Hah. So let me get this straight. We already have a perfectly fine f-35 engine, but the military-industrial complex convinced congress to authorize developing another one, so that they could hypothetically maybe compete with the existing engine and drive the price of both engines? That's a laugh.
Well, as long as GE and Rolls Royce don't convince the Senate to undo the decision, that's the end of that plan. We shall see, I suppose.
Are there even enough tea party republicans and Dems to make a majority in the house?
Hard to say. In this case, this vote was spilt in odd ways. The "defense spending is always sacrosanct" crowd combined with the "hey, those engine parts are produced in my district" crowd was only 198 votes. 110 republicans broke ranks with Boehner to kill the engine. Future defense cuts will probably vary depending on how duplicative the project is, and how widely spread the sweet, sweet pork is.
That because birth control makes sense for controlling out of control population growth, but when human use it it is EVIL.
The proposal as described sounds pretty good, actually. When it's a Republican idea I usually wait for the other sociopathic shoe to drop, but I don't see one.
Are the TEApers actually contributing to reasonable legislation?
That because birth control makes sense for controlling out of control population growth, but when human use it it is EVIL.
The proposal as described sounds pretty good, actually. When it's a Republican idea I usually wait for the other sociopathic shoe to drop, but I don't see one.
Are the TEApers actually contributing to reasonable legislation?
They already helped kill one piece of unnecessary military pork.
I don't think this proposal is a bad idea, necessarily, not that I'm really up on the whole donkey control issue. I just found the juxtaposition to be funny.
Hah. So let me get this straight. We already have a perfectly fine f-35 engine, but the military-industrial complex convinced congress to authorize developing another one, so that they could hypothetically maybe compete with the existing engine and drive the price of both engines? That's a laugh.
Well, as long as GE and Rolls Royce don't convince the Senate to undo the decision, that's the end of that plan. We shall see, I suppose.
In fact, it may be even more ridiculous than that. If I recall correctly the air force actually came out against the second engine, and asked for it not to be funded so that they could have some of the money to spend on other stuff and the country could have the rest back, but the Republicans voted to build it anyway.
The problem is though that what we need to see is the research funding restored to the DOE, NIH and NIST. Well, at least not cut so horribly. We'll be seeing national labs closing if this bill passes.
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Hah. So let me get this straight. We already have a perfectly fine f-35 engine, but the military-industrial complex convinced congress to authorize developing another one, so that they could hypothetically maybe compete with the existing engine and drive the price of both engines? That's a laugh.
Well, as long as GE and Rolls Royce don't convince the Senate to undo the decision, that's the end of that plan. We shall see, I suppose.
Actually, the military has said "Actually, that was a terrible idea, we need to kill it".
Hah. So let me get this straight. We already have a perfectly fine f-35 engine, but the military-industrial complex convinced congress to authorize developing another one, so that they could hypothetically maybe compete with the existing engine and drive the price of both engines? That's a laugh.
Well, as long as GE and Rolls Royce don't convince the Senate to undo the decision, that's the end of that plan. We shall see, I suppose.
Actually, the military has said "Actually, that was a terrible idea, we need to kill it".
But basically, something along those lines, yes.
Wasn't it similar to the refueling planes the Air Force said they didn't want, but congress insisted on increasing the order for anyways? At some level, defense spending is closely tied to how many senators you can build the things near so someone will demand we buy X product that the military really doesn't want.
Americans are "on our knees in front of China for credit," DeMint told the mostly conservative attendees feasting on fried rice and fortune cookies at Tony Chang's restaurant in the Chinatown section of D.C.
That just solved our budget problems in one fell swoop.
I often joke about the electoral zombie apocalypse.
I think we just kicked it off.
The article is a bit funky there.
I haven't heard anything about them and getting rid of medicare, but the thing with their governor recently is he rejected stimulus funds (about 2 billion dollars worth) that were to go towards building the line for a high speed rail system connecting Orlando to Tampa, and going on about something like "spending more money than you're taking in"
No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.
So unless they simply authorize payment of debts in gold and silver, the idea is a non-starter.
Although, speaking of early American history, weren't a few states talking about trying to bring back the "Nullification" Nonsense? I thought Andrew Jackson had sorted that crap out already.
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What exact situation could possibly occur in which the Dollar would be completely devalued, and yet South Carolina's economy would be doing well enough to support a currency?
What exact situation could possibly occur in which the Dollar would be completely devalued, and yet South Carolina's economy would be doing well enough to support a currency?
What exact situation could possibly occur in which the Dollar would be completely devalued, and yet South Carolina's economy would be doing well enough to support a currency?
Edit: I forgot that it was unconstitutional.
Zombies invade everywhere but SC.
The bullets in AZ's lead based currency would be worth more then whatever the fuck South Carolina comes up with.
So let me get this straight. She proposes cutting Army sponsorship of Nascar, taking public and taxpayer funds out of what is basically a private commercial enterprise or whatever. Her office is then bombarded with people screaming, as they say in the article, "Get your hands off my NASCAR" and a fax calling for the death of "marxists".
Never have I hated a single concept and all the people who enjoy it and are associated with it as I do fucking Nascar. :x
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So let me get this straight. She proposes cutting Army sponsorship of Nascar, taking public and taxpayer funds out of what is basically a private commercial enterprise or whatever. Her office is then bombarded with people screaming, as they say in the article, "Get your hands off my NASCAR" and a fax calling for the death of "marxists".
Never have I hated a single concept and all the people who enjoy it and are associated with it as I do fucking Nascar. :x
I can think of a couple. They tend to wear things like white sheets.
Yeah, this is basically just advertising. If NASCAR is so effing patriotic, why don't they carry the army logo for free? But no, they're all about making money. Which is the principle behind professional sports. But they shouldn't get so upset when advertisers decide that the money they're spending isn't getting the results they want.
They can go ahead and sell the space to a company that will actually get results from sticking an ad on race car.
So let me get this straight. She proposes cutting Army sponsorship of Nascar, taking public and taxpayer funds out of what is basically a private commercial enterprise or whatever. Her office is then bombarded with people screaming, as they say in the article, "Get your hands off my NASCAR" and a fax calling for the death of "marxists".
Never have I hated a single concept and all the people who enjoy it and are associated with it as I do fucking Nascar. :x
I can think of a couple. They tend to wear things like white sheets.
Yeah, this is basically just advertising. If NASCAR is so effing patriotic, why don't they carry the army logo for free? But no, they're all about making money. Which is the principle behind professional sports. But they shouldn't get so upset when advertisers decide that the money they're spending isn't getting the results they want.
They can go ahead and sell the space to a company that will actually get results from sticking an ad on race car.
If NASCAR gives the military free advertising, then how is the private sector supposed to compete?!
Yeah, this is basically just advertising. If NASCAR is so effing patriotic, why don't they carry the army logo for free? But no, they're all about making money. Which is the principle behind professional sports. But they shouldn't get so upset when advertisers decide that the money they're spending isn't getting the results they want.
They can go ahead and sell the space to a company that will actually get results from sticking an ad on race car.
If NASCAR gives the military free advertising, then how is the private sector supposed to compete?!
They can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.
No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.
So unless they simply authorize payment of debts in gold and silver, the idea is a non-starter.
Although, speaking of early American history, weren't a few states talking about trying to bring back the "Nullification" Nonsense? I thought Andrew Jackson had sorted that crap out already.
If you're going to give credit to a President for sorting it out, it would be Abraham Lincoln.
Really, though, the people who sorted it out were Grant and Sherman. I'd be happy to have a repeat, if the South is up for it.
Eh, it was more of a population/industrial capacity thing. Grant simply threw wave after wave of union soldiers at the rebels until they reached their pre-set kill limit and shut down.
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Well, as long as GE and Rolls Royce don't convince the Senate to undo the decision, that's the end of that plan. We shall see, I suppose.
Hard to say. In this case, this vote was spilt in odd ways. The "defense spending is always sacrosanct" crowd combined with the "hey, those engine parts are produced in my district" crowd was only 198 votes. 110 republicans broke ranks with Boehner to kill the engine. Future defense cuts will probably vary depending on how duplicative the project is, and how widely spread the sweet, sweet pork is.
The proposal as described sounds pretty good, actually. When it's a Republican idea I usually wait for the other sociopathic shoe to drop, but I don't see one.
Are the TEApers actually contributing to reasonable legislation?
I don't think this proposal is a bad idea, necessarily, not that I'm really up on the whole donkey control issue. I just found the juxtaposition to be funny.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
In fact, it may be even more ridiculous than that. If I recall correctly the air force actually came out against the second engine, and asked for it not to be funded so that they could have some of the money to spend on other stuff and the country could have the rest back, but the Republicans voted to build it anyway.
The problem is though that what we need to see is the research funding restored to the DOE, NIH and NIST. Well, at least not cut so horribly. We'll be seeing national labs closing if this bill passes.
Actually, the military has said "Actually, that was a terrible idea, we need to kill it".
But basically, something along those lines, yes.
Wasn't it similar to the refueling planes the Air Force said they didn't want, but congress insisted on increasing the order for anyways? At some level, defense spending is closely tied to how many senators you can build the things near so someone will demand we buy X product that the military really doesn't want.
Can't make this shit up, folks.
"It's pretty clear this President is not going to lead," DeMint explained to his audience. "We've got to replace this President."
So your not-leader won't lead so you want to replace him with someone who will... lead?
edit: This is linked in that article, woo [strike]GOOOOOLD[/strike] alternate currencies
That just solved our budget problems in one fell swoop.
I think we just kicked it off.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
That'll be the day the Republican party cedes Florida to Democrats forever. The GOP is crazy down here, not stupid.
Joyce Kaufmann isn't the GOP.
Oh South Carolina.
You and your bizarre need to flip off the Union
The article is a bit funky there.
I haven't heard anything about them and getting rid of medicare, but the thing with their governor recently is he rejected stimulus funds (about 2 billion dollars worth) that were to go towards building the line for a high speed rail system connecting Orlando to Tampa, and going on about something like "spending more money than you're taking in"
So unless they simply authorize payment of debts in gold and silver, the idea is a non-starter.
Although, speaking of early American history, weren't a few states talking about trying to bring back the "Nullification" Nonsense? I thought Andrew Jackson had sorted that crap out already.
Edit: I forgot that it was unconstitutional.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
The bullets in AZ's lead based currency would be worth more then whatever the fuck South Carolina comes up with.
On the list of things that might encourage signing up for the army, a NASCAR sponsorship is not one of those.
Never have I hated a single concept and all the people who enjoy it and are associated with it as I do fucking Nascar. :x
I can think of a couple. They tend to wear things like white sheets.
They can go ahead and sell the space to a company that will actually get results from sticking an ad on race car.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
If NASCAR gives the military free advertising, then how is the private sector supposed to compete?!
They can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.
Or, I guess...lugnuts
Lugnuts.
What, do fax lines not have *69 or caller id?
Really, though, the people who sorted it out were Grant and Sherman. I'd be happy to have a repeat, if the South is up for it.