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Making fun of the world [Lindsay Lohan]
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OK so Julian Assange has released a bunch of documents, to the joy of some and the embaressment of others.
Also North and South Korea are at it again.
The world is in a state ladies and gentlement, and it's our job to talk about it fruitlessly right here.
Go!
Also North and South Korea are at it again.
The world is in a state ladies and gentlement, and it's our job to talk about it fruitlessly right here.
Go!
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Dear satan I wish for this or maybe some of this....oh and I'm a medium or a large.
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you know how you talk about your friends to your significant other?
wikileaks is the significant other that tells everyone what you said
To bad they the Sol jump node will be destroyed in the great war.
Then you'll be stuck there.
Wikileaks got a bunch of diplomatic cables from a US government leak, some classified some not, and have released it for public consumption. Generally the interesting bits are about US diplomats making disparing comments about foreign dignitaries, which is rather amusing, though not especially so. Some people think this is great because it lights a fire under the ass of the US gov and down with the shadow government and all that, others think it's rather childish, seeing as there is nothing illegal in the documents publishing them is basically the equivalent of tabloid journalism.
wikileaks released secret US diplomatic cables (aka what US diplomats are saying to each other).
Some interesting stuff, some hilarious stuff, even some damaging stuff.
Pretty much!
I mean, on one hand, I'm a big fan of freedom of information and anti-censorship movements and so on.
On the other hand, I'm not a big fan of nuclear terror and world wars, and while I don't think that will start explicitly due to this, it's certainly increasing tensions.
I still haven't finished that game. I lost my save file halfway through, and the cheats are a pain to use.
Stop making me sad that there will never be a Freespace 3.
He seems like a colossal douchebag.
Then I'll be the Nicolas Sarkozy of interstellar space travel
Yes but I am The Sentry.
...
I'm not sure what my point is here.
At least until he gets served the Swedish warrant
I actually haven't finished Freespace 2 myself.
I always get to the Interceptor missions and lose a bunch and give up.
I loaded it the other day and plugged in my X-52 but for some reason my afterburners wouldn't fire in one of the first missions.
It has also made China look like asses, and also shows that every country around Iran wants to kill them. Really, some of the documents really exonerate the US. Everyone is like "Oh that US, they just hate Iran and they're gonna eventually move their military in because they are blood thirsty murderers."
When, turns out, that is the opposite of what is happening, and it's every other country in the region trying to push us into a military conflict.
Wikileaks != Megathread.
Nice try Supreme Court Judge Ubik.
What spring does with the cherry trees.
Also, I enjoyed learning that much of the Muslim world hates Iran, with the Saudi King repeatedly asking America to just go ahead and bomb their nuclear facilities already. Similar to the North Korea/China situation, I think that the Iranian leadership assumed that if war broke out, the rest of the Muslim countries in the region would have their back vs Israel/America/NATO, but these cable show that not to be the case.
Having countries that are actively bad turn out to be totally isolated is probably a good thing, as, I would hope, knowing they have no support would make them less bellicose.
I'm just judgin'
so i don't fully understand why this would be perceived as a bad thing
could someone explain to me what is so wrong?
That's why America's hair is so big
It's full of secrets
But if we're following what the North Korea thread was about, we'd just talk about Wikileaks and North Korea mostly, which is what the OP was trying to get with this thread.
With the wikileaks thing? Well, some things are better left secret. Nuclear launch codes are pretty obvious. Diplomatic cables less so.
Because all the gossipy kids at school read America's diary.
Its Freespace. There's no happy ending anyway.
if you were lostwords, I would have you reference Mean Girls
but the rest of the stuff
seems to me like it is good that this information is out
i think they should be a different standard set for what is better left secret and what people should know
because diplomacy is based on trust. The entire point of dealing with another country is that you trust them to
a) keep their word on deals they make with you
b) act professionally and keep their scuttlebutt confidential
If a country knows that you can't keep your shit to yourself, why should they deal with you? Certain things need to be secret, because it's not politically smart to air your dirty laundry all the time. It's not really a good idea to announce the fact that you want the U.S. to get militarily involved with your neighbor.
And the most important thing is this: that is ok. There is no need for that to be released until the government thinks that it should be. People talk about transparency as if keeping things secret is the highest sin an entity can commit. It's not. Some things should stay in the dark, because we live in a real world where real things happen, dealing with real countries who don't have your citizens' best interest at the forefront of their thought.
diplomatic messages are transmitted across submarine cables. early telegraph communications were referred to as "cables" and the name has stuck for messages between countries to this day.
the way i see it
i don't exactly trust the higher ups to make the right calls on what information should be known
then how did they get there in the first place?
then how did they get there in the first place?
t - Ubik : a cable is just a message sent via email, fax, whatever
t - swill: So just releasing all the information is the best solution?
Steam
Then they shouldn't be elected, because that is their job.