I think my annoyance is less with what he has accomplished especially since this last week has made me feel better but more with the lack of political savvy the democrats including the white house have shown in exploiting what they have done and being more aggressive.
But I am maybe not super happy but I am pleased with him and the congress at the moment. Give it time and they will scew that up since they always do. Its the way of politics.
Perhaps this line of thinking is counterintuitive to getting good policy, just a thought, just a thought.
Not really. When everything else has failed we typically manage to do the right thing. There's just a hell of a lot of stuff we apparently feel we have to try first. Besides, all political victories are pyrrhic.
That's not actually true when you look at individual issues, just group labels. And group labels are terrible at determining political outlook. Hell, I could easily self-identify as a conservative even though I'm Socialist McCommie-pants in comparison to the most liberal Republican.
Seriously.
I'm a non-party former-Republican and I'm more "liberal" than a shitload of democrats, and was even when I still had an R tacked on me.
it would be much better if Obama was president of the United States of the West Coast and California, Washington, and Oregon just seceded from the rest.
We don't have nearly enough competent firearm owners here.
I think my annoyance is less with what he has accomplished especially since this last week has made me feel better but more with the lack of political savvy the democrats including the white house have shown in exploiting what they have done and being more aggressive.
But I am maybe not super happy but I am pleased with him and the congress at the moment. Give it time and they will scew that up since they always do. Its the way of politics.
Perhaps this line of thinking is counterintuitive to getting good policy, just a thought, just a thought.
Or perhaps it is just looking at the reality of what is coming and the history of government. For all the good they do they tend to go between doing good and doing pants on head retarded things. Right now the pendulum is on the end I wish it would get stuck on. And congress can prove me wrong. I would love for them to prove me wrong. But really I doubt they will.
I'm confused about the message GI Jane was sending. 99% of the movie was showing her being a capable Marine but her presence weakened the group because they were all hesitant to treat her as an equal, either by pulling their punches or by being extra-rude. OK. Fine. Queue '80s montage music.
But the remaining 1% is Viggo Mortensen's character telling her she can't be a Marine because she can't hoist a 200 pound man over her shoulders and carry him out of combat. And, in the end, she can't. She's giving a wounded Viggo a shoulder to lean on and they hobble away to safety. He writes her a poem and seems satisfied but ... what? A female Marine has to pull her downed squadmates from battle so what would have happened if his leg were blown clean off and he couldn't hobble? Can a physically fit woman 'fireman's carry' a 200 pound man?
I am obviously not the best person to speak on such things but I feel like Obama is basically laying the tracks for history instead of getting everything done in one fell swoop and then getting voted out by moderates. He is playing the long game, it feels like.
I think a lot of the frustration comes from like
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
YES WE CAN
and then you get into it and it's like
oh washington is still full of dickheads
Well, that and the almost immediate dropping of soaring rhetoric. I'm more than happy with compromise that improves over the status quo; that's the very definition of progress. I'd just also like to see some arguments for liberalism writ large every now and again. Maybe they'll be coming now that he has a combative House to play off of, but it'd be nice.
I think my annoyance is less with what he has accomplished especially since this last week has made me feel better but more with the lack of political savvy the democrats including the white house have shown in exploiting what they have done and being more aggressive.
But I am maybe not super happy but I am pleased with him and the congress at the moment. Give it time and they will scew that up since they always do. Its the way of politics.
Perhaps this line of thinking is counterintuitive to getting good policy, just a thought, just a thought.
Or perhaps it is just looking at the reality of what is coming and the history of government. For all the good they do they tend to go between doing good and doing pants on head retarded things. Right now the pendulum is on the end I wish it would get stuck on. And congress can prove me wrong. I would love for them to prove me wrong. But really I doubt they will.
Cynicism is a sorry kind of wisdom mazzy. A wise man once said that and I really wish some people in this country would stand by it.
"Oh they'll fuck it up."
Yeah like healthcare reform, financial reform, the 9/11 responders bill, ratifying the start treaty, dadt man they sure fucked the hell out of those things 2 years in after 8 years of mind numbingly ridiculously bad political times.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
it would be much better if Obama was president of the United States of the West Coast and California, Washington, and Oregon just seceded from the rest.
hey the northeast atlantic corridor has dibs. at least we have basically functioning state governments and don't pick on our homos.
I'm confused about the message GI Jane was sending. 99% of the movie was showing her being a capable Marine but her presence weakened the group because they were all hesitant to treat her as an equal, either by pulling their punches or by being extra-rude. OK. Fine. Queue '80s montage music.
But the remaining 1% is Viggo Mortensen's character telling her she can't be a Marine because she can't hoist a 200 pound man over her shoulders and carry him out of combat. And, in the end, she can't. She's giving a wounded Viggo a shoulder to lean on and they hobble away to safety. He writes her a poem and seems satisfied but ... what? A female Marine has to pull her downed squadmates from battle so what would have happened if his leg were blown clean off and he couldn't hobble? Can a physically fit woman 'fireman's carry' a 200 pound man?
i think the overall message was that maybe she couldn't fireman-carry viggo around but she made up for her unfortunate circumstance of birth with pluck and ended up not letting her team down.
i guess it was kind of the Rudy of military movies
it would be much better if Obama was president of the United States of the West Coast and California, Washington, and Oregon just seceded from the rest.
hey the northeast atlantic corridor has dibs. at least we have basically functioning state governments and don't pick on our homos.
you guys can have like jerry brown or something
Word.
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Well em, if his leg were blown off and he still weighed 200 lbs it's his own god damn fault for being such a lard ass.
Its that line of thinking thats terrifying when talking about equality in jobs it has no right in being. Like fire fighters. If you can do the physical requirement awesome you can be a firefighter, but it should be an equal requirement that actually fufills the jobs requirement, life aint fair.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I think my annoyance is less with what he has accomplished especially since this last week has made me feel better but more with the lack of political savvy the democrats including the white house have shown in exploiting what they have done and being more aggressive.
But I am maybe not super happy but I am pleased with him and the congress at the moment. Give it time and they will scew that up since they always do. Its the way of politics.
Perhaps this line of thinking is counterintuitive to getting good policy, just a thought, just a thought.
Or perhaps it is just looking at the reality of what is coming and the history of government. For all the good they do they tend to go between doing good and doing pants on head retarded things. Right now the pendulum is on the end I wish it would get stuck on. And congress can prove me wrong. I would love for them to prove me wrong. But really I doubt they will.
Cynicism is a sorry kind of wisdom mazzy. A wise man once said that and I really wish some people in this country would stand by it.
"Oh they'll fuck it up."
Yeah like healthcare reform, financial reform, the 9/11 responders bill, ratifying the start treaty, dadt man they sure fucked the hell out of those things 2 years in after 8 years of mind numbingly ridiculously bad political times.
I think a lot of the cynicism with PA forumers with regards to politics is that for a lot of us young'ins the first things we saw as we were becoming politically aware, and really all we've ever really known, was either Clinton being crucified for getting a BJ and lying about it... and well... Bush.
it would be much better if Obama was president of the United States of the West Coast and California, Washington, and Oregon just seceded from the rest.
hey the northeast atlantic corridor has dibs. at least we have basically functioning state governments and don't pick on our homos.
you guys can have like jerry brown or something
Word.
no this is bullshit
brown is old and lame
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Not really. When everything else has failed we typically manage to do the right thing. There's just a hell of a lot of stuff we apparently feel we have to try first. Besides, all political victories are pyrrhic.
Seriously.
I'm a non-party former-Republican and I'm more "liberal" than a shitload of democrats, and was even when I still had an R tacked on me.
to visit the united states of new england
your president can be barney frank
Yes.
We don't have nearly enough competent firearm owners here.
Everything good doesn't exist. Fact.
Vote Republican 2012
I'd back a president frank, though I wouldn't want him behind me.
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Or perhaps it is just looking at the reality of what is coming and the history of government. For all the good they do they tend to go between doing good and doing pants on head retarded things. Right now the pendulum is on the end I wish it would get stuck on. And congress can prove me wrong. I would love for them to prove me wrong. But really I doubt they will.
50 states is just too many
and too full of dummies
need to cut our losses
But the remaining 1% is Viggo Mortensen's character telling her she can't be a Marine because she can't hoist a 200 pound man over her shoulders and carry him out of combat. And, in the end, she can't. She's giving a wounded Viggo a shoulder to lean on and they hobble away to safety. He writes her a poem and seems satisfied but ... what? A female Marine has to pull her downed squadmates from battle so what would have happened if his leg were blown clean off and he couldn't hobble? Can a physically fit woman 'fireman's carry' a 200 pound man?
Well, that and the almost immediate dropping of soaring rhetoric. I'm more than happy with compromise that improves over the status quo; that's the very definition of progress. I'd just also like to see some arguments for liberalism writ large every now and again. Maybe they'll be coming now that he has a combative House to play off of, but it'd be nice.
Start amalgamating some of them. Do you really need two Dakotas?
The trick is that a lot of assholes will start applying those strength requirements to every goddamn thing they can.
Cynicism is a sorry kind of wisdom mazzy. A wise man once said that and I really wish some people in this country would stand by it.
"Oh they'll fuck it up."
Yeah like healthcare reform, financial reform, the 9/11 responders bill, ratifying the start treaty, dadt man they sure fucked the hell out of those things 2 years in after 8 years of mind numbingly ridiculously bad political times.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Immanentize the Eschaton.
hmm
maybe we could combine and compress some of them
just .rar the middle states
are you sure you want to run this program?
hey the northeast atlantic corridor has dibs. at least we have basically functioning state governments and don't pick on our homos.
you guys can have like jerry brown or something
oh wait we actually have to vote on it now
I wholeheartedly support this bill
you don't get shit
chicago may want to consider joining canada though, it's a pretty nice city
it'd be a shame if something were to
happen to it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYc81yl4Cxo
?
no i'm busy
i think the overall message was that maybe she couldn't fireman-carry viggo around but she made up for her unfortunate circumstance of birth with pluck and ended up not letting her team down.
i guess it was kind of the Rudy of military movies
We gave you tons of money, but Blagojevich ran off with it all. So sorry...
Word.
I caught it, Bogart!
Also I would vote for Mitchell Hundred for everything
We mustn't forget that.
Its that line of thinking thats terrifying when talking about equality in jobs it has no right in being. Like fire fighters. If you can do the physical requirement awesome you can be a firefighter, but it should be an equal requirement that actually fufills the jobs requirement, life aint fair.
pleasepaypreacher.net
I think a lot of the cynicism with PA forumers with regards to politics is that for a lot of us young'ins the first things we saw as we were becoming politically aware, and really all we've ever really known, was either Clinton being crucified for getting a BJ and lying about it... and well... Bush.
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no this is bullshit
brown is old and lame
you guys have mark kirk and a long history of wonderful mayors/ governors; what more could you want?
Huzzah!
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