I didn't know Phantom Dust was that highly-regarded, thought it was more a cult title. Never did get to play it.
Phantom Dust is one of the definitions of "cult title".
Note that only 68 people voted for it, much akin to how Deadly Premonition didn't get many votes, but the folks that did vote for it tended to rank it as their #1 game.
Okay, I threw another script together. I'm actually kind of proud of this one. This is the top 25 average scores for mcc's polls from 2004-2010. Again, I'm only grabbing games with more than 10 votes, since the top 6 games would otherwise only have a vote or two.
Rank Avg Votes Year-ORnk. Game (Platforms)
1) 18.90 503 2006-1. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii, GC)
2) 18.47 440 2010-1. Mass Effect 2 (360,PC)
3) 18.37 210 2009-7. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3)
4) 18.32 471 2005-1. Resident Evil 4 (GC, PS2)
5) 18.25 289 2004-1. Half-Life 2 (PC)
6) 17.99 488 2008-1. Fallout 3 (PC, 360, PS3)
7) 17.91 445 2007-3. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)
8) 17.77 395 2009-2. Dragon Age: Origins (360,PC,PS3)
9) 17.75 537 2007-1. Portal (PC, PS3, 360)
10) 17.75 366 2006-2. Gears of War (360)
11) 17.74 438 2009-1. Batman: Arkham Asylum (360,PC,PS3)
12) 17.70 87 2008-26. Persona 4 (PS2)
13) 17.54 68 2005-32. Phantom Dust (XBox)
14) 17.51 154 2004-3. World of Warcraft (PC)
15) 17.48 336 2007-4. Mass Effect (360)
16) 17.33 230 2006-6. Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
17) 17.32 117 2008-15. Valkyria Chronicles (PS3)
18) 17.32 291 2005-3. Shadow of the Colossus (PS2)
19) 17.21 284 2010-2. Red Dead Redemption (360,PS3)
20) 17.08 388 2008-2. Left 4 Dead (360, PC)
21) 17.03 368 2006-3. Oblivion (360,PC)
22) 17.02 247 2009-6. Assassin's Creed II (360,PS3)
23) 17.02 174 2005-9. Civilization 4 (PC)
24) 16.99 234 2005-5. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (DS)
25) 16.99 110 2004-9. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2)[/SPOILER]
If it's trivial or even just easy, I would be interesting to see how this changes as you change the cutoff, say, from 10 to 25 to 50.
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I still think its incredible that Mass Effect 2 beat Starcraft 2. And that it was also beaten by Red Dead.
Obviously I'm biased towards SC2 because I fucking love the game, but it seems odd to me that such a hotly anticipated game has such a relatively poor showing.
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personally, I was quite disappointed with Starcraft 2, especially because I didn't much care for the mulitplayer (which is kind of the point of the whole game)
also being a strategy game and PC-only probably didn't help
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I am dumbfounded that Deadly Premonition made this list in any capacity. Damn that game is awful.
I still think its incredible that Mass Effect 2 beat Starcraft 2. And that it was also beaten by Red Dead.
Obviously I'm biased towards SC2 because I fucking love the game, but it seems odd to me that such a hotly anticipated game has such a relatively poor showing.
The same reason everyone has been talking (railing) about. By definition it would almost be a niche game, I'd say - only released for the PC, in a genre many are put off by, with a distinct focus on hardcore competitive multiplayer. However, it was still relatively popular, and it scored exceedingly high amongst those who did vote for it. It probably did about as well as it could, given the circumstances.
Anyone would be silly to discount popularity as part of the formula of what makes a game successful in polls like these. You can't simply say "The best game will appeal to the largest amount of people and thus be popular". Quite a bit more goes into what makes a game popular besides its actual quality. What can be said is that the top games have the correct combination of mass appeal and mass access.
These sorts of polls have all sorts of quirks. Remember that the Academy Awards are based on an industry poll, and all sorts of sentimental, bandwagon, and just plain wacky voting ensures strange results there.
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Huh. Uncharted 2 beat Batman but Batman won that year
Well, that is mostly a result of more people getting a chance to play the excellent Batman (3 platforms) vs. an excellent PS3 exclusive. The average helps to break apart the walls between exclusive vs. multi-platform. I'd be interested to see the breakdown of platform for some of these games, particularly ME2, because it is amazing to me the number of votes it got where I would assume most people played on 360 (though Steam sales helped the PC version, I'm sure.)
Huh. Uncharted 2 beat Batman but Batman won that year
Well, that is mostly a result of more people getting a chance to play the excellent Batman (3 platforms) vs. an excellent PS3 exclusive. The average helps to break apart the walls between exclusive vs. multi-platform. I'd be interested to see the breakdown of platform for some of these games, particularly ME2, because it is amazing to me the number of votes it got where I would assume most people played on 360 (though Steam sales helped the PC version, I'm sure.)
That was my reasoning for why I thought RDR would have beat ME2.
Full 2010 list, sorted by average, with more than 10 votes, with percentage of vote (I could sort this by number of votes, but the order should be the same as mcc's approval vote):
I agree on both counts. That's a really solid top 25 list from 2004-2010.
The only other thing I'd like to see is a breakdown of vote percentage over the last couple of years. Ie, for last year, Batman: Arkham Asylum had 46.4% of the vote, Dragon Age: Origins had 41.9% of the vote, etc. Just to see how out of whack this year was in comparison with ME2 getting 51.3% of the vote, followed by RDR getting 33.3% of the vote. That's a pretty huge gap between total votes between #1 and #2 for this year. Would be interesting to see even just the top 10 of each year for that.
Top 10 for each year, sorted by average score, more than 10 votes each, with percentages:
Okay, I threw another script together. I'm actually kind of proud of this one. This is the top 25 average scores for mcc's polls from 2004-2010. Again, I'm only grabbing games with more than 10 votes, since the top 6 games would otherwise only have a vote or two.
Rank Avg Votes Year-ORnk. Game (Platforms)
1) 18.90 503 2006-1. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii, GC)
2) 18.47 440 2010-1. Mass Effect 2 (360,PC)
3) 18.37 210 2009-7. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3)
4) 18.32 471 2005-1. Resident Evil 4 (GC, PS2)
5) 18.25 289 2004-1. Half-Life 2 (PC)
6) 17.99 488 2008-1. Fallout 3 (PC, 360, PS3)
7) 17.91 445 2007-3. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)
8) 17.77 395 2009-2. Dragon Age: Origins (360,PC,PS3)
9) 17.75 537 2007-1. Portal (PC, PS3, 360)
10) 17.75 366 2006-2. Gears of War (360)
11) 17.74 438 2009-1. Batman: Arkham Asylum (360,PC,PS3)
12) 17.70 87 2008-26. Persona 4 (PS2)
13) 17.54 68 2005-32. Phantom Dust (XBox)
14) 17.51 154 2004-3. World of Warcraft (PC)
15) 17.48 336 2007-4. Mass Effect (360)
16) 17.33 230 2006-6. Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
17) 17.32 117 2008-15. Valkyria Chronicles (PS3)
18) 17.32 291 2005-3. Shadow of the Colossus (PS2)
19) 17.21 284 2010-2. Red Dead Redemption (360,PS3)
20) 17.08 388 2008-2. Left 4 Dead (360, PC)
21) 17.03 368 2006-3. Oblivion (360,PC)
22) 17.02 247 2009-6. Assassin's Creed II (360,PS3)
23) 17.02 174 2005-9. Civilization 4 (PC)
24) 16.99 234 2005-5. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (DS)
25) 16.99 110 2004-9. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2)
If it's trivial or even just easy, I would be interesting to see how this changes as you change the cutoff, say, from 10 to 25 to 50.
Well, 25 or 50 wouldn't change anything for this top 25, since the game with the fewest votes (above the cutoff of 10) is Phantom Dust at 68 votes. So the cutoff would have to raise to 75 or 100 to even make a difference with that list. But for the hell of it, here's the top 50 list with no cutoff (forum CODE tag kind of screws with three spaces in a row, so it doesn't exactly line up):
Huh. Uncharted 2 beat Batman but Batman won that year
Well, that is mostly a result of more people getting a chance to play the excellent Batman (3 platforms) vs. an excellent PS3 exclusive. The average helps to break apart the walls between exclusive vs. multi-platform. I'd be interested to see the breakdown of platform for some of these games, particularly ME2, because it is amazing to me the number of votes it got where I would assume most people played on 360 (though Steam sales helped the PC version, I'm sure.)
That was my reasoning for why I thought RDR would have beat ME2.
Yeah, that is quite surprising. ME2 got 55% more votes total. I guess I didn't realize how dominant it would be, especially compared to a multi-platform title. I mean, both are the very definition of AAA titles. I see AAA titles as games that can have a commercial during normal primetime TV, rather than niche or AA titles that will have a commercial on G4 or Spike or something. (Which makes me think back, did Mario Galaxy 2 ever have those types of commercials? I know I remember NSMB Wii commercials, at least.)
Anyway, another list! This time, I ran the all years script, but sorted by percentage of the total vote:
It's interesting to me that those both seem like pretty damn good but pretty different lists. The percentage list (obviously) is skewed towards the really big games that a whole lot of people played, but it's not terrible. The Halo games and CoD4 are arguable, perhaps, but I don't think a person could be unhappy with having to play that list of 25. Everybody played Wii Sports, but it is interesting that its average is 16.26, meaning people had it in their top 5 or 6 on average? I guess it was interesting at the time, and bowling is still pretty great on it...but ranking it that high sort of surprises me. No Kinect or Move stuff was anywhere near that this year.
Huh. Uncharted 2 beat Batman but Batman won that year
Well, that is mostly a result of more people getting a chance to play the excellent Batman (3 platforms) vs. an excellent PS3 exclusive. The average helps to break apart the walls between exclusive vs. multi-platform. I'd be interested to see the breakdown of platform for some of these games, particularly ME2, because it is amazing to me the number of votes it got where I would assume most people played on 360 (though Steam sales helped the PC version, I'm sure.)
Well, I think it's also the different statistical methods used for both polls. More people voted Uncharted 2 as their #1 game of the year, but more people overall included Batman on their top game list.
So if you go by first place votes, Uncharted 2's going to rank higher. If you use other methods of weighing votes, Batman wins.
In general, though, games exclusive to one platform are going to have a harder time in these polls.
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Huh. Uncharted 2 beat Batman but Batman won that year
Well, that is mostly a result of more people getting a chance to play the excellent Batman (3 platforms) vs. an excellent PS3 exclusive. The average helps to break apart the walls between exclusive vs. multi-platform. I'd be interested to see the breakdown of platform for some of these games, particularly ME2, because it is amazing to me the number of votes it got where I would assume most people played on 360 (though Steam sales helped the PC version, I'm sure.)
Well, I think it's also the different statistical methods used for both polls. More people voted Uncharted 2 as their #1 game of the year, but more people overall included Batman on their top game list.
So if you go by first place votes, Uncharted 2's going to rank higher. If you use other methods of weighing votes, Batman wins.
In general, though, games exclusive to one platform are going to have a harder time in these polls.
Oh, yeah, I get that. Batman got more first place votes, actually, but just barely. (119 vs. 111) Really, that is astounding for a PS3 exclusive. That's why I like running my recalculation for average. Batman, for instance, got 119 first place, but then still got 99 second place votes, whereas Uncharted 2 got 111 first place and then had a drop-off to 34 second place votes.
Another statistic I might play around with is to look at the percentage of a game's votes that were first place votes, or something like that.
Geez, Rune Factory 3 rockets from 93rd to 10th with the average ranking. A lot of the games I voted for go up quite a bit by that ranking (I'm looking at you, BlazBlue), but none quite as ridiculous as that.
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RandomHajile that is some neat number crunching there.
Kind of interesting your method wound up being so charitable to the "cult" games (P4, Phantom Dust)
Hey, thanks. I appreciate that coming from the guy who runs the poll. (Also, thanks a bunch for running this poll every year.) I have the perl scripts and full results if you want them. I always find it interesting how high some games are ranked on average by just the people who got to play them, especially with cult games, but also with some AAA titles.
Uncharted 2 is a pretty neat case of that, but even if you look at this year, my method "helps" some games that I expected to do better overall considering the voting populace.
Mario Galaxy 2 moved from 7th to 3rd. While I was reading the threads, it seemed like a fair number of people played it, but were ranking it lower than I expected. It appears that the people who played it liked it quite a bit (it is an excellent game, but the mechanics are very similar to 1).
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood moved from 11th to 5th. I assume that is at least in part due to coming out pretty late in the year. I just got it for Christmas, and I was lucky to get around to playing it before voting. Part of me wonders how many people have a large backlog and will wait for it to drop in price (though I think it has been on sale for $35 or $40). If anyone is waiting, jump on the next sale you see, because this is a very good game. Both the single and multi are great.
WoW: Cataclysm moving from 15th to 6th is interesting, but that is a result of a group of really dedicated fans voting on a form of digitized crack rock.
Seeing the PC exclusive S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat move up from 37th to 8th is incredible. Again, I have a feeling that Steam sales helped this game move up. (I should get around to playing the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games, since I have owned SoC for a while, and the classy gent CarbonFire gifted me CoP.) Actually, this result shows how well Starcraft 2 did as an exclusive. It got 241 votes, just behind the 284 for RDR.
Rune Factory 3 had a pretty healthy move from 93rd to 10th. It's close to the cutoff, but on average it ranked between 5th and 6th for people who voted for it. DQIX took a lot of the DS RPG vote, I suppose, but RF3 seemed to be better regarded. I guess that assumes people played both, though, which may not be the case.
Hmm, very interesting. The difference between percentage of total votes between the #1 overall and #2 overall according to mcc's methods has ranged from 4.5% to 21%, with this year's 18% being the 2nd highest ever. I mean, really, that's kind of a shocking drop-off. Not only that, but at 33.10% of the vote, RDR has the lowest percentage of the overall vote for any #2 ranked game.
Not sure if it really means anything, but is interesting regardless.
As for RF3 - that is definitely an unheralded game in a very niche genre. It took about a month from release date for any reviews to show up, though they've all been pretty positive. So it's really only the RF diehards that would likely would have realized it was out and bought it, and of course they'd rate it highly. Speaking of which, I still need to buy it.
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The fact that Castlevania and Dead Rising 2 ended up lower on the list than Final Fantasy XIII sort of makes me ill
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19) | 14.79 | 52 | 6.06% | 41. Castlevania: Lords of Shadow (360,PS3)
55) | 13.10 | 100 | 11.66% | 32. Dead Rising 2 (360,PC,PS3)
72) | 12.54 | 110 | 12.82% | 26. Final Fantasy 13 (360,PS3)
I haven't played any of the three, but that shows how close the margins are on a popularity contest ranking. FF13 having just 10 more votes than DR2 at an average of 12.54 points per vote is worth 6 spots in the normal ranking.
Also, I think it would be interesting to see where a pair of games rank when compared to each other by everyone who voted for both games. I think it could be especially interesting to compare exclusives on different platforms. I can't do that without the raw data, though.
Okay, I threw another script together. I'm actually kind of proud of this one. This is the top 25 average scores for mcc's polls from 2004-2010. Again, I'm only grabbing games with more than 10 votes, since the top 6 games would otherwise only have a vote or two.
Rank Avg Votes Year-ORnk. Game (Platforms)
1) 18.90 503 2006-1. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii, GC)
2) 18.47 440 2010-1. Mass Effect 2 (360,PC)
3) 18.37 210 2009-7. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3)
4) 18.32 471 2005-1. Resident Evil 4 (GC, PS2)
5) 18.25 289 2004-1. Half-Life 2 (PC)
6) 17.99 488 2008-1. Fallout 3 (PC, 360, PS3)
7) 17.91 445 2007-3. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)
8) 17.77 395 2009-2. Dragon Age: Origins (360,PC,PS3)
9) 17.75 537 2007-1. Portal (PC, PS3, 360)
10) 17.75 366 2006-2. Gears of War (360)
11) 17.74 438 2009-1. Batman: Arkham Asylum (360,PC,PS3)
12) 17.70 87 2008-26. Persona 4 (PS2)
13) 17.54 68 2005-32. Phantom Dust (XBox)
14) 17.51 154 2004-3. World of Warcraft (PC)
15) 17.48 336 2007-4. Mass Effect (360)
16) 17.33 230 2006-6. Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
17) 17.32 117 2008-15. Valkyria Chronicles (PS3)
18) 17.32 291 2005-3. Shadow of the Colossus (PS2)
19) 17.21 284 2010-2. Red Dead Redemption (360,PS3)
20) 17.08 388 2008-2. Left 4 Dead (360, PC)
21) 17.03 368 2006-3. Oblivion (360,PC)
22) 17.02 247 2009-6. Assassin's Creed II (360,PS3)
23) 17.02 174 2005-9. Civilization 4 (PC)
24) 16.99 234 2005-5. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (DS)
25) 16.99 110 2004-9. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2)
I don't give a damn about the disgruntled rebels, the list above makes it very clear that the opinions of PAF people are very sound as far as my own opinions go. I like being here because the opinions flying around meld with mine. I don't want the world to be like me, but I damn sure wanna be in a place where people have similar gaming tastes.
That's a really awesome list. And I agree with the 2010 results.
I still think its incredible that Mass Effect 2 beat Starcraft 2. And that it was also beaten by Red Dead.
Obviously I'm biased towards SC2 because I fucking love the game, but it seems odd to me that such a hotly anticipated game has such a relatively poor showing.
ME2 is a pretty huge (and excellent) game too and its cross platform. I am surprised RDR beat SC2 but that might be platform related.
Ditto... however, Bayonetta only took my #1 vote because it won a coin toss against ME2. I just couldn't decide on my own. I enjoyed both titles immensely.
I blame a general lack of appreciation for the fine art of the combat dance-off.
I blame that as well as poor timing. If I recall, Bayonetta was among the first big name releases for 2010 that barely missed the 2009 clusterfuck holiday release season. It was released at the very beginning of January 2010 so Bayonetta basically had an entire year's worth of great games to stack up against... and that sometimes clouds judgement with newer, shinier titles that released throughout the rest of the year.
Same goes for Darksiders, too, I guess. If I recall, they both released day and date with each other. But I never got the chance to try Darksiders out. I was hypnotized by break dance gun-fu fighting. With rocket launchers.
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Phantom Dust is one of the definitions of "cult title".
Note that only 68 people voted for it, much akin to how Deadly Premonition didn't get many votes, but the folks that did vote for it tended to rank it as their #1 game.
If it's trivial or even just easy, I would be interesting to see how this changes as you change the cutoff, say, from 10 to 25 to 50.
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Obviously I'm biased towards SC2 because I fucking love the game, but it seems odd to me that such a hotly anticipated game has such a relatively poor showing.
also being a strategy game and PC-only probably didn't help
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The same reason everyone has been talking (railing) about. By definition it would almost be a niche game, I'd say - only released for the PC, in a genre many are put off by, with a distinct focus on hardcore competitive multiplayer. However, it was still relatively popular, and it scored exceedingly high amongst those who did vote for it. It probably did about as well as it could, given the circumstances.
Anyone would be silly to discount popularity as part of the formula of what makes a game successful in polls like these. You can't simply say "The best game will appeal to the largest amount of people and thus be popular". Quite a bit more goes into what makes a game popular besides its actual quality. What can be said is that the top games have the correct combination of mass appeal and mass access.
These sorts of polls have all sorts of quirks. Remember that the Academy Awards are based on an industry poll, and all sorts of sentimental, bandwagon, and just plain wacky voting ensures strange results there.
Well, that is mostly a result of more people getting a chance to play the excellent Batman (3 platforms) vs. an excellent PS3 exclusive. The average helps to break apart the walls between exclusive vs. multi-platform. I'd be interested to see the breakdown of platform for some of these games, particularly ME2, because it is amazing to me the number of votes it got where I would assume most people played on 360 (though Steam sales helped the PC version, I'm sure.)
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That was my reasoning for why I thought RDR would have beat ME2.
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Full 2010 list, sorted by average, with more than 10 votes, with percentage of vote (I could sort this by number of votes, but the order should be the same as mcc's approval vote):
Top 10 for each year, sorted by average score, more than 10 votes each, with percentages:
Well, 25 or 50 wouldn't change anything for this top 25, since the game with the fewest votes (above the cutoff of 10) is Phantom Dust at 68 votes. So the cutoff would have to raise to 75 or 100 to even make a difference with that list. But for the hell of it, here's the top 50 list with no cutoff (forum CODE tag kind of screws with three spaces in a row, so it doesn't exactly line up):
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It would've definitely been in my top 10 somewhere.
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Yeah, that is quite surprising. ME2 got 55% more votes total. I guess I didn't realize how dominant it would be, especially compared to a multi-platform title. I mean, both are the very definition of AAA titles. I see AAA titles as games that can have a commercial during normal primetime TV, rather than niche or AA titles that will have a commercial on G4 or Spike or something. (Which makes me think back, did Mario Galaxy 2 ever have those types of commercials? I know I remember NSMB Wii commercials, at least.)
Anyway, another list! This time, I ran the all years script, but sorted by percentage of the total vote:
It's interesting to me that those both seem like pretty damn good but pretty different lists. The percentage list (obviously) is skewed towards the really big games that a whole lot of people played, but it's not terrible. The Halo games and CoD4 are arguable, perhaps, but I don't think a person could be unhappy with having to play that list of 25. Everybody played Wii Sports, but it is interesting that its average is 16.26, meaning people had it in their top 5 or 6 on average? I guess it was interesting at the time, and bowling is still pretty great on it...but ranking it that high sort of surprises me. No Kinect or Move stuff was anywhere near that this year.
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Well, I think it's also the different statistical methods used for both polls. More people voted Uncharted 2 as their #1 game of the year, but more people overall included Batman on their top game list.
So if you go by first place votes, Uncharted 2's going to rank higher. If you use other methods of weighing votes, Batman wins.
In general, though, games exclusive to one platform are going to have a harder time in these polls.
Oh, yeah, I get that. Batman got more first place votes, actually, but just barely. (119 vs. 111) Really, that is astounding for a PS3 exclusive. That's why I like running my recalculation for average. Batman, for instance, got 119 first place, but then still got 99 second place votes, whereas Uncharted 2 got 111 first place and then had a drop-off to 34 second place votes.
Another statistic I might play around with is to look at the percentage of a game's votes that were first place votes, or something like that.
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Kind of interesting your method wound up being so charitable to the "cult" games (P4, Phantom Dust)
It also jumped Deadly Premonition up to #15 for this years poll. Pretty cool.
Hey, thanks. I appreciate that coming from the guy who runs the poll. (Also, thanks a bunch for running this poll every year.) I have the perl scripts and full results if you want them. I always find it interesting how high some games are ranked on average by just the people who got to play them, especially with cult games, but also with some AAA titles.
Uncharted 2 is a pretty neat case of that, but even if you look at this year, my method "helps" some games that I expected to do better overall considering the voting populace.
Mario Galaxy 2 moved from 7th to 3rd. While I was reading the threads, it seemed like a fair number of people played it, but were ranking it lower than I expected. It appears that the people who played it liked it quite a bit (it is an excellent game, but the mechanics are very similar to 1).
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood moved from 11th to 5th. I assume that is at least in part due to coming out pretty late in the year. I just got it for Christmas, and I was lucky to get around to playing it before voting. Part of me wonders how many people have a large backlog and will wait for it to drop in price (though I think it has been on sale for $35 or $40). If anyone is waiting, jump on the next sale you see, because this is a very good game. Both the single and multi are great.
WoW: Cataclysm moving from 15th to 6th is interesting, but that is a result of a group of really dedicated fans voting on a form of digitized crack rock.
Seeing the PC exclusive S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat move up from 37th to 8th is incredible. Again, I have a feeling that Steam sales helped this game move up. (I should get around to playing the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games, since I have owned SoC for a while, and the classy gent CarbonFire gifted me CoP.) Actually, this result shows how well Starcraft 2 did as an exclusive. It got 241 votes, just behind the 284 for RDR.
Rune Factory 3 had a pretty healthy move from 93rd to 10th. It's close to the cutoff, but on average it ranked between 5th and 6th for people who voted for it. DQIX took a lot of the DS RPG vote, I suppose, but RF3 seemed to be better regarded. I guess that assumes people played both, though, which may not be the case.
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Hmm, very interesting. The difference between percentage of total votes between the #1 overall and #2 overall according to mcc's methods has ranged from 4.5% to 21%, with this year's 18% being the 2nd highest ever. I mean, really, that's kind of a shocking drop-off. Not only that, but at 33.10% of the vote, RDR has the lowest percentage of the overall vote for any #2 ranked game.
Not sure if it really means anything, but is interesting regardless.
As for RF3 - that is definitely an unheralded game in a very niche genre. It took about a month from release date for any reviews to show up, though they've all been pretty positive. So it's really only the RF diehards that would likely would have realized it was out and bought it, and of course they'd rate it highly. Speaking of which, I still need to buy it.
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Take heart, robot friend! I haven't played any of the three, but that shows how close the margins are on a popularity contest ranking. FF13 having just 10 more votes than DR2 at an average of 12.54 points per vote is worth 6 spots in the normal ranking.
Also, I think it would be interesting to see where a pair of games rank when compared to each other by everyone who voted for both games. I think it could be especially interesting to compare exclusives on different platforms. I can't do that without the raw data, though.
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I don't give a damn about the disgruntled rebels, the list above makes it very clear that the opinions of PAF people are very sound as far as my own opinions go. I like being here because the opinions flying around meld with mine. I don't want the world to be like me, but I damn sure wanna be in a place where people have similar gaming tastes.
That's a really awesome list. And I agree with the 2010 results.
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ME2 is a pretty huge (and excellent) game too and its cross platform. I am surprised RDR beat SC2 but that might be platform related.
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I blame a general lack of appreciation for the fine art of the combat dance-off.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
Hell yes it is.
Ditto... however, Bayonetta only took my #1 vote because it won a coin toss against ME2. I just couldn't decide on my own. I enjoyed both titles immensely.
I blame that as well as poor timing. If I recall, Bayonetta was among the first big name releases for 2010 that barely missed the 2009 clusterfuck holiday release season. It was released at the very beginning of January 2010 so Bayonetta basically had an entire year's worth of great games to stack up against... and that sometimes clouds judgement with newer, shinier titles that released throughout the rest of the year.
Same goes for Darksiders, too, I guess. If I recall, they both released day and date with each other. But I never got the chance to try Darksiders out. I was hypnotized by break dance gun-fu fighting. With rocket launchers.