownups.
lol kthxbye
Please. You don't get to dismiss everyone's well reasoned arguments as "endless internet bitching" and then try and act like some beacon of civility. You might not have said "suck less kthx", but when the copy-paste response to anyone who brings it up boils down to "shoot them more", it's hardly constructive.
I'm ready for ~4 maps with open sightlines, so that we can finally start using the sniper rifles.
I would not mind this in the slightest. The maps we have right now are pretty decent overall, but they all seem really close-quarters. I don't have a single custom class right now with a sniper rifle or an ACOG, just because there are no maps open enough to warrant it.
what part of my response was copy-pasted? Am I not allowed to give step-by-step instructions on how to deal with dropshotting? Also what part of it boils down to "shoot them more?"
There is nothing wrong with going prone and shooting.
There is nothing unbalanced about doing it because you have the ability to do it to just the same effect as anyone and everyone else.
I don't do it, I personally don't like it when people do it, I'm not saying "lol I'm bettar than jooos!1" or "lol dakka dakka dem boysz wit' more WAAAUUUGGGHHHH." I even agree that it is dumb. BUT rather than bitch about it endlessly (how many pages has this back and forth been?) I proposed a solution for dealing with it that works sometimes.
what else is left to do? To what end does complaining about it serve? I'm trying real hard to not put words in your mouth, but I mean here's the FORTRAN play-by-play of this discussion:
00 killed by dropshot
01 complain on forum about dropshot
02 receive a proposed solution by people on forum
03 reject proposed solution, call proposer names
04 GOTO 01
The source of my hyperbolic assertion that you "complain about it endlessly online" is clearly demonstrated on line 04.
I'm not arguing whether your opinion that "dropshotting is silly" is right or wrong, I'm just wondering why my proposed solution is not good enough for you and/or why my proposed solution is an insult to your intelligence and your dignity?
On an entirely other note, can someone explain to me how the theatre works? I'd like to compile a montage of awesome moments, which I assure you fine gentlemen will be done so ironically, but I'm not entirely certain what my best approach should be? How do all the tryhards on youtube do it?
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I wish killstreaks were tied to class. It's annoying to be using hardline pro most of the time and then switching to a different class and suddenly have bad killstreaks.
Also, when I play domination and any oof the announcers say "C Secure!"
I hear "Si, Senor!"
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there, hidden under the fold so anyone who really wants to continue the loop can still see if they really want to be subjected to the horror.
Also, watched woody's subguns video and I'm saddened by him not calling the 74s a broken overpowered weapon and how he said it'd be used "by competitive" gamers when he really meant to say "by tryhard bitches."
edit: I find 50% of the time, the russian announcer guy calls Bravo "Brava" and then I think about the beer of summer.
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After the past week I've realized that I'm only ever using Spy Plane, Counter Spy Plane, and Care Package. Probably because my performance is so spotty that I'm lucky to get even a 5 kill streak combined with the absence of the "oh, got my Harrier, now it'll get me my Pavelow" factor.
But the planes and the crate are always useful, and I can get them pretty regularly. I've got a team class with Hardline that's entire job is to get both planes up as much as possible.
And please, no mention of that damn car. I really, really hate that thing for some unfathomable reason.
I wish killstreaks were tied to class. It's annoying to be using hardline pro most of the time and then switching to a different class and suddenly have bad killstreaks.
Yeah, it kind of sucks
It also sucks that you have to leave a server before editing your classes
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After the past week I've realized that I'm only ever using Spy Plane, Counter Spy Plane, and Care Package. Probably because my performance is so spotty that I'm lucky to get even a 5 kill streak combined with the absence of the "oh, got my Harrier, now it'll get me my Pavelow" factor.
But the planes and the crate are always useful, and I can get them pretty regularly. I've got a team class with Hardline that's entire job is to get both planes up as much as possible.
And please, no mention of that damn car. I really, really hate that thing for some unfathomable reason.
I hate the RC because whenever I hear "Friendly RC something something" I'm always wondering why they aren't using a spy place instead.
As for gun flavor...I totally disagree. There's a ton of flavor, and while I have my preferences, sometimes I'll jump from the AK47 to the AUG to the Commando because they're all fun. I love both the FAL and M14. I've used all the SMG's and while some really don't fit me, none of them are "unusable."
People need to get out of their comfort zones and risk going 5-15 for a round with a gun they hate. Also, play Sharpshooter, that'll let you try a bunch of different guns. I got the mastery/1000 kill challenge for every primary and most secondaries in MW2....you just have to play a bit with everything to see the difference.
For all my bitching about this game, you guys (360 people I play with + too many posters in here) sure have sticks up your butts about the RC-XD.
You know it is really easy to hear coming and it explodes from one bullet or any explosion?
I probably explode 3 time's as many RC-XD's as RC-XD's that explode me. I mean, it is like 500 times less infuriating than a Pred, because you can't shoot down a pred.
Edit: Plus, last night I got two double kills from my tube blowing up an RC someone dropped before entering a doorway, including one game winner.
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People need to get out of their comfort zones and risk going 5-15 for a round with a gun they hate.
Why? I don't like using bad things just because they're bad.
There's something about the RC-XD
Every time I see one coming for me, I shoot at it and nothing happens
I see it going after someone else, I take it down with no trouble
For all my bitching about this game, you guys (360 people I play with + too many posters in here) sure have sticks up your butts about the RC-XD.
You know it is really easy to hear coming and it explodes from one bullet or any explosion?
I probably explode 3 time's as many RC-XD's as RC-XD's that explode me. I mean, it is like 500 times less infuriating than a Pred, because you can't shoot down a pred.
I just bitch about it when it kills me because I need a reason for me to retain my glorious superiority at the game. I do feel that it shouldn't be matched with the spy plane killstreak simply because there's never anything for me to shoot at when doing the ghost and/or hardened pro challenges.
edit: Also, I went back to an old free-to-play MMOFPS recently just to give me a taste of something else without having to spend forever having steam retrieve a game. The game was called Combat Arms. Anyone who feels the need to rage and/or complain about balance in BLOPS should give Combat Arms and evening of play. It makes me so grateful to be playing BLOPS again.
Allthough it probably doesn't help if I freak right the fuck out if I see an RC coming at me. Also, did not know RC's could drive up stairs.
Saw one headed towards me on Hanoi so I ran up a staircase.
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"Ahem..." 'splosion!
The Jammer does fuck all against RC's too....
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Honestly...I just don't like the RC-XD because I mean.
I just compare it to the Spy Plane
- You're basically giving away a 3-KS for 1 more kill unless you're lucky, a kill you can probably get yourself
- Spy plane has much greater recon ability
- Spy plane helps out your entire team and has a much higher kill potential than the RC.
I mean at least with the predator missile it counted towards the next KS so it was a "safe" way to get another point, but RC doesn't even have that.
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For all my bitching about this game, you guys (360 people I play with + too many posters in here) sure have sticks up your butts about the RC-XD.
You know it is really easy to hear coming and it explodes from one bullet or any explosion?
I probably explode 3 time's as many RC-XD's as RC-XD's that explode me. I mean, it is like 500 times less infuriating than a Pred, because you can't shoot down a pred.
Edit: Plus, last night I got two double kills from my tube blowing up an RC someone dropped before entering a doorway, including one game winner.
The problem is that it's got really fucking wonky hit detection so that even if you manage to hit it, it won't explode.
For all my bitching about this game, you guys (360 people I play with + too many posters in here) sure have sticks up your butts about the RC-XD.
You know it is really easy to hear coming and it explodes from one bullet or any explosion?
I probably explode 3 time's as many RC-XD's as RC-XD's that explode me. I mean, it is like 500 times less infuriating than a Pred, because you can't shoot down a pred.
Edit: Plus, last night I got two double kills from my tube blowing up an RC someone dropped before entering a doorway, including one game winner.
Protip, you can tomahawk a Valkyrie to make it blow up midair.
Of course you could shoot it and have the same effect but its nowhere near as badass.
I agree, but why should I be angry about the other team, or even my teammates, doing stupid things that will all but inevtiably make them do worse than me.
I enjoy being at/near the top of the scoreboard, screw you guys.
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People need to get out of their comfort zones and risk going 5-15 for a round with a gun they hate.
Why? I don't like using bad things just because they're bad.
Whoever said it before was right; you're trying to hate parts of this game.
You yourself even said that all the guns are the same. Thus, there can't be many "bad" guns. I only said 5-15 because some guns just don't suit the way you play, damage statistics aside. Think recoil, fire rate, damage dropoff, etc. You just have to experiment to find what will work for you, a process during which you will occasionally go like 5-15.
For all my bitching about this game, you guys (360 people I play with + too many posters in here) sure have sticks up your butts about the RC-XD.
You know it is really easy to hear coming and it explodes from one bullet or any explosion?
I probably explode 3 time's as many RC-XD's as RC-XD's that explode me. I mean, it is like 500 times less infuriating than a Pred, because you can't shoot down a pred.
Edit: Plus, last night I got two double kills from my tube blowing up an RC someone dropped before entering a doorway, including one game winner.
Protip, you can tomahawk a Valkyrie to make it blow up midair.
Of course you could shoot it and have the same effect but its nowhere near as badass.
Clips. Now.
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People need to get out of their comfort zones and risk going 5-15 for a round with a gun they hate.
Why? I don't like using bad things just because they're bad.
Whoever said it before was right; you're trying to hate parts of this game.
You yourself even said that all the guns are the same. Thus, there can't be many "bad" guns. I only said 5-15 because some guns just don't suit the way you play, damage statistics aside. Think recoil, fire rate, damage dropoff, etc. You just have to experiment to find what will work for you, a process during which you will occasionally go like 5-15.
...No, you see, I just can see things I like and don't like about things.
I don't have to be all for or all against.
And I'm not TRYING to find anything, I know for sure I dislike these things after playing the game for quite some time.
For all my bitching about this game, you guys (360 people I play with + too many posters in here) sure have sticks up your butts about the RC-XD.
You know it is really easy to hear coming and it explodes from one bullet or any explosion?
I probably explode 3 time's as many RC-XD's as RC-XD's that explode me. I mean, it is like 500 times less infuriating than a Pred, because you can't shoot down a pred.
Edit: Plus, last night I got two double kills from my tube blowing up an RC someone dropped before entering a doorway, including one game winner.
The problem is that it's got really fucking wonky hit detection so that even if you manage to hit it, it won't explode.
More than anything I really meant "a single tube will destroy one" cause that's pretty much what I always do.
Cause the only class I used is still the first gun and first attachment I bought when I was rank 5 or whatever.
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I'm not going to lie, I miss my ump.
my ump.
my lovely lady lump.
So at this moment, I'd pretty sure Nuketown is the best sniping map.
Honestly, I agree with Scat. All those maps you're talking about have room to snipe, but few of them have places where sniping is more effective than just using an AR.
There's a thumbs up and a thumbs down emote
where is my middle finger emote
All of the guns in this game use bullets to kill people. Would it kill them to put some variety in there?
I know! They could put a knife that shoots knives out of itself, or at least a crossbow!
I....
I covered shotguns...
Also, Scat, I went to a concert Friday night and opening band was some total weeaboo shit, but they were actually pretty good, too. Ogre You Asshole, do you know of them?
Yeah. Having separate killstreaks for every custom slot is something I've wanted forever.
what part of my response was copy-pasted? Am I not allowed to give step-by-step instructions on how to deal with dropshotting? Also what part of it boils down to "shoot them more?"
There is nothing wrong with going prone and shooting.
There is nothing unbalanced about doing it because you have the ability to do it to just the same effect as anyone and everyone else.
I don't do it, I personally don't like it when people do it, I'm not saying "lol I'm bettar than jooos!1" or "lol dakka dakka dem boysz wit' more WAAAUUUGGGHHHH." I even agree that it is dumb. BUT rather than bitch about it endlessly (how many pages has this back and forth been?) I proposed a solution for dealing with it that works sometimes.
what else is left to do? To what end does complaining about it serve? I'm trying real hard to not put words in your mouth, but I mean here's the FORTRAN play-by-play of this discussion:
00 killed by dropshot
01 complain on forum about dropshot
02 receive a proposed solution by people on forum
03 reject proposed solution, call proposer names
04 GOTO 01
The source of my hyperbolic assertion that you "complain about it endlessly online" is clearly demonstrated on line 04.
I'm not arguing whether your opinion that "dropshotting is silly" is right or wrong, I'm just wondering why my proposed solution is not good enough for you and/or why my proposed solution is an insult to your intelligence and your dignity?
On an entirely other note, can someone explain to me how the theatre works? I'd like to compile a montage of awesome moments, which I assure you fine gentlemen will be done so ironically, but I'm not entirely certain what my best approach should be? How do all the tryhards on youtube do it?
Yeah, it kind of sucks
Also, when I play domination and any oof the announcers say "C Secure!"
I hear "Si, Senor!"
Also, watched woody's subguns video and I'm saddened by him not calling the 74s a broken overpowered weapon and how he said it'd be used "by competitive" gamers when he really meant to say "by tryhard bitches."
edit: I find 50% of the time, the russian announcer guy calls Bravo "Brava" and then I think about the beer of summer.
But the planes and the crate are always useful, and I can get them pretty regularly. I've got a team class with Hardline that's entire job is to get both planes up as much as possible.
And please, no mention of that damn car. I really, really hate that thing for some unfathomable reason.
WE'RE TAKING BRAVAH!
Well lets talk about that: we're about due for the next one. Anyone want to step up and take it, or should I continue to tend to it?
It also sucks that you have to leave a server before editing your classes
I hate the RC because whenever I hear "Friendly RC something something" I'm always wondering why they aren't using a spy place instead.
As for gun flavor...I totally disagree. There's a ton of flavor, and while I have my preferences, sometimes I'll jump from the AK47 to the AUG to the Commando because they're all fun. I love both the FAL and M14. I've used all the SMG's and while some really don't fit me, none of them are "unusable."
People need to get out of their comfort zones and risk going 5-15 for a round with a gun they hate. Also, play Sharpshooter, that'll let you try a bunch of different guns. I got the mastery/1000 kill challenge for every primary and most secondaries in MW2....you just have to play a bit with everything to see the difference.
You know it is really easy to hear coming and it explodes from one bullet or any explosion?
I probably explode 3 time's as many RC-XD's as RC-XD's that explode me. I mean, it is like 500 times less infuriating than a Pred, because you can't shoot down a pred.
Edit: Plus, last night I got two double kills from my tube blowing up an RC someone dropped before entering a doorway, including one game winner.
Why? I don't like using bad things just because they're bad.
The MAC11 is so much better than the AK74u it's not even funny. It doesn't even need a grip to be a perfectly accurate death machine
Actually I put a grenade launcher on it because I find having one on a SMG hilarious.
As for the Mac11, it is good...wish it had a better magazine size.
Every time I see one coming for me, I shoot at it and nothing happens
I see it going after someone else, I take it down with no trouble
I just bitch about it when it kills me because I need a reason for me to retain my glorious superiority at the game. I do feel that it shouldn't be matched with the spy plane killstreak simply because there's never anything for me to shoot at when doing the ghost and/or hardened pro challenges.
edit: Also, I went back to an old free-to-play MMOFPS recently just to give me a taste of something else without having to spend forever having steam retrieve a game. The game was called Combat Arms. Anyone who feels the need to rage and/or complain about balance in BLOPS should give Combat Arms and evening of play. It makes me so grateful to be playing BLOPS again.
I can take it man
Lies!
Allthough it probably doesn't help if I freak right the fuck out if I see an RC coming at me. Also, did not know RC's could drive up stairs.
Saw one headed towards me on Hanoi so I ran up a staircase.
Smug.gif
"Ahem..." 'splosion!
The Jammer does fuck all against RC's too....
I just compare it to the Spy Plane
- You're basically giving away a 3-KS for 1 more kill unless you're lucky, a kill you can probably get yourself
- Spy plane has much greater recon ability
- Spy plane helps out your entire team and has a much higher kill potential than the RC.
I mean at least with the predator missile it counted towards the next KS so it was a "safe" way to get another point, but RC doesn't even have that.
The problem is that it's got really fucking wonky hit detection so that even if you manage to hit it, it won't explode.
Protip, you can tomahawk a Valkyrie to make it blow up midair.
Of course you could shoot it and have the same effect but its nowhere near as badass.
I enjoy being at/near the top of the scoreboard, screw you guys.
Whoever said it before was right; you're trying to hate parts of this game.
You yourself even said that all the guns are the same. Thus, there can't be many "bad" guns. I only said 5-15 because some guns just don't suit the way you play, damage statistics aside. Think recoil, fire rate, damage dropoff, etc. You just have to experiment to find what will work for you, a process during which you will occasionally go like 5-15.
Clips. Now.
...No, you see, I just can see things I like and don't like about things.
I don't have to be all for or all against.
And I'm not TRYING to find anything, I know for sure I dislike these things after playing the game for quite some time.
More than anything I really meant "a single tube will destroy one" cause that's pretty much what I always do.
Cause the only class I used is still the first gun and first attachment I bought when I was rank 5 or whatever.
M16 + tube.
erryday