If you were typing something into the item store you'd already be taking way more time than you should
Fastest way to buy is just to memorize all the items and which components go into what, then click on a recommended item with one of the components you need, click the component, and click the item you want on top
Of course sometimes you have to dig in the sluggish crappy category menu and that sucks
@Riot please let us set our own recommended items for champions thanks.
I'd just love the ability to have a tab for user set favorites. I've noticed a lot of high elo streams, they'll start going through the build menu while waiting to teleport back so it's literally a double click or two, and you're back on your way.
Go google a program called Yaric.
I use it and love it. Changes the recommended items to whatever you want
The reason Merc Treads are so good is they are built by ideal laning items. Your first trip back, about half the time one of the very best purchases is the 400 cloak, and on your second trip back, you generally want boots 2.
usually my first trip back i'm sitting at about 2k gold though.
The reason Merc Treads are so good is they are built by ideal laning items. Your first trip back, about half the time one of the very best purchases is the 400 cloak, and on your second trip back, you generally want boots 2.
usually my first trip back i'm sitting at about 2k gold though.
2K gold is a lot. At that point, you might be better off leaving and buying beforehand, even if you don't need to.
Though, if you have 2K gold before having to leave, you might as well grab whatever boots you want, as your opponents are probably terribad (at least relative to your skill level, if not in an absolute sense) beyond belief if they cannot even force you to heal / leave to help a fight before then.
With Shen / Karma, I strongly consider leaving and teleporting back at 1185 gold, for boots 1 + philo + 1 hp pot.
New ryze is pretty fun, but I do tend to get ksed a lot because he doesn't have a lot of burst, which I guess is fine because he doesn't need that many items.
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Are you doing those yourself or is this something Riot is implementing?
You have to manually go in and change the images, which requires downloading the source material. There is a topic which has a compilation of them in the LoL general forum.
I just do some quick copy paste work so you can easily compare the two.
Are you doing those yourself or is this something Riot is implementing?
You have to manually go in and change the images, which requires downloading the source material. There is a topic which has a compilation of them in the LoL general forum.
I just do some quick copy paste work so you can easily compare the two.
The reason Merc Treads are so good is they are built by ideal laning items. Your first trip back, about half the time one of the very best purchases is the 400 cloak, and on your second trip back, you generally want boots 2.
usually my first trip back i'm sitting at about 2k gold though.
2K gold is a lot. At that point, you might be better off leaving and buying beforehand, even if you don't need to.
Though, if you have 2K gold before having to leave, you might as well grab whatever boots you want, as your opponents are probably terribad (at least relative to your skill level, if not in an absolute sense) beyond belief if they cannot even force you to heal / leave to help a fight before then.
With Shen / Karma, I strongly consider leaving and teleporting back at 1185 gold, for boots 1 + philo + 1 hp pot.
Problem with leaving early in solo lanes is that often your tower gets pushed with the now super resistant minions. Sustaining as long as you can is usually better. If i'm basing super early i'm probably going to get a dorans item.
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let me tell you a story 'bout laning trundle. fiddy creeps. banshee's veil, merc treads, frozen heart, frozen mallet. trundle bite off nipples. RAIN DOWN DEVASTATING BLOWS AND EARTHDICKS.
let me tell you a story 'bout laning trundle. fiddy creeps. banshee's veil, merc treads, frozen heart, frozen mallet. trundle bite off nipples. RAIN DOWN DEVASTATING BLOWS AND EARTHDICKS.
So what you're getting at is Trundle loves the cock.
let me tell you a story 'bout laning trundle. fiddy creeps. banshee's veil, merc treads, frozen heart, frozen mallet. trundle bite off nipples. RAIN DOWN DEVASTATING BLOWS AND EARTHDICKS.
So what you're getting at is Trundle loves the cock.
TRUNDLE LOVE GOBBLING DICKS
edit: im also getting away with 5 hp because of merc treads too so stuff that in your corncob pipe, irish jim
The reason Merc Treads are so good is they are built by ideal laning items. Your first trip back, about half the time one of the very best purchases is the 400 cloak, and on your second trip back, you generally want boots 2.
usually my first trip back i'm sitting at about 2k gold though.
The thing isn't that if you can get a key item before you opponent, sometimes it's worth going back before you have to, just so that you can gain the advantage over them by virtue of the item.
For example, you're laning against some AP asshole and while you can last hit just fine you are unable to harass and prevent their last hitting. You could wait and just both rice. OR you could back grab a null magic mantle, some pots, and a ward and harass the shit out of that guy so he can't farm.
In one scenario there's no competitive advantage (unless one of you benefits from ricing more than the other), and in the second you win your lane.
The reason Merc Treads are so good is they are built by ideal laning items. Your first trip back, about half the time one of the very best purchases is the 400 cloak, and on your second trip back, you generally want boots 2.
usually my first trip back i'm sitting at about 2k gold though.
2K gold is a lot. At that point, you might be better off leaving and buying beforehand, even if you don't need to.
Though, if you have 2K gold before having to leave, you might as well grab whatever boots you want, as your opponents are probably terribad (at least relative to your skill level, if not in an absolute sense) beyond belief if they cannot even force you to heal / leave to help a fight before then.
With Shen / Karma, I strongly consider leaving and teleporting back at 1185 gold, for boots 1 + philo + 1 hp pot.
Problem with leaving early in solo lanes is that often your tower gets pushed with the now super resistant minions. Sustaining as long as you can is usually better. If i'm basing super early i'm probably going to get a dorans item.
Well, timing is key. Also, I'm running teleport often these days in lanes.
I'm still surprised by 2K before a return though. I've seen a couple good AD carries do it, but only on unusually successful games.
I think the most gold I've had before basing even once is 4k
It was as nidalee, so that hardly counts, but still
Well, maybe I'm missing the point. Are we talking about average case or best case here? I've definitely had >2K before, but I plan to back at certain points relative to my gold earning based on very large sample sizes (with Vlad 1200-1500 is common if the enemy team has a jungle, for example).
is there ever a time when building components then the main item isn't a good option? like the price doesn't drop as much as the full price of the component or is it a straight subtraction of the component price from the full item price?
is there ever a time when building components then the main item isn't a good option? like the price doesn't drop as much as the full price of the component or is it a straight subtraction of the component price from the full item price?
No item is simply the sum of its components. Once you get every piece, the item has an additional cost to convert into the greater item. That cost can vary from a couple hundred gold to over 1k.
Edit: I think the answer to your actual question is yes. If you click a big item in the store, then buy a component of it, the new price is full price minus each component you have in you inventory. And it shows that when you click again.
is there ever a time when building components then the main item isn't a good option? like the price doesn't drop as much as the full price of the component or is it a straight subtraction of the component price from the full item price?
No item is simply the sum of its components. Once you get every piece, the item has an additional cost to convert into the greater item. That cost can vary from a couple hundred gold to over 1k.
That I knew. I was wondering if the total cost for just buying the item was actually cheaper than buying each part then paying for the conversion? Or if both methods have the same total cost
is there ever a time when building components then the main item isn't a good option? like the price doesn't drop as much as the full price of the component or is it a straight subtraction of the component price from the full item price?
No item is simply the sum of its components. Once you get every piece, the item has an additional cost to convert into the greater item. That cost can vary from a couple hundred gold to over 1k.
That I knew. I was wondering if the total cost for just buying the item was actually cheaper than buying each part then paying for the conversion? Or if both methods have the same total cost
Same total. One thing LoL got right is the store sorting and doing easy math for your big items.
It adds up to the same cost regardless of how you buy them
Yes, and to add to this, it can be very beneficial not to complete an item. I've held onto 1/3 of an item for as much as 30 minutes without finishing it, and it was a smart play (Anti-Magic Cloak, which is part of Force of Nature, for example). Generally if you can buy a piece you want to do so if you're at the shop already. Past that advice, it gets considerably more complicated.
Ok that's good. Some times it doesn't seem like it but that's probably just because my brain wasn't in subtract 4 digit numbers in a split second before you run back to stop your towers from being destroyed mode.
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Go google a program called Yaric.
I use it and love it. Changes the recommended items to whatever you want
Check out explorer Ezreal.
I had 330 armor before my shield and a Thornmail.
Their team ignored buying MR.
They had no idea how I was bursting them down.
You're bad and should feel bad.
You, you're weird.
I can see it for certain play styles / team comps.
usually my first trip back i'm sitting at about 2k gold though.
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2K gold is a lot. At that point, you might be better off leaving and buying beforehand, even if you don't need to.
Though, if you have 2K gold before having to leave, you might as well grab whatever boots you want, as your opponents are probably terribad (at least relative to your skill level, if not in an absolute sense) beyond belief if they cannot even force you to heal / leave to help a fight before then.
With Shen / Karma, I strongly consider leaving and teleporting back at 1185 gold, for boots 1 + philo + 1 hp pot.
Are you doing those yourself or is this something Riot is implementing?
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You have to manually go in and change the images, which requires downloading the source material. There is a topic which has a compilation of them in the LoL general forum.
I just do some quick copy paste work so you can easily compare the two.
Edti: Left side is Ch, right side is US.
Also, are you on later? I want to learn EZ.
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Problem with leaving early in solo lanes is that often your tower gets pushed with the now super resistant minions. Sustaining as long as you can is usually better. If i'm basing super early i'm probably going to get a dorans item.
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So what you're getting at is Trundle loves the cock.
edit: im also getting away with 5 hp because of merc treads too so stuff that in your corncob pipe, irish jim
The thing isn't that if you can get a key item before you opponent, sometimes it's worth going back before you have to, just so that you can gain the advantage over them by virtue of the item.
For example, you're laning against some AP asshole and while you can last hit just fine you are unable to harass and prevent their last hitting. You could wait and just both rice. OR you could back grab a null magic mantle, some pots, and a ward and harass the shit out of that guy so he can't farm.
In one scenario there's no competitive advantage (unless one of you benefits from ricing more than the other), and in the second you win your lane.
Well, timing is key. Also, I'm running teleport often these days in lanes.
I'm still surprised by 2K before a return though. I've seen a couple good AD carries do it, but only on unusually successful games.
It was as nidalee, so that hardly counts, but still
Well, maybe I'm missing the point. Are we talking about average case or best case here? I've definitely had >2K before, but I plan to back at certain points relative to my gold earning based on very large sample sizes (with Vlad 1200-1500 is common if the enemy team has a jungle, for example).
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if I'm someone without a self heal I will base earlier on in order to buy more potions/wards/good items as soon as I feel like I'm at risk of dying
with nidalee I figure I can take their turret and be gankproof with just a doran's ring
laning trundle bros
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No item is simply the sum of its components. Once you get every piece, the item has an additional cost to convert into the greater item. That cost can vary from a couple hundred gold to over 1k.
Edit: I think the answer to your actual question is yes. If you click a big item in the store, then buy a component of it, the new price is full price minus each component you have in you inventory. And it shows that when you click again.
That I knew. I was wondering if the total cost for just buying the item was actually cheaper than buying each part then paying for the conversion? Or if both methods have the same total cost
Same total. One thing LoL got right is the store sorting and doing easy math for your big items.
Yes, and to add to this, it can be very beneficial not to complete an item. I've held onto 1/3 of an item for as much as 30 minutes without finishing it, and it was a smart play (Anti-Magic Cloak, which is part of Force of Nature, for example). Generally if you can buy a piece you want to do so if you're at the shop already. Past that advice, it gets considerably more complicated.
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