you dudes are way too PC about stupid stupid beliefs
smack him upside the head and tell him to stop being a twat
I see no difference beetween his belief and that of any other religious person and I don't go around smacking people upside the head
Those beliefs have, through time and historical accident, gained a certain amount of acceptability. Depending on your inclination, this is somewhat unfortunate.
But you don't make the situation better by throwing up your hands and deciding to accord every idiotic belief respect and equal time. You definitely don't want to expand the idiocy privilege any wider than you have to; you want to keep cracking down on that shit.
"Everybody has the right to worship their crystal alien gods, man" is a recipe for stupidity.
you dudes are way too PC about stupid stupid beliefs
smack him upside the head and tell him to stop being a twat
I see no difference beetween his belief and that of any other religious person and I don't go around smacking people upside the head
Cept one is indoctrinated into society and the other is a person willingly and individually making the choice to be loony.
I think saying that generally, christians et al haven't made an individual choice about their beliefs is being down on them more than the alien cult dude
i am much more willing to accept
"i come from a long family of christians who celebrate christian traditions and holidays that have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember."
it is interesting that when someone says they believe in alien gods you're all "make him see reason" but when someone says they believe in regular old gods doing that is bad
unless he's going to drink the spirit juice to pierce the veil just try to make him keep it more to himself
man that is completely wrong-headed
Old timey religions that have survived to this day have a certain amount of acceptability due to age and historical accident. There's no getting around this.
However, the take home message is not "therefore when some dullard starts spouting hippie-dippy alien crystal nonsense that would need 3 rewrites just to be a below-average episode of Stargate, treat him with respect and dignity because hey it's all cool man"
it's
"berate his stupid ass until he cries". Don't expand the privilege accorded to certain schools of sloppy thought to everything. That's just insane.
No.
old timey religions are every bit as loony as this. I don't care if it's old bullshit or new bullshit. So the same courtesy should be extended to people who believe either thing.
you dudes are way too PC about stupid stupid beliefs
smack him upside the head and tell him to stop being a twat
I see no difference beetween his belief and that of any other religious person and I don't go around smacking people upside the head
Those beliefs have, through time and historical accident, gained a certain amount of acceptability. Depending on your inclination, this is somewhat unfortunate.
But you don't make the situation better by throwing up your hands and deciding to accord every idiotic belief respect and equal time. You definitely don't want to expand the idiocy privilege any wider than you have to; you want to keep cracking down on that shit.
"Everybody has the right to worship their crystal alien gods, man" is a recipe for stupidity.
but why?
Crack down on the blatant criminals and money hucksters... but so long as what a person believes doesn't pick your pocket or cause you harm, why does it fucking matter aside from your inherent desire to show them the wrongness of their ways?
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
you dudes are way too PC about stupid stupid beliefs
smack him upside the head and tell him to stop being a twat
I see no difference beetween his belief and that of any other religious person and I don't go around smacking people upside the head
Those beliefs have, through time and historical accident, gained a certain amount of acceptability. Depending on your inclination, this is somewhat unfortunate.
But you don't make the situation better by throwing up your hands and deciding to accord every idiotic belief respect and equal time. You definitely don't want to expand the idiocy privilege any wider than you have to; you want to keep cracking down on that shit.
"Everybody has the right to worship their crystal alien gods, man" is a recipe for stupidity.
I think you are missing his point Senj
it is just as bad to worship crystal alien gods as it is jesus or allah or whatever, but that doesn't mean you should be disrespectful to one and not the other
it is interesting that when someone says they believe in alien gods you're all "make him see reason" but when someone says they believe in regular old gods doing that is bad
unless he's going to drink the spirit juice to pierce the veil just try to make him keep it more to himself
man that is completely wrong-headed
Old timey religions that have survived to this day have a certain amount of acceptability due to age and historical accident. There's no getting around this.
However, the take home message is not "therefore when some dullard starts spouting hippie-dippy alien crystal nonsense that would need 3 rewrites just to be a below-average episode of Stargate, treat him with respect and dignity because hey it's all cool man"
it's
"berate his stupid ass until he cries". Don't expand the privilege accorded to certain schools of sloppy thought to everything. That's just insane.
No.
old timey religions are every bit as loony as this. I don't care if it's old bullshit or new bullshit.So the same courtesy should be extended to people who believe either thing.
you dudes are way too PC about stupid stupid beliefs
smack him upside the head and tell him to stop being a twat
I see no difference beetween his belief and that of any other religious person and I don't go around smacking people upside the head
Cept one is indoctrinated into society and the other is a person willingly and individually making the choice to be loony.
I think saying that generally, christians et al haven't made an individual choice about their beliefs is being down on them more than the alien cult dude
i am much more willing to accept
"i come from a long family of christians who celebrate christian traditions and holidays that have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember."
than
"i came up with like. . this theory man."
honestly i am much more willing to accept the second
at least they thought about what they are believing in
"i come from a long family of christians who celebrate christian traditions and holidays that have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember."
than
"i came up with like. . this theory man."
I'm more willing to accept the latter. At least that involved some thought instead of refusing to look at one's beliefs simply because it they are old.
you dudes are way too PC about stupid stupid beliefs
smack him upside the head and tell him to stop being a twat
I see no difference beetween his belief and that of any other religious person and I don't go around smacking people upside the head
Those beliefs have, through time and historical accident, gained a certain amount of acceptability. Depending on your inclination, this is somewhat unfortunate.
But you don't make the situation better by throwing up your hands and deciding to accord every idiotic belief respect and equal time. You definitely don't want to expand the idiocy privilege any wider than you have to; you want to keep cracking down on that shit.
"Everybody has the right to worship their crystal alien gods, man" is a recipe for stupidity.
I don't respect it, I tolerate it. There's a difference.
I'm just not a crusading sort of atheist and to be frank I have little but distaste for the notion
it is interesting that when someone says they believe in alien gods you're all "make him see reason" but when someone says they believe in regular old gods doing that is bad
unless he's going to drink the spirit juice to pierce the veil just try to make him keep it more to himself
man that is completely wrong-headed
Old timey religions that have survived to this day have a certain amount of acceptability due to age and historical accident. There's no getting around this.
However, the take home message is not "therefore when some dullard starts spouting hippie-dippy alien crystal nonsense that would need 3 rewrites just to be a below-average episode of Stargate, treat him with respect and dignity because hey it's all cool man"
it's
"berate his stupid ass until he cries". Don't expand the privilege accorded to certain schools of sloppy thought to everything. That's just insane.
No.
old timey religions are every bit as loony as this. I don't care if it's old bullshit or new bullshit.So the same courtesy should be extended to people who believe either thing.
this is one of the reasons that while i don't agree with passer re: religion, i respect her for it more than i would someone who is christian/muslim/jewish because their family is
When they only person who agrees with you is Preacher you may have no soul
Hey being soulless is pretty fun times, we even get dental. True its because we rip the teeth out of others to replace our own, but its not my painful impromptu surgery!
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
"i come from a long family of christians who celebrate christian traditions and holidays that have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember."
than
"i came up with like. . this theory man."
I'm more willing to accept the latter. At least that involved some thought instead of refusing to look at one's beliefs simply because it they are old.
yes but when those lines of thought are completely broken, disregard occam's razor, and founded by more logical fallacies than actual coherent thought there is a problem. This is a person willingly without any sort of stimulus choosing to believe goosery.
it is interesting that when someone says they believe in alien gods you're all "make him see reason" but when someone says they believe in regular old gods doing that is bad
unless he's going to drink the spirit juice to pierce the veil just try to make him keep it more to himself
man that is completely wrong-headed
Old timey religions that have survived to this day have a certain amount of acceptability due to age and historical accident. There's no getting around this.
However, the take home message is not "therefore when some dullard starts spouting hippie-dippy alien crystal nonsense that would need 3 rewrites just to be a below-average episode of Stargate, treat him with respect and dignity because hey it's all cool man"
it's
"berate his stupid ass until he cries". Don't expand the privilege accorded to certain schools of sloppy thought to everything. That's just insane.
No.
old timey religions are every bit as loony as this. I don't care if it's old bullshit or new bullshit.So the same courtesy should be extended to people who believe either thing.
salmon for bad, wrong, terrible idea
Why? The new bullshit is the least durable stuff
I mean the old stuff has been around for a long time, it's not going to die on it's own anytime soon
Hey Mori, you might just point out that Von Daniken who was the idiot who popularized the idea was convicted of fraud a few times.
He's getting really defensive now, so I'll have to save it for later.
He's doing the whole "it isn't a belief if you can test it" thing, which doesn't even make sense, and he seems pretty set in the notion that since he isn't condemning non-believers, there isn't really anything to argue about. He even said "humor me like you would humor dad," which is like shit dude... I thought I was being gentle but now he's really hurt that I trashed something he was so excited to share.
I just sent him a text that says "You are entitled to your faith" but I don't really believe it and I think he'll see the incredulity it's meant to obfuscated.
Now I'm back to all shaken about this. Why did this have to happen to him?
Also THoma, I read up on Von Daniken just now and yeah, I suspect my brother might be reading his shit.
"i come from a long family of christians who celebrate christian traditions and holidays that have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember."
than
"i came up with like. . this theory man."
I'm more willing to accept the latter. At least that involved some thought instead of refusing to look at one's beliefs simply because it they are old.
yes but when those lines of thought are completely broken, disregard occam's razor, and founded by more logical fallacies than actual coherent thought there is a problem. This is a person willingly without any sort of stimulus choosing to believe goosery.
see uh
i make the same arguments about classical religion
so they are almost indistinguishable in my mind, one just has the authority of establishment
and i would argue that it is better to argue respectfully in all cases than in some versus others
it is interesting that when someone says they believe in alien gods you're all "make him see reason" but when someone says they believe in regular old gods doing that is bad
unless he's going to drink the spirit juice to pierce the veil just try to make him keep it more to himself
man that is completely wrong-headed
Old timey religions that have survived to this day have a certain amount of acceptability due to age and historical accident. There's no getting around this.
However, the take home message is not "therefore when some dullard starts spouting hippie-dippy alien crystal nonsense that would need 3 rewrites just to be a below-average episode of Stargate, treat him with respect and dignity because hey it's all cool man"
it's
"berate his stupid ass until he cries". Don't expand the privilege accorded to certain schools of sloppy thought to everything. That's just insane.
No.
old timey religions are every bit as loony as this. I don't care if it's old bullshit or new bullshit.So the same courtesy should be extended to people who believe either thing.
salmon for bad, wrong, terrible idea
pink for idisagree with you
rainbowed for fabulous
EDIT: Man, ROYGBIV is such bullshit. Indigo and violet? Get the fuck out of here.
you dudes are way too PC about stupid stupid beliefs
smack him upside the head and tell him to stop being a twat
I see no difference beetween his belief and that of any other religious person and I don't go around smacking people upside the head
Those beliefs have, through time and historical accident, gained a certain amount of acceptability. Depending on your inclination, this is somewhat unfortunate.
But you don't make the situation better by throwing up your hands and deciding to accord every idiotic belief respect and equal time. You definitely don't want to expand the idiocy privilege any wider than you have to; you want to keep cracking down on that shit.
"Everybody has the right to worship their crystal alien gods, man" is a recipe for stupidity.
but why?
Crack down on the blatant criminals and money hucksters... but so long as what a person believes doesn't pick your pocket or cause you harm, why does it fucking matter aside from your inherent desire to show them the wrongness of their ways?
Listen, I don't know if you have noticed, but there is a lot of fucking ignorance in the world.
It is mostly a crazy ignorant place!
So I am advocating cracking down on that shit anywhere you can get away with it. It is socially acceptable to mock the idiocy of believing in Lizard People from the Center of the Earth.
It is not currently (universally) socially acceptable to mock the idiocy of Sarah Palin's belief that the Great Sky Beard means Global Warming can't be a threat.
So flip it around; why would extending the "oh your beliefs are a special unique snowflake" privilege to the Lizard People believers make the world a better place, instead of a place even more over-run with people whose heads are so far up their asses they can see Russia from the lungs?
So I am advocating cracking down on that shit anywhere you can get away with it. It is socially acceptable to mock the idiocy of believing in Lizard People from the Center of the Earth.
Mocking something usually isn't a very good way to kill it.
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Hey Mori, you might just point out that Von Daniken who was the idiot who popularized the idea was convicted of fraud a few times.
He's getting really defensive now, so I'll have to save it for later.
He's doing the whole "it isn't a belief if you can test it" thing, which doesn't even make sense, and he seems pretty set in the notion that since he isn't condemning non-believers, there isn't really anything to argue about. He even said "humor me like you would humor dad," which is like shit dude... I thought I was being gentle but now he's really hurt that I trashed something he was so excited to share.
I just sent him a text that says "You are entitled to your faith" but I don't really believe it and I think he'll see the incredulity it's meant to obfuscated.
Now I'm back to all shaken about this. Why did this have to happen to him?
Also THoma, I read up on Von Daniken just now and yeah, I suspect my brother might be reading his shit.
Most likely. There are some other people who push that theory but most of them trace their shtick back to him, and he's still the most popular of that kind of crazy. De-programing him of stupid crazy isn't worth the effort, faster to simply think those pushing that theory are simply out to scam him.
I think I'll let it sit for a week or two and then just kinda suggest Cosmos. Carl Sagan should deliver the message I need and provide the sense of wonder my brother hungers for.
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Those beliefs have, through time and historical accident, gained a certain amount of acceptability. Depending on your inclination, this is somewhat unfortunate.
But you don't make the situation better by throwing up your hands and deciding to accord every idiotic belief respect and equal time. You definitely don't want to expand the idiocy privilege any wider than you have to; you want to keep cracking down on that shit.
"Everybody has the right to worship their crystal alien gods, man" is a recipe for stupidity.
Donkey Kong has the right idea here
i am much more willing to accept
"i come from a long family of christians who celebrate christian traditions and holidays that have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember."
than
"i came up with like. . this theory man."
No.
old timey religions are every bit as loony as this. I don't care if it's old bullshit or new bullshit. So the same courtesy should be extended to people who believe either thing.
nexus is clearly a lizard person
DON'T QUESTION ME I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY BEAUTIFUL SNOWFLAKE BELIEFS
Crack down on the blatant criminals and money hucksters... but so long as what a person believes doesn't pick your pocket or cause you harm, why does it fucking matter aside from your inherent desire to show them the wrongness of their ways?
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
I think you are missing his point Senj
it is just as bad to worship crystal alien gods as it is jesus or allah or whatever, but that doesn't mean you should be disrespectful to one and not the other
Real life Bond villain.
salmon for bad, wrong, terrible idea
How anyone could find Tina Fey funny.
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honestly i am much more willing to accept the second
at least they thought about what they are believing in
yes. he's that good.
I don't respect it, I tolerate it. There's a difference.
I'm just not a crusading sort of atheist and to be frank I have little but distaste for the notion
pink for i disagree with you
Seriously, he got like a tiger AS A PET!
pleasepaypreacher.net
hi-5
Hey being soulless is pretty fun times, we even get dental. True its because we rip the teeth out of others to replace our own, but its not my painful impromptu surgery!
pleasepaypreacher.net
presentation went horribly, just shoveled my driveway
didnt get my internet installed ... still leeching off neighbors
going to go to walmart to actually accomplish something today >.<
yes but when those lines of thought are completely broken, disregard occam's razor, and founded by more logical fallacies than actual coherent thought there is a problem. This is a person willingly without any sort of stimulus choosing to believe goosery.
Why? The new bullshit is the least durable stuff
I mean the old stuff has been around for a long time, it's not going to die on it's own anytime soon
He's getting really defensive now, so I'll have to save it for later.
He's doing the whole "it isn't a belief if you can test it" thing, which doesn't even make sense, and he seems pretty set in the notion that since he isn't condemning non-believers, there isn't really anything to argue about. He even said "humor me like you would humor dad," which is like shit dude... I thought I was being gentle but now he's really hurt that I trashed something he was so excited to share.
I just sent him a text that says "You are entitled to your faith" but I don't really believe it and I think he'll see the incredulity it's meant to obfuscated.
Now I'm back to all shaken about this. Why did this have to happen to him?
Also THoma, I read up on Von Daniken just now and yeah, I suspect my brother might be reading his shit.
see uh
i make the same arguments about classical religion
so they are almost indistinguishable in my mind, one just has the authority of establishment
and i would argue that it is better to argue respectfully in all cases than in some versus others
rainbowed for fabulous
EDIT: Man, ROYGBIV is such bullshit. Indigo and violet? Get the fuck out of here.
It is mostly a crazy ignorant place!
So I am advocating cracking down on that shit anywhere you can get away with it. It is socially acceptable to mock the idiocy of believing in Lizard People from the Center of the Earth.
It is not currently (universally) socially acceptable to mock the idiocy of Sarah Palin's belief that the Great Sky Beard means Global Warming can't be a threat.
So flip it around; why would extending the "oh your beliefs are a special unique snowflake" privilege to the Lizard People believers make the world a better place, instead of a place even more over-run with people whose heads are so far up their asses they can see Russia from the lungs?
He is so comically and unapologetically Russian and manly
you may disagree with his politics but he gets shit done
no compromise, all virility
Very different than current Western-style politicians
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Most likely. There are some other people who push that theory but most of them trace their shtick back to him, and he's still the most popular of that kind of crazy. De-programing him of stupid crazy isn't worth the effort, faster to simply think those pushing that theory are simply out to scam him.
i can watch Weeds now.
you goose
Most hippy-dippy crazy NRM ideas die off because they tend to face resistance, massive criticism, and intolerance.
You know, the things you are advocating doing away with?
I know you guys do
and I think that's very precious
someday I believe you geese will figure out that it isn't working, and that social pressure is the more powerful tool
much love
Mockery just tends to make people defensive.