So this game has just gone from holy shit hard to what the fuck do I even do hard. This game. For some reason I keep going back even after failing miserably tons of times in a row. It's so damn addicting.
Oh and I'm at...level 3 of Stage 6. Shit is getting real.
EDIT: On Normal.
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"You're like a kitten! A kitten who doesn't speak Japanese." ~ Juliet Starling
Yeah from what I know it is. Most areas have two levels + Boss Stage but this one has 3 levels + Boss stage and oh my god. I just tried again for another hour or more but I can't solve this thing....It's nagging at me.
Seriously whenever I'm just sitting down I sit there going through different patterns in my head to set up stairways to reach the tops of certain walls I create in my head. This game is eating me.
Oh and stage 7 I see above has 4 levels + Boss but...not there yet. And whatever stage 8 has I have no clue.
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"You're like a kitten! A kitten who doesn't speak Japanese." ~ Juliet Starling
Man I'm realy tempted to get a kanji dictionary and give this game an import. My oral Japanese is rusty as hell and was never realy good but my kanji has always been abysmal. Why couldn't they just stick to one alphabet like most civilizations?
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Psychotic OneThe Lord of No PantsParts UnknownRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
I am really intrested in this game but I am disappointed by a lack of release date for US yet. This is leading me with seldom choice but to fly to Japan. Kidnap an old man, steal a japanese Xbox and a copy of this game, and then convince the old man that translating this game into English is some sort of game show.
I am really intrested in this game but I am disappointed by a lack of release date for US yet. This is leading me with seldom choice but to fly to Japan. Kidnap an old man, steal a japanese Xbox and a copy of this game, and then convince the old man that translating this game into English is some sort of game show.
I am really intrested in this game but I am disappointed by a lack of release date for US yet. This is leading me with seldom choice but to fly to Japan. Kidnap an old man, steal a japanese Xbox and a copy of this game, and then convince the old man that translating this game into English is some sort of game show.
Oh boy, it's time for the Raitoningu Raundo!
Fixed that for ya.
Serriously I should import this. Literaly one week after I got my copy of Demon's Souls the US version was announced. So logically this would make the US version of Catherine get fast tracked.
Ugh, this is way too frustrating. There's no way I'm going through multiple playthroughs.
See what I mean? Shit is hard man. I don't find it hatefully aggravating luckily. I just find it wow what the hell hard. Still stuck on the same level. But I did just reach a checkpoint and there's a pillow right above i can always reach so it's time to figure this out.
Edit: and for people who don't mind kind of a gist of the story the first half is on Justin.tv under RedSunGamers profile. Thats how I got through the first half knowing what was going on. They said no new releases next week as far as Japanese games go so they may just do the next half of Catherine. So I mean. If you wanna wait and see then if they do it you can just use that to get through the scenes. It's not a perfect translation but the guy does it on the fly as the other guy is going through and it works perfectly well enough. I mean I'm definitely buying this in English if it comes out but It's nice to know what's up. So with any luck they'll do that next half.
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"You're like a kitten! A kitten who doesn't speak Japanese." ~ Juliet Starling
Meh... the plot is pretty good but it's nothing special. The gameplay wouldn't be that bad if they gave you infinite lives and instant respawn, but it's so annoying to have to do go through the "Love is Over" screen every single time.
I'm stopping for the night on 6-2. I'll probably soldier on through the game, but it's really not very good.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentThe World on This SideRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
Well, someone in SE++ volunteered to help me through the dialogue, so hopefully that works out.
And I'll probably continue with my plans to stream it, because why not. Some help's better than none.
I'm generally good with adapting to challenges, so I'm sure I'll be fine. (Not watching the RedSun stream at all, I'm going in blind.)
I guess I'll have it on Monday or Tuesday, looks like.
Meh... the plot is pretty good but it's nothing special. The gameplay wouldn't be that bad if they gave you infinite lives and instant respawn, but it's so annoying to have to do go through the "Love is Over" screen every single time.
I'm stopping for the night on 6-2. I'll probably soldier on through the game, but it's really not very good.
I actually really like the story so far, and as far as the gameplay goes I'm also really liking that too. I don't know. I can see people certainly not liking it. Especially if they choose Normal or Hard on their first playthrough and hate puzzles to begin with. Then it's just hard as hell. But to me it's fun to try and figure everything out and reach the top. Luckily I have good amounts of patience when it comes to these kinds of things.
Boss level spoiler
Oh and I passed 6-3 and got to the boss level and holy shit is it hard. Like. Wow hard. Just....saws that drive around on the blocks and cutting chunks of the level away and dropping things on me. Oh god. It's horrible. So frantic but still. I really love this game.
And cj if you do that and get the dialogue and what not could you forward it to me if it's typed out? Because I'd love that myself if you're able. If not it's cool but if so I'd love you forever.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentThe World on This SideRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
I'm requesting that any details of levels and bosses be spoilers.
So, apparently people are shitting all over the game because of how hard it is. Personally, that makes me very happy since I've been looking for a challenge ever since raping Demon's Souls for all its worth.
Does it seem like its a "good" difficult or just cheap?
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edited February 2011
I'm surprised people were expecting any less. This is Atlus.
So, apparently people are shitting all over the game because of how hard it is. Personally, that makes me very happy since I've been looking for a challenge ever since raping Demon's Souls for all its worth.
Does it seem like its a "good" difficult or just cheap?
Well, if you like solving 3D spatial relation puzzles under a very strict time limit while there are elements that simply kill you at random, and let's not forget a camera that will simply refuse to fucking focus on your character during some of the most pivotal moments.
The story is the light at the end of the tunnel. And honestly, it's pretty good... not the BEST by any stretch of the imagination. Talking to the patrons at Stray Sheep is the highlight of the game for me.
So, apparently people are shitting all over the game because of how hard it is. Personally, that makes me very happy since I've been looking for a challenge ever since raping Demon's Souls for all its worth.
Does it seem like its a "good" difficult or just cheap?
I'm honestly finding it to be what some refer to as a "good" difficult.
it's like how I felt about the Mega Man games of yore. They're hard as all fuck and yet you feel like you need to conquer the shit out of them so you go back and learn new tricks to get by where you were dying. That's how I feel. I have only yelled very few times at this game but it didn't stop me from playing. It just made me think of new tactics. Of which there are oh so very many.
Tip: Always talk to the two sheep sitting next to each other and say yes to listening to their hints. You will be glad for their advice.
So this game is most definitely hard. And by that I mean....when I played the demo and was watching the stream of the game, I was going through Normal in the Full Game and the stream was Easy. I could point out each and every difference at how much easier Easy is compared to Normal. Where on Normal it's like a whole different ball game. Also on Easy you get that Go Back a Square button which makes you pretty much invincible.
This game is obviously not Demon's Souls but in terms of difficulty it ranks up there. Like I said earlier. I have times where when I'm not playing the game I sit back and just think of new block patterns to make in my head to get past things. And it helps. But also like I said if you have no patience for some things I guarantee you won't find it to be the "good" difficult. If you think carefully and don't just pull and pull and pull and hope then you can make it past anything. It's just tough when there's a crazy bitch with a fork chasing you and the ground is dropping out and shit is raining on you and you want a higher score and....
Yeah. It's awesome to me. I really love this game.
Edit: Oh and CJ. You are so right. Which is why I also can't be mad. It's Atlus.
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"You're like a kitten! A kitten who doesn't speak Japanese." ~ Juliet Starling
So I got to the boss of Stage 7 and ho my god. Yes. I spelt that as ho. This stuff is insane and damn is it hard. I have a feeling I'll be at this one a while.
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I'm surprised people were expecting any less. This is Atlus.
I remember an interview where they said that the demo's difficulty was cranked up compared to the actual game, though.
The demo is easy as pie. After one run through I could destroy that. The full game is absolutely insane. And by that I mean don't choose easy and have fun having your brain smashed.
Note: I highly recommend choosing Normal. (I really do. Easy is no fun. It's like a cruise through just to see the small story bits.) But if you arn't good with puzzles then well.
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"You're like a kitten! A kitten who doesn't speak Japanese." ~ Juliet Starling
I'm surprised people were expecting any less. This is Atlus.
I remember an interview where they said that the demo's difficulty was cranked up compared to the actual game, though.
The demo is easy as pie. After one run through I could destroy that. The full game is absolutely insane. And by that I mean don't choose easy and have fun having your brain smashed.
Note: I highly recommend choosing Normal. (I really do. Easy is no fun. It's like a cruise through just to see the small story bits.) But if you arn't good with puzzles then well.
I didn't even die once in the demo.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentThe World on This SideRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
I died once from carelessness. And I'm not doing anything less than Normal.
I died once from carelessness. And I'm not doing anything less than Normal.
Good man. It's like how after a couple SMT games I just started choosing Hard if it was available right off the bat. I mean Normal is normal of course but this game is pretty ruthless. Of course. Well. We like SMT. We like Atlus. We must like Ruthless Bullshit that takes mad skillz to get through no?
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edited February 2011
Replace Ninja Gaiden with Atlus games in general and here you go:
I'm disappointed that Hashino backed down. He should revel in their tears.
The design decisions for the game were stupid. Here's what Hashino could have done to fix it:
1) Unlimited retries -- Why the fuck make us reload the game and redo the confessional? This is the most mind-boggling stupid design decision.
2) Instant Respawn -- Do we need the goddamn Love is Dead screen every time we die? No, we fucking don't. Just let the player repsawn like in Super Meat Boy.
3) Fixed camera -- Don't let the camera follow the boss characters!! And also, don't make it so the main character can "outrun" the camera either.
4) Difficulty toggle -- Let the players adjust the difficulty at pre-stage platform. If they start on Medium and dying 50 times, at least give the option for them to swtich to Easy difficulty.
...Well, I mean...I guess that really I'm in the opinion that as long as it doesn't directly influence my enjoyment(say such as beginners getting power boosts in multiplayer games) I can't say it really matters how people play games.
And Catherine looks like it'll be as much a cinematic game as it is a puzzle platformer or whatever it is, so whose to say how people want to enjoy the game is wrong or whatever?
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Oh and I'm at...level 3 of Stage 6. Shit is getting real.
EDIT: On Normal.
Yeah from what I know it is. Most areas have two levels + Boss Stage but this one has 3 levels + Boss stage and oh my god. I just tried again for another hour or more but I can't solve this thing....It's nagging at me.
Seriously whenever I'm just sitting down I sit there going through different patterns in my head to set up stairways to reach the tops of certain walls I create in my head. This game is eating me.
Oh and stage 7 I see above has 4 levels + Boss but...not there yet. And whatever stage 8 has I have no clue.
Oh boy, it's time for the Lightning Round!
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Fixed that for ya.
Serriously I should import this. Literaly one week after I got my copy of Demon's Souls the US version was announced. So logically this would make the US version of Catherine get fast tracked.
See what I mean? Shit is hard man. I don't find it hatefully aggravating luckily. I just find it wow what the hell hard. Still stuck on the same level. But I did just reach a checkpoint and there's a pillow right above i can always reach so it's time to figure this out.
Edit: and for people who don't mind kind of a gist of the story the first half is on Justin.tv under RedSunGamers profile. Thats how I got through the first half knowing what was going on. They said no new releases next week as far as Japanese games go so they may just do the next half of Catherine. So I mean. If you wanna wait and see then if they do it you can just use that to get through the scenes. It's not a perfect translation but the guy does it on the fly as the other guy is going through and it works perfectly well enough. I mean I'm definitely buying this in English if it comes out but It's nice to know what's up. So with any luck they'll do that next half.
I'm stopping for the night on 6-2. I'll probably soldier on through the game, but it's really not very good.
And I'll probably continue with my plans to stream it, because why not. Some help's better than none.
I'm generally good with adapting to challenges, so I'm sure I'll be fine. (Not watching the RedSun stream at all, I'm going in blind.)
I guess I'll have it on Monday or Tuesday, looks like.
I actually really like the story so far, and as far as the gameplay goes I'm also really liking that too. I don't know. I can see people certainly not liking it. Especially if they choose Normal or Hard on their first playthrough and hate puzzles to begin with. Then it's just hard as hell. But to me it's fun to try and figure everything out and reach the top. Luckily I have good amounts of patience when it comes to these kinds of things.
Boss level spoiler
And cj if you do that and get the dialogue and what not could you forward it to me if it's typed out? Because I'd love that myself if you're able. If not it's cool but if so I'd love you forever.
But with love.
Does it seem like its a "good" difficult or just cheap?
Well, if you like solving 3D spatial relation puzzles under a very strict time limit while there are elements that simply kill you at random, and let's not forget a camera that will simply refuse to fucking focus on your character during some of the most pivotal moments.
The story is the light at the end of the tunnel. And honestly, it's pretty good... not the BEST by any stretch of the imagination. Talking to the patrons at Stray Sheep is the highlight of the game for me.
I'm honestly finding it to be what some refer to as a "good" difficult.
it's like how I felt about the Mega Man games of yore. They're hard as all fuck and yet you feel like you need to conquer the shit out of them so you go back and learn new tricks to get by where you were dying. That's how I feel. I have only yelled very few times at this game but it didn't stop me from playing. It just made me think of new tactics. Of which there are oh so very many.
Tip: Always talk to the two sheep sitting next to each other and say yes to listening to their hints. You will be glad for their advice.
So this game is most definitely hard. And by that I mean....when I played the demo and was watching the stream of the game, I was going through Normal in the Full Game and the stream was Easy. I could point out each and every difference at how much easier Easy is compared to Normal. Where on Normal it's like a whole different ball game. Also on Easy you get that Go Back a Square button which makes you pretty much invincible.
This game is obviously not Demon's Souls but in terms of difficulty it ranks up there. Like I said earlier. I have times where when I'm not playing the game I sit back and just think of new block patterns to make in my head to get past things. And it helps. But also like I said if you have no patience for some things I guarantee you won't find it to be the "good" difficult. If you think carefully and don't just pull and pull and pull and hope then you can make it past anything. It's just tough when there's a crazy bitch with a fork chasing you and the ground is dropping out and shit is raining on you and you want a higher score and....
Yeah. It's awesome to me. I really love this game.
Edit: Oh and CJ. You are so right. Which is why I also can't be mad. It's Atlus.
I remember an interview where they said that the demo's difficulty was cranked up compared to the actual game, though.
The demo is easy as pie. After one run through I could destroy that. The full game is absolutely insane. And by that I mean don't choose easy and have fun having your brain smashed.
Note: I highly recommend choosing Normal. (I really do. Easy is no fun. It's like a cruise through just to see the small story bits.) But if you arn't good with puzzles then well.
I didn't even die once in the demo.
Good man. It's like how after a couple SMT games I just started choosing Hard if it was available right off the bat. I mean Normal is normal of course but this game is pretty ruthless. Of course. Well. We like SMT. We like Atlus. We must like Ruthless Bullshit that takes mad skillz to get through no?
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The one thing I'll say for certain is that I'm going to Easy difficulty after this.
EDIT: Finished. 6-4 was cake.
Replace Ryu with Demifiend casting Gaea Rage.
I'm disappointed that Hashino backed down. He should revel in their tears.
The design decisions for the game were stupid. Here's what Hashino could have done to fix it:
1) Unlimited retries -- Why the fuck make us reload the game and redo the confessional? This is the most mind-boggling stupid design decision.
2) Instant Respawn -- Do we need the goddamn Love is Dead screen every time we die? No, we fucking don't. Just let the player repsawn like in Super Meat Boy.
3) Fixed camera -- Don't let the camera follow the boss characters!! And also, don't make it so the main character can "outrun" the camera either.
4) Difficulty toggle -- Let the players adjust the difficulty at pre-stage platform. If they start on Medium and dying 50 times, at least give the option for them to swtich to Easy difficulty.
The difficulty itself is fine.
I mean all it is is an "advice" mode for the easy difficulty.
If you don't like it...don't play on easy.
Can't say I'm seeing the problem here...
Granted, I haven't played it, but just my impression. It has a rewind feature already, how hard could it be?
And Catherine looks like it'll be as much a cinematic game as it is a puzzle platformer or whatever it is, so whose to say how people want to enjoy the game is wrong or whatever?
Play through Night 6 on Normal, then you can talk about how everybody is being a big baby.
No rewind feature on Normal difficulty either.