a) Bumblebee throwing out an s-bomb for no real reason made your parents wonder what the hell you were watching to begin with.
b) Stan Bush and The Touch
c) a kid sees Optimus die, it really stays with them.
And it was Spike who threw out the s-bomb (and Ultra-Magnus dropped a dammit before he got smoked on the Junk planet).
1986 was a fucked up year for animated movies - I remember crying when Optimus died, and then I cried for most of American Tail. The Transformers animated movie is the first movie I remember watching where characters I loved were just getting killed left and right.
I just hope that they keep the racist twin-bots to a minimum, not that I found them to uncomfortably racist, I just found them to be uncomfortably awkward to watch.
And what exactly do you dig about the Transformers movies TLB, I'm not criticizing your taste but I am curious as to what you see in it?
you would not be the first person to criticize my taste
I do not take offense to it because I got the most eclectic taste of anyone you will ever meet and doggies who know me can attest
as for the transformers movies?
I love them because they are astoundingly dumb.
Almost so that they reach the brink of genius in how dumb they are.
They take the basic conceit of robots that turn into cars and planes and also fight each other, and instead of leaving that dumb kernel of an idea alone, they add like a billion more layers of even stupider things to it. It is comedy gold. And the bad comedy is even funnier because the unintentional stuff is even funnier than that, if it makes sense.
They are masterpieces of ineptitude.
Ed Wood couldn't do them better.
And in between the rampant idiocy, there are giant robots fighting each other.
There is nothing not to love for me in these movies.
They are just so fun.
But impossible to watch twice.
I ashamed to admit I feel the same way. I really hope a better writer/director takes this series up after the 3rd. So much potential. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to make an action movie with a decent plot..
AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
edited May 2011
fun fact, Duke was supposed to die in the GI Joe movie first, and then Hasbro thought it was a great idea to kill Optimus Prime on Christmas
so, after reports of sobbing children and complaining parents, they removed Duke's death from the GI Joe movie, even though it was targeted towards and older audience
The Transformers animated movie is the first movie I remember watching where characters I loved were just getting killed left and right.
Seeing Wheeljacks corpse being dragged aside in the battle for Autobot City stayed with me for years. And the death of Optimus, obviously.
But I am so close to giving up on the movies. I mean yes, I will fork out cash to go see it, but if the racist twins say more than two words in a row another small piece of soul will whither and die.
Ebert just doesn't get this stuff, his inability to recognize comics and videogames as a legitimate source of art all but prove this. Since he has no method of comprehending these things I simply just don't listen to him when he talks about them.
Witch_Hunter_84 on
If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten in your presence.
But even if I did, I would have to say that his Thor review was stupid
The big robot didn't go to New Mexico to kill Thor because it does in the comics, you dumbass. It went there because Loki sent it to kill Thor and Thor was in New Mexico.
Ellis should have used Cobra-La as part of GIJOE:Resolute.
have you read any of the Devil's Due Publishing GI Joe/Transformers books? They are fantastic and the fourth book uses Cobra-La AND the Pretenders.
I haven't seen those books - I'll have to take a look next time I'm at the shop.
And Ebert's THOR review....eh, I don't know. The only movie critic I really trust anymore is the Motion/Captured guy over at Hitfix (he used to be at aintitcool).
jkylefulton on
0
Options
AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
it was collected in an omnibus with the other three volumes, but that appears to be the only option besides singles
Antimatter on
0
Options
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited May 2011
I'll be honest, if I want a good opinion about comic movies I would come here first, since everyone here has a better starting point for understanding the films.
TexiKen on
0
Options
AngryThe glory I had witnessedwas just a sleight of handRegistered Userregular
edited May 2011
the problem is that thor wasn't complicated or hard to follow at all. if you were never to have heard of roger ebert before and his thor review was the first review he'd ever put out you would swear he's a fucking idiot for not being able to follow the clearly laid out plotlines.
for the most part i like ebert reviews but he does come out with some incredibly dense opinions and is never willing to accept the fact that he might have been wrong.
I didn't find anything wrong with his Thor review or response to it. Other than the inaccuracies (which are not really a big deal/explained in the response) most of what he has to say are legitimate flaws that don't place it in the top tier of super hero movies. I don't think it even aspires to that.
The difference is that those flaws don't carry as much weight in my mind, so I enjoyed the film.
I saw Thor with my girlfriend and really loved the movie. I have only read small pieces of the comics so I was open on what to expect. I don't think anything of it was hard to follow or even remotely flawed in pacing or buildup. My girlfriend really enjoyed it too, and even said that the actors in it would be hard to assemble if they felt the material was that bad. It was tasteful, to say the least but gave plenty of nods to comic fans with the easter eggs here and there. All in all, anyone who reads the GV forums would enjoy it, and if you don't I'd be truly surprised.
I saw it yesterday and felt let down by it. It wasn't a terrible film by any stretch but I'd certainly place it near the bottom of the list for Marvel flicks.
Something I thought they did quite well was show how powerful Thor is. In terms of film-making qualities though it was severely lacking. None of the characters were very interesting and everything felt quite shallow. Loki's motivations in the film were quite unclear as well.
SatanIsMyMotor on
0
Options
Linespider5ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGERRegistered Userregular
edited May 2011
Thor is starting to sound like it gets the same sorts of reactions from people that Tron Legacy did.
Which probably means it's gonna be all right by me.
I wonder how much money Transformers would make if it was done without any human characters at all. I assume that the franchise needs them to attract a wider audience and justify the CG and special effects expenses.
dreamworks has the license to it, they should just make a completely cgi film with simpler animation models and characters
I'd go see that.
They could do one between Bay's last film and whoever gets to do the next live-action blockbuster one. It'd be more similar to the original 86 film, but in CG. That'd be pretty sweet.
HadjiQuest on
0
Options
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Wow... the Thor: Tales of Asgard movie was really damn good. One of the highest quality marvel animations I've ever seen, and perhaps the best of Marvel's animated films. I would say it's on par with the DC animated movies, not in terms of animation (that was merely ok), but story wise it was surprisingly awesome.
And I'm not saying this because I'm a huge Thor fan (my inner Thor fan is actually a little peeved at some of the movie's odd departures from the comics).
I was expecting some lame Next Avengers like movie, but Tales of Asgard was surprisingly deep and surprisingly dark. Darker then even the darkest episode of Justice League... I certainly didn't expect this since they went with the teen Thor approach.
If this is a sign of Marvel animated movies to come, DC better make room for a for another top dog.
Wishpig on
WARNING: Picture below may cause spontaneous growth of facial hair and/or body hair.
Glad to hear it's good. I was not going to get it but decided to tack it onto my Emerald Knights order for free shipping awhile ago. I've never had as big a problem with the Marvel efforts as some people though they always seem to fall short of DC's stuff (except for Apocalypse cause that was terrible).
Dritz on
There I was, 3DS: 2621-2671-9899 (Ekera), Wii U: LostCrescendo
Wow... the Thor: Tales of Asgard movie was really damn good. One of the highest quality marvel animations I've ever seen, and perhaps the best of Marvel's animated films. I would say it's on par with the DC animated movies, not in terms of animation (that was merely ok), but story wise it was surprisingly awesome.
And I'm not saying this because I'm a huge Thor fan (my inner Thor fan is actually a little peeved at some of the movie's odd departures from the comics).
I was expecting some lame Next Avengers like movie, but Tales of Asgard was surprisingly deep and surprisingly dark. Darker then even the darkest episode of Justice League... I certainly didn't expect this since they went with the teen Thor approach.
If this is a sign of Marvel animated movies to come, DC better make room for a for another top dog.
It is the final Marvel DTV video arranged to be produced, this far.
It's 8/8 contracted through Lionsgate animation. So, the bad news is that it's the last one. The potential good news is that if they've been successful enough to warrant more, or if they need them to compete with DC's offerings, any future ones would be done directly through Disney, so the animation would probably be much, much better than it has been. And all the writers and stuff are Marvel Entertainment guys, so they would come along for the ride.
It blows my mind how Kyle/Yost/Johnson have done the fantastic Wolverine and the X-Men, EMH, and the later seasons of X-Men Evolution, but have also done all of the Marvel DTVs, which have mostly been terrible. Another thing to note is that the directors on all the DTVs are work-for-hire, and many of the people behind the later Marvel DTVs are the same storyboard artists and directors that do all of the DC films.
So it's really crazy how shitty some of the Marvel DTVs have been when you consider the talent behind them. Although, I really enjoyed the two featuring Hulk. And Next Avengers wasn't terrible.
Yeah, the biggest problem is that it was totally unremarkable. Also, I wish we had gotten to see more of Strange in action. The focus was almost soley on his training, and the confrontation at the end was really rushed and anti-climatic.
The second Ultimate Avengers and Invincible Iron Man were totally awful, though. The rest suffered from mediocre stories, poor pacing, and terribly stale animation. The only one that I thought of as essential viewing was Planet Hulk, which was actually pretty kick-ass.
Posts
It was Witwicky, but Bumblebee was right there so partial credit?
"Dare" is a better song than "The Touch".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAESo2uv-po&feature=related
And it was Spike who threw out the s-bomb (and Ultra-Magnus dropped a dammit before he got smoked on the Junk planet).
1986 was a fucked up year for animated movies - I remember crying when Optimus died, and then I cried for most of American Tail. The Transformers animated movie is the first movie I remember watching where characters I loved were just getting killed left and right.
I ashamed to admit I feel the same way. I really hope a better writer/director takes this series up after the 3rd. So much potential. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to make an action movie with a decent plot..
TWITTER TWATS
so, after reports of sobbing children and complaining parents, they removed Duke's death from the GI Joe movie, even though it was targeted towards and older audience
Seeing Wheeljacks corpse being dragged aside in the battle for Autobot City stayed with me for years. And the death of Optimus, obviously.
But I am so close to giving up on the movies. I mean yes, I will fork out cash to go see it, but if the racist twins say more than two words in a row another small piece of soul will whither and die.
TWITTER TWATS
Ohgod, the suppressed trauma has been brought back in full force.
have you read any of the Devil's Due Publishing GI Joe/Transformers books? They are fantastic and the fourth book uses Cobra-La AND the Pretenders.
Ebert just doesn't get this stuff, his inability to recognize comics and videogames as a legitimate source of art all but prove this. Since he has no method of comprehending these things I simply just don't listen to him when he talks about them.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
But even if I did, I would have to say that his Thor review was stupid
The big robot didn't go to New Mexico to kill Thor because it does in the comics, you dumbass. It went there because Loki sent it to kill Thor and Thor was in New Mexico.
I haven't seen those books - I'll have to take a look next time I'm at the shop.
And Ebert's THOR review....eh, I don't know. The only movie critic I really trust anymore is the Motion/Captured guy over at Hitfix (he used to be at aintitcool).
http://www.amazon.com/G-I-Joe-Vs-Transformers-v/dp/1932796096
http://www.amazon.com/G-I-Joe-Transformers-Graphic-Novels/dp/1932796320/ref=pd_sim_b_2
http://www.amazon.com/G-I-Joe-Vs-Transformers-Graphic/dp/1932796649/ref=pd_sim_b_1
and it turns out the fourth one, Black Horizon, was published as two double-sized issues
it was collected in an omnibus with the other three volumes, but that appears to be the only option besides singles
for the most part i like ebert reviews but he does come out with some incredibly dense opinions and is never willing to accept the fact that he might have been wrong.
unless they don't like Death Wish 3
he still hated it though
Wii U NNID: MegaSpooky
The difference is that those flaws don't carry as much weight in my mind, so I enjoyed the film.
He mentions several times that details such as Asgard being another world are "explained in the comics"
yet these were explicitly stated in the film
so he backpedals by saying any details he missed were due to the film being so boring he can't remember anything
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Something I thought they did quite well was show how powerful Thor is. In terms of film-making qualities though it was severely lacking. None of the characters were very interesting and everything felt quite shallow. Loki's motivations in the film were quite unclear as well.
Which probably means it's gonna be all right by me.
Really? I absolutely loved his character (or, at any rate, his portrayal of the character) in both movies. He's the highlight of those movies for me!
Two new interviews from Ryan Reynolds and Mark Strong
http://www.myspace.com/everything/article/2011/05/14/green-lantern-set-visit-mark-strong-interview
http://www.myspace.com/everything/article/2011/05/14/green-lantern-set-visit-ryan-reynolds-interview?referring_topic=1400038357
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
I'd go see that.
They could do one between Bay's last film and whoever gets to do the next live-action blockbuster one. It'd be more similar to the original 86 film, but in CG. That'd be pretty sweet.
I didn't even realize he had something planned a la Family Guy for the series.
http://collider.com/green-lantern-set-visit/91189/
And I'm not saying this because I'm a huge Thor fan (my inner Thor fan is actually a little peeved at some of the movie's odd departures from the comics).
I was expecting some lame Next Avengers like movie, but Tales of Asgard was surprisingly deep and surprisingly dark. Darker then even the darkest episode of Justice League... I certainly didn't expect this since they went with the teen Thor approach.
If this is a sign of Marvel animated movies to come, DC better make room for a for another top dog.
Image by Sharpwriter on deviantart.com
It is the final Marvel DTV video arranged to be produced, this far.
It's 8/8 contracted through Lionsgate animation. So, the bad news is that it's the last one. The potential good news is that if they've been successful enough to warrant more, or if they need them to compete with DC's offerings, any future ones would be done directly through Disney, so the animation would probably be much, much better than it has been. And all the writers and stuff are Marvel Entertainment guys, so they would come along for the ride.
It blows my mind how Kyle/Yost/Johnson have done the fantastic Wolverine and the X-Men, EMH, and the later seasons of X-Men Evolution, but have also done all of the Marvel DTVs, which have mostly been terrible. Another thing to note is that the directors on all the DTVs are work-for-hire, and many of the people behind the later Marvel DTVs are the same storyboard artists and directors that do all of the DC films.
So it's really crazy how shitty some of the Marvel DTVs have been when you consider the talent behind them. Although, I really enjoyed the two featuring Hulk. And Next Avengers wasn't terrible.
Wasn't fantastic, but wasn't bad
Yeah, the biggest problem is that it was totally unremarkable. Also, I wish we had gotten to see more of Strange in action. The focus was almost soley on his training, and the confrontation at the end was really rushed and anti-climatic.
The second Ultimate Avengers and Invincible Iron Man were totally awful, though. The rest suffered from mediocre stories, poor pacing, and terribly stale animation. The only one that I thought of as essential viewing was Planet Hulk, which was actually pretty kick-ass.