I am in a similar position to nyht. My girlfriend just hit the min level for heroic but I know nothing about mages other than a few read through on EJ. Is there a calculator I can plug here gear into and see what here dps "should" be at? She's currently fire at the suggestion of a guildy, and like I said just hit level 330. She wants to do better but I have no idea if the dps she is putting out is good or not.
Picked up an old mage character I had laying around who is at level 70. Decided to spec her into fire cause insta-cast Pyro Blasts sounded like fun.
I ran two random dungeons earlier and I gotta admit, I'm not really sure what I should be running for a spell rotation. At 70 is fireball still my bread and butter? What or when do I want to throw a scorch into the mix? Do I ever want to cast fireblast during my rotation? What about Frostfire Bolt? I've never had this spell before. I just got it from the class trainer a little bit before I ran the dungeon.
I've been away from the mage class for over 2 years, so I basically am having to relearn everything again.
Depends.
If mana is low, or you wanna conserve mana, 5 scorches 2 fireballs is the best. Otherwise just open with it. Fire Blast is only used when Impact procs and you want to spread your Dots around.
Frostfire Bolt is more a Frost thing nowadays, since talent changes made Frostfire not viable.
As for Rotation:
Open with Scorch (cast it while getting into position)
Living Bomb (generally best not to let it go off, but it's the same GCD whether you refresh it at .3s left or after it explodes)
Fireball
Pyroblast as it comes up
Fire Blast when Impact procs (IF you want dots spreading. If there's too much CC around, don't bother).
That's incorrect regarding Living Bomb, Muffin. You never want to recast LB until it goes off unless for some reason you don't want the AoE. At 70 you can spam fireball and only cast scorch to keep critical mass up. So you only cast it right before the debuff wears off, refresh living bomb when it expires and cast pyroblast! (the free one, versus pyroblast without a !, the not free one) when it Hotstreak procs. At 85, though, you don't have the mana to use fireball near as much, so you spam free scorches a lot to conserve mana then burn with fireball when optimal.
That's incorrect regarding Living Bomb, Muffin. You never want to recast LB until it goes off unless for some reason you don't want the AoE. At 70 you can spam fireball and only cast scorch to keep critical mass up. So you only cast it right before the debuff wears off, refresh living bomb when it expires and cast pyroblast! (the free one, versus pyroblast without a !, the not free one) when it Hotstreak procs. At 85, though, you don't have the mana to use fireball near as much, so you spam free scorches a lot to conserve mana then burn with fireball when optimal.
living bomb ticks for more than the explosion, so on bosses you want to refresh it early.
also i've done 1.5 million with deep freeze on ozumat. kind of not looking forward to the nerfs in the patch notes...
I haven't crunched the numbers myself and all that, but if you refresh it early you lose the last tick and yeah, the explosion. Which loses you procs and costs more mana since you're casting it more. These guys get into the math, though I don't know if they're still talking about LB since it was established a long time ago clipping is bad.
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oh, the last tick happens at the same time as the explosion?
i remember reading on ej to refresh before the explosion but whatever, fire is kind of terrible anyway and everyone should play frost
Arcane is terrible! But fire feels kind of like arcane! And frost can't double ice block since the stupid hypothermia change years ago, so they're all terrible! Re-rolling OP Druids is the only answer! TAUREN Druids. Those asses can pick while in flight form AND in half a second!!!
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Arcane is terrible! But fire feels kind of like arcane! And frost can't double ice block since the stupid hypothermia change years ago, so they're all terrible! Re-rolling OP Druids is the only answer! TAUREN Druids. Those asses can pick while in flight form AND in half a second!!!
I actually feel really bad for druids. They are currently in a lull.
That's incorrect regarding Living Bomb, Muffin. You never want to recast LB until it goes off unless for some reason you don't want the AoE. At 70 you can spam fireball and only cast scorch to keep critical mass up. So you only cast it right before the debuff wears off, refresh living bomb when it expires and cast pyroblast! (the free one, versus pyroblast without a !, the not free one) when it Hotstreak procs. At 85, though, you don't have the mana to use fireball near as much, so you spam free scorches a lot to conserve mana then burn with fireball when optimal.
I was told that the explosion doesn't do as much damage so it's better to refresh it and cut down on time it's not doing damage.
Might just have been so our mastery's not totally useless every 3 minutes.
Its not a proc rate, its when you get 2 crits in a row on a non-periodic spell. But it is very streaky. There are fights where I wont get a single one, and other fights Ive gotten 3 in a row, off of the Pyroblast crits.
Its not a proc rate, its when you get 2 crits in a row on a non-periodic spell. But it is very streaky. There are fights where I wont get a single one, and other fights Ive gotten 3 in a row, off of the Pyroblast crits.
I'd forgotten until he mentioned it, but doesn't the first point in Hot Streak now change it so you now proc instant pyro instead of Arcane missiles or something? (and then the next 2 provide the normal functionality of 2 crits -> Pyro!)
Of course, the whole 'spells proc arcane missiles' thing was a boat I missed entirely.
Its not a proc rate, its when you get 2 crits in a row on a non-periodic spell. But it is very streaky. There are fights where I wont get a single one, and other fights Ive gotten 3 in a row, off of the Pyroblast crits.
I'd forgotten until he mentioned it, but doesn't the first point in Hot Streak now change it so you now proc instant pyro instead of Arcane missiles or something? (and then the next 2 provide the normal functionality of 2 crits -> Pyro!)
Of course, the whole 'spells proc arcane missiles' thing was a boat I missed entirely.
Yes.
And there's no way Deathwing will be immune to any school. They thankfully did away with that mechanic a long time ago.
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I ran two random dungeons earlier and I gotta admit, I'm not really sure what I should be running for a spell rotation. At 70 is fireball still my bread and butter? What or when do I want to throw a scorch into the mix? Do I ever want to cast fireblast during my rotation? What about Frostfire Bolt? I've never had this spell before. I just got it from the class trainer a little bit before I ran the dungeon.
I've been away from the mage class for over 2 years, so I basically am having to relearn everything again.
If mana is low, or you wanna conserve mana, 5 scorches 2 fireballs is the best. Otherwise just open with it. Fire Blast is only used when Impact procs and you want to spread your Dots around.
Frostfire Bolt is more a Frost thing nowadays, since talent changes made Frostfire not viable.
As for Rotation:
Open with Scorch (cast it while getting into position)
Living Bomb (generally best not to let it go off, but it's the same GCD whether you refresh it at .3s left or after it explodes)
Fireball
Pyroblast as it comes up
Fire Blast when Impact procs (IF you want dots spreading. If there's too much CC around, don't bother).
living bomb ticks for more than the explosion, so on bosses you want to refresh it early.
also i've done 1.5 million with deep freeze on ozumat. kind of not looking forward to the nerfs in the patch notes...
i remember reading on ej to refresh before the explosion but whatever, fire is kind of terrible anyway and everyone should play frost
I actually feel really bad for druids. They are currently in a lull.
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I was told that the explosion doesn't do as much damage so it's better to refresh it and cut down on time it's not doing damage.
Might just have been so our mastery's not totally useless every 3 minutes.
And is fire the best spec in terms of dungeon and raid dps? Or is there a better spec?
All the specs are comparable more or less and it depends on gear etc etc. Play what you want.
I'd forgotten until he mentioned it, but doesn't the first point in Hot Streak now change it so you now proc instant pyro instead of Arcane missiles or something? (and then the next 2 provide the normal functionality of 2 crits -> Pyro!)
Of course, the whole 'spells proc arcane missiles' thing was a boat I missed entirely.
Yes.
And there's no way Deathwing will be immune to any school. They thankfully did away with that mechanic a long time ago.
If this was vanilla WoW or Dungeons & Dragons, yes, he would be.