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Super Nervous! Here is my comic, and i'd love to get input and advice!

thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
edited March 2011 in Artist's Corner
So i've been "lurking" in the AC thread for about two years now, never actually posting anything, but having a great time looking at the "daily sketches", or up and coming webcomics, seeing some really great work and viewing some very helpful conversations and tips. So after lurking and seeing all of you post your work for the community to see, I realized it is my turn to share. I am very nervous about posting my work here, but I know I can't get better if i'm never getting "real" feedback. As great as it is for friends to say, "looks great!", I don't get the feedback I want, like "welll...this needs a lot of work", but I can see it, and I change it, but I figured I'd get some input from the community.

I love art and comics, and am a huge PA fan, and you will see that in my work. I am slowly trying to be less apparent with my influences, and have my work draw from (pun intended) my favorite artists, but be it's own thing, and look like it's own thing, but carry the spirit and fun of the comics I love. Mike has been a huge influence on me, as well as Pixar character design, the work of Kate Beaton, Em Carroll, Bill Watterson, and of course Bill Amend, and way more. So what I would like from the community is: Feedback, advice, and yeah! Though I am not an art student, I do want to become way better, and know what that requires. Figure drawing, life drawing, and sketching constantly. And I have been doing those things, but with Grad school in a totally unrelated field it gets hard to do more than doodles. So I wanted to post here, and see what you all have to say. Thanks a lot for taking a look at this thread! I hope this isn't considered "Site Whoring". I'm not going to link to my blog where all of my work is hosted, but I will start by posting work from the beginning, all the way up until now. I have been doing my comic, "The matching socks" for almost a year now, just once a week, and not every week. I hope you enjoy my work, and i'll also post some sketches and random things. Thank you! I look forward to nervously reading your comments.
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So there they are, just a few doodles, and then my comics that I made throughout this year. They are super rough, and are coming along slowly, I just wanted to get thoughts from all of you. Thank you in advance!

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    tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Hey there! I would suggest rearranging your spoiler tags so that the IMG bits are inside of the SPOILER bits. It should go:
    yourimage.jpg

    so that the spoiler text wraps around the image encoding.

    Right now your links are broken because they're interrupted by the
    s and therefore uh... considerably harder to read. ;)

    I looked up the first few by copy-paste but I will cop to lacking the motivation to check out the rest of them. You have an interesting style of drawing but I lack a frame of reference for what you're trying to accomplish. (I see a list of influences and justifications in the OP, but not a lot of context, like "The Matching Socks is about ___.")

    Just my (oh god WHY did I have that French press coffee at 10pm) thoughts. I may have better comments when I am not alternately manic and desperately needing sleep, haha.

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    squidbunnysquidbunny Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Welcome to the AC. Fix your image tags like tapeslinger said -- I, too, manually looked at a couple and they're promising.

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    earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Yup I'd like to, but I can't see no comics.

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Whoops! Thank you, I will go back and fix that right now, I wan't sure how the "Spoiler tag" worked, I just knew it was a much better idea to use the spoiler tag so as not to overload everyones computer when opening the thread.

    haha yeah, you can actually see me trying to figure out what the comic is about as they go, I honestly was just creating content each week, it started off as a comic about a Detroit commentator passing, then it became political, then I started having just normal conversation comics, and now I've moved closer to that, with the Gabe and Tyco, Calvin and Hobees, Foxtrot family, style of interactions and jokes between a cast of characters. It's for sure a work in progress.

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Okay I think they should work now, sorry about that. And thanks for welcoming me to the AC thread!

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    IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited March 2011
    This has a more slice of life feel than PA, but the 3-4 panel format makes me think theres going to punchline, and there never really seems to be. In some comics you are sort explaining the joke (like the march madness one, not exactly explaining it but the last panel doesn't make it land, either) But I could see these little touches in a more consistent story building up over time.

    Somethings, you just want into more showing and not telling. Like the snow shoveling comic. You spent all your time showing that he is shoveling a walk, but whats important is that hes the only one shoveling the walk. You then sorta have to explain the whole story in the last panel, because we other wise didn't get any context. Maybe, what you want to show is him walking out with all his gear on and his buddy sleeping on the couch, show the main guy diligently shoveling the walk, maybe brushing the last bit of snow on his car, and then pull out and show the other car completely covered.

    As you build up your artistic skills, you'll have more to work with. Expressions will help you tell the story without words.

    I think that the comic has potential, it feels like there is content but packaging just needs some help. While you get away from PAs style, dont forget to experiment with your format too.

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    NibCromNibCrom Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Make these smaller. 1600 pixels wide is overkill. 700 – 800 is much more reasonable.

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    DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Could you at least try to hide who you're ripping off from a little bit better?

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Who am I ripping off of? Because I said I am influenced by PA, and I have two guys talking to each other? But thank you for that advice, really helped me out. Glad I posted.

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    Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    Snark is not usually well met by more snark. Just a heads up.

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I know, i'm sorry. I'm stressing out today about school, so I was a bit too sensitive about the post. I understand what was meant, and it hurts to be called a rip off.

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    IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited March 2011
    Just ignore it and respond to people who typed alot and are trying to help you out :p

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    But I guess that is advice haha so i'll take it!

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Thank you for typing so much, it has had me thinking all day. Thank you for taking the time to look at some of them, and to give me that advice. Sorry I have not taken the time to get back to you, the wonders of HW.

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    NibCrom wrote: »
    Make these smaller. 1600 pixels wide is overkill. 700 – 800 is much more reasonable.

    Sorry about the size, when I get a chance I will shrink them down. Didn't realize how big they were.

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    DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Sorry about the snarky comment, it wasn't necessary.

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    earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I've only clicked a few of them, and they're not bad. Its just too much damn work to unspoiler each one individually and then scroll a half a page over and over again.

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    slydonslydon Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Great start! There's nothing wrong with the size of these.

    I uh, just need a bigger monitor :D

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Thank you SquidBunny! The work on your site is great!

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Iruka wrote: »
    This has a more slice of life feel than PA, but the 3-4 panel format makes me think theres going to punchline, and there never really seems to be. In some comics you are sort explaining the joke (like the march madness one, not exactly explaining it but the last panel doesn't make it land, either) But I could see these little touches in a more consistent story building up over time.

    Somethings, you just want into more showing and not telling. Like the snow shoveling comic. You spent all your time showing that he is shoveling a walk, but whats important is that hes the only one shoveling the walk. You then sorta have to explain the whole story in the last panel, because we other wise didn't get any context. Maybe, what you want to show is him walking out with all his gear on and his buddy sleeping on the couch, show the main guy diligently shoveling the walk, maybe brushing the last bit of snow on his car, and then pull out and show the other car completely covered.

    As you build up your artistic skills, you'll have more to work with. Expressions will help you tell the story without words.

    I think that the comic has potential, it feels like there is content but packaging just needs some help. While you get away from PAs style, dont forget to experiment with your format too.


    Thank you for the response. I don't think I had ever really realized that I was doing more showing than telling, but now I see what you mean. For the snow comic, I was debating whether or not to have it show the roommate sleeping, and then the other walking past all bundled up like you had suggested, I think I decided to just show him shoveling the snow covered driveway, with the two cars clearly covered, and then like you said, explain it at the end, but I agree with that being way too much "telling", and it would have been funnier I think if the other character had been involved in some way. But as you pointed out, my art skills are not quite there yet, so I guess I fall back on more simple layouts when i'm not comfortable creating new scenes, which I am working on.

    As far as the jokes, haha yeah I tend to over explain, and they aren't the funniest comics, but more reflection, but I do want them to be fun, and will work on utilizing the current format, but also like you said, sort of change it up. Thanks for your advice, and your blog is great by the way.

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    slydon wrote: »
    Great start! There's nothing wrong with the size of these.

    I uh, just need a bigger monitor :D

    haha yeah they are a bit wide, it's my ploy to get everyone to go out and buy cinema screens.

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I've only clicked a few of them, and they're not bad. Its just too much damn work to unspoiler each one individually and then scroll a half a page over and over again.

    I didn't realize just how large the files were, next time when I post I will make sure to submit the right size, haha it is a bit annoying to open up each one and then scroll.

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    thematchingsocksthematchingsocks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    DeeLock wrote: »
    Sorry about the snarky comment, it wasn't necessary.

    Thanks DeeLock, and I am sorry for being snarky back, doesn't really help.

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