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The Pre-PAX Hookah Meetup

pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
edited August 2011 in PAX Archive
What? Pre-Pax Hookah Meetup!
When? Thursday, August 25th at 8 PM-2AM (people will probably arrive at 8 and then come and go throughout the night)
Where? The Cobra Lounge Seattle, 1122 E Madison St #102
Why? Cause we want to smoke some shisha and chill playing the best games with the best people in the world; PAXers! Sorry Stoners, no weed.

More info: This is a 18+ event, and a mandatory $5 lifetime membership fee to the Cobra Lounge is required, unless you are already a prior member of any of the Cobra Lounges in Washington (Tacoma, Seattle, or Bellingham). This is also a BYOGame event, Munchkin, Super Munchkin, Zombie Dice, Farkle, and maybe a few others will be on hand, but more are encouraged! We hope to get enough people to rent out the whole place, but if not, we will just mob in. Either way this will go down! Cost for renting will be posted later, but if we mob in, expect about $30 to last you the night, plus any drinks or food you might want. Bowls are 1/2 off after the first bowl, and we may be able to work out an "All-you-can-smoke" deal with the owners. And please, follow Wheatons Law: Don't Be A Dick! The owners are friends of edg2000's, so if this goes off good, we can turn it to a yearly event!

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  • MLORDMLORD Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I for one have a very portable hookah with multiple flavors I could bring if something was organized in advance :) Details?

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I just recently got into hookahs and would be totally down for this. PSPs and hookahs for everyone!

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  • BleisleBleisle Registered User new member
    edited May 2011
    Thank you America!

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  • tardcoretardcore Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I've never smoked a Hookah. I've used a bong and pipe before though. Is it similar?

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  • SingolloSingollo Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I thought this might deserve a thread. We are of course talking about tobacco here and only tobacco (sorry stoners :/ ). I think during Prime 09 they did a hookah get together or something akin to that. Either I would love to see a hookah bar take over or maybe a possible public smoke out at a park where people bring their own hookahs, cigars, corn cob pipes, or what have you. Oh and I am not a Washington native so if anyone knows the legality of such issues that would be great to know.

    This would fall under the Washington State Tobacco and Smoking laws. Basically you would need to look at the smoking in public places law. That is about all i can share with you on the legalities of it.

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  • neurosliceneuroslice Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I heard that the tobacco laws had shut the hookah bars down; but apparently not, according to yelp: http://www.yelp.com/c/seattle/hookah_bars

    Anyway, every time I've been at PAX, there has been a hookah being smoked outside in the smoking section at some point.

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  • RazorwiredRazorwired Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    You may want to check up on the city/county to see if there's any problems but I've been to a few hookah bars throughout the state so I'd assume there'd be a place.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    neuroslice wrote: »
    I heard that the tobacco laws had shut the hookah bars down; but apparently not, according to yelp: http://www.yelp.com/c/seattle/hookah_bars

    Anyway, every time I've been at PAX, there has been a hookah being smoked outside in the smoking section at some point.

    Smoking section hookah party takeover anyone?

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    MLORD wrote: »
    I for one have a very portable hookah with multiple flavors I could bring if something was organized in advance :) Details?

    I don't have any details right now, I was more just probing to see if this was an idea the community would be interested in :/

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    tardcore wrote: »
    I've never smoked a Hookah. I've used a bong and pipe before though. Is it similar?

    Well they are actually quite different(I think). Never having smoked from a pipe or bong I can't quite say that that for certain. But a hookah is a water pipe with a bowl on top you fill with shisha (a sticky, flavored tobacco). There is either a cover or tinfoil covering the bowl and coals are placed on top of that to light the tobacco, So essentially it is a slow burning, mellow, flavored way of smoking tobacco.

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I found the legalities regarding this. From the king county website
    http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/tobacco/laws.aspx

    RCW 70.160
    Prohibits smoking in most public places and workplaces and requires that smoking occur a sufficient distance from entrances, exits, windows, and air intakes to insure that smoke does not enter a protected space.

    "Public place" means that portion of any building or vehicle used by and open to the public, regardless of whether the building or vehicle is owned in whole or in part by private persons or entities, the state of Washington, or other public entity, and regardless of whether a fee is charged for admission, and includes a presumptively reasonable minimum distance, as set forth in RCW 70.160.075, of twenty-five feet from entrances, exits, windows that open, and ventilation intakes that serve an enclosed area where smoking is prohibited. A public place does not include a private residence unless the private residence is used to provide licensed child care, foster care, adult care, or other similar social service care on the premises.

    Public places include, but are not limited to: Schools, elevators, public conveyances or transportation facilities, museums, concert halls, theaters, auditoriums, exhibition halls, indoor sports arenas, hospitals, nursing homes, health care facilities or clinics, enclosed shopping centers, retail stores, retail service establishments, financial institutions, educational facilities, ticket areas, public hearing facilities, state legislative chambers and immediately adjacent hallways, public restrooms, libraries, restaurants, waiting areas, lobbies, bars, taverns, bowling alleys, skating rinks, casinos, reception areas, and no less than seventy-five percent of the sleeping quarters within a hotel or motel that are rented to guests. A public place does not include a private residence. This chapter is not intended to restrict smoking in private facilities which are occasionally open to the public except upon the occasions when the facility is open to the public.


    Sorry about the wall of text. But as long as we are 25 feet away from a building were good so we could maybe go to a park or something cool like that. Also the pax smoking section takeover idea sounds good

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  • EmerezEmerez Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I found the legalities regarding this. From the king county website
    http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/tobacco/laws.aspx

    RCW 70.160
    Prohibits smoking in most public places and workplaces and requires that smoking occur a sufficient distance from entrances, exits, windows, and air intakes to insure that smoke does not enter a protected space.


    Sorry about the wall of text. But as long as we are 25 feet away from a building were good so we could maybe go to a park or something cool like that. Also the pax smoking section takeover idea sounds good

    Park is not a good idea unless you are going to use one of the larger/less used ones. Last year they passed new code of conduct:
    Article: http://www.seattlepi.com/default/article/Smoking-to-be-banned-in-Seattle-s-parks-897864.php
    Source: http://www.seattle.gov/parks/ParkBoard/briefings/code_of_conduct_revised.pdf

    3.2 Violations of this Administrative Rule
    The following conduct is also expressly prohibited by this administrative rule.

    3.2.10 Smoking, chewing, or other tobacco use within 25 feet of other park patrons and in play areas, beaches, or playgrounds;

    I don't think you can be arrested for it, but you could be fined or at the very least forced to leave the park for 24 hrs.

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Curses! Well thanks for bringing that to our attention because that would suck! So looks like the designated pax smoking spot takeover or hookah bar takeover

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I brought my hookah each year except the last two where I wasn't able to attend at all. Essentially there's no problem with it so long as you stay beyond the 25 feet from the door they require.

    The security guards sometimes are a hassle at the centre, thinking we're stupid enough to bring an entire tin of pot or whatever in a bright container for the shishah. All I can think of is finding someplace to give out those little plastic mouth pieces if you don't feel comfortable sharing/passing the hose around. (which I haven't ever actually been able to find, but they'd be handy/a good idea anyways)

    Other than that it's pretty decent. Haven't been rained out in any of those prior years, I met a ton of cool people, and usually the more interesting personalities come outside for a smoke and chat too.

    With luck you'll see me there, the 6'2" ghostbuster.

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  • pfdanpfdan Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    this sounds awesome I'm definitely keeping this in mind

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  • spiritdragon101spiritdragon101 Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Definitely keeping an eye on this thread, I'll put up on a ton of shisha if this happens =)
    If anybody is looking for those plastic tips for the hoses, I know two places.
    One is pretty close, the international smoke shop right next to McDonalds
    The other one is further, but you can take the monorail right to it. Beanie's Smoke shop in Seattle Center definitely has those, bought them for folklife =)

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    A hookah twitter might not be a bad idea so that anyone interested can know when it's being brought out at the smoking patio.

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  • IDS3RemixIDS3Remix Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'm all up for this. I'll be coming from California, and we have a lot of great hookah tobacco retailers out here, so if we can keep this updated, or if I can get more information, I would be more than happy to bring down some tobacco for a hookah get together.

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Sounds like there is enough interest to make this a for srs get together thing! My local smoke shop has a lot of good shisha, the plastic hose things(a great idea to prevent pax pox), and I might bring some imported coals if I can figure out a way to light them :/

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  • IDS3RemixIDS3Remix Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Sounds like there is enough interest to make this a for srs get together thing! My local smoke shop has a lot of good shisha, the plastic hose things(a great idea to prevent pax pox), and I might bring some imported coals if I can figure out a way to light them :/

    I got a few of the easy light coals, they work with a standard lighter, though aren't as long lasting as the bricks. If someone is interested in coordinating this thing, that would help. Got plenty of mouth pieces, shisha, and coals, just need to know who to speak to about it all later. :P

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  • SarahstraszaSarahstrasza Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    While we're on the topic of Shisha.. I myself was looking to get into hookahs.. for many various reasons but was curious as to how many of you have used the flavors, and what ones you have tried.

    Also know that you can buy shisha online, but does anyone know of a place in/near seattle that happens to have a lot of different flavors?

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    While we're on the topic of Shisha.. I myself was looking to get into hookahs.. for many various reasons but was curious as to how many of you have used the flavors, and what ones you have tried.

    Also know that you can buy shisha online, but does anyone know of a place in/near seattle that happens to have a lot of different flavors?

    I've found that ones that are flavored after a fruit that has a certain level of bite to the taste (raspberry/cherry for example) tend to be the best. Shishas with flavors like vanilla struck me as just kinda bland.

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    While we're on the topic of Shisha.. I myself was looking to get into hookahs.. for many various reasons but was curious as to how many of you have used the flavors, and what ones you have tried.

    Also know that you can buy shisha online, but does anyone know of a place in/near seattle that happens to have a lot of different flavors?

    I don't know of any places in Seattle that sell shisha but two brands of shisha I have found to be very good are Fantasia and Inhale

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  • tsrblketsrblke Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ok, I'm an occasionally (1/month or so) Corn Cob Smoker (Missouri Meerchum FTW!) So how would this Hookah compare? I doubt I can sneak away from my wife long enough to grab a smoke, but if I can, I'm curious.

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    tsrblke wrote: »
    Ok, I'm an occasionally (1/month or so) Corn Cob Smoker (Missouri Meerchum FTW!) So how would this Hookah compare? I doubt I can sneak away from my wife long enough to grab a smoke, but if I can, I'm curious.

    nah they aren't really sneaky, they require some setup, and time to smoke but you can go to a hookah bar I guess :/

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  • IDS3RemixIDS3Remix Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    While we're on the topic of Shisha.. I myself was looking to get into hookahs.. for many various reasons but was curious as to how many of you have used the flavors, and what ones you have tried.

    Also know that you can buy shisha online, but does anyone know of a place in/near seattle that happens to have a lot of different flavors?

    It's tough trying to recommend flavors since everyone has different taste, but I highly recommend Guava, Melon/Honeydew, and Mint Chocolate Chill/Chip. All those flavors taste exactly as they sound and are very distinct, especially the mint chocolate chip which tastes like your smoking a york mint patty. As far as brands, I highly recommend Fumari (fumari.com) for their flavors. Has yet to let me down, and they keep putting out new flavors (though the original ones are still the best).

    @tsrblke: The smoking experience itself is usually a lot more flavorful, cleaner, smoother, and can last for a pretty good while, depending on how many people are smoking from it. If you are looking to try hookah out in the wild though, your best bet for a good first time would be at an actual hookah lounge. A lot of Mediterranean restaurants (out in my area at least) have started advertising hookahs with your meal, and some of them are very poorly done.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    especially the mint chocolate chip which tastes like your smoking a york mint patty.
    Oh sweet fucking jesus, I MUST HAVE THIS.

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  • IDS3RemixIDS3Remix Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Oh hey people, since there hasn't been much talk about this for the last two weeks, thought I'd try putting my name out there, to see if anyone would be interested in working together to make this happen. If so, PM me, I'll be more than happy to bring by some flavors, charcoal, maybe a few plastic hoses (easier to clean). The only thing I would need to know is where would this be happening, and if anyone has an actual hookah or two that we can use. If others are interested, bring by your DS, PSP, laptop and get some gaming in while you take some hits from the hookah! :D

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  • edg2000edg2000 Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    so, i know the issue with the legality of smoking outdoors, but i have a very attractive solution for you. I happen to be personal friends with the owners of a chain of hookah lounges in the seattle area (1 in each: tacoma, seattle, bellingham). These dudes are chill and if you contact them ahead of time, would be more than willing to work out a deal with you for use of their space. The seattle one is getting torn down soon but i believe it will be open during pax, if not they will have moved to a new space by then.

    Links to their facebook pages
    Seattle
    Bellingham (also the original)
    Tacoma

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  • GamingGoddessGamingGoddess Profesh Nerd Phoenix, AZRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    God, I would LOVE to attend this. I don't have anything I can bring though except good vibes :'(

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  • drspacemonkey2drspacemonkey2 Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    IDS3Remix wrote: »
    Oh hey people, since there hasn't been much talk about this for the last two weeks, thought I'd try putting my name out there, to see if anyone would be interested in working together to make this happen. If so, PM me, I'll be more than happy to bring by some flavors, charcoal, maybe a few plastic hoses (easier to clean). The only thing I would need to know is where would this be happening, and if anyone has an actual hookah or two that we can use. If others are interested, bring by your DS, PSP, laptop and get some gaming in while you take some hits from the hookah! :D

    Well, assuming it's necessary, I can bring a hookah and whatever the max allowance is on importing loose tobacco in Saudi shisha. People tend to like double apple a whole bunch, but it tastes kinda licorice-y for my liking. I much prefer white grape & mint.

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    God, I would LOVE to attend this. I don't have anything I can bring though except good vibes :'(

    I'm sure there will be more than enough shisha and hookahs to share. And just as an fyi to people you don't need to bring stuff, it's just REALLY helpful.

    also I think as a side note , whoever has a hookah should ID people just to be safe first in case the police roll up you don't get tagged with a supplying tobacco to a minor fine...thatd blow.

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    edg2000 wrote: »
    so, i know the issue with the legality of smoking outdoors, but i have a very attractive solution for you. I happen to be personal friends with the owners of a chain of hookah lounges in the seattle area (1 in each: tacoma, seattle, bellingham). These dudes are chill and if you contact them ahead of time, would be more than willing to work out a deal with you for use of their space. The seattle one is getting torn down soon but i believe it will be open during pax, if not they will have moved to a new space by then.

    Links to their facebook pages
    Seattle
    Bellingham (also the original)
    Tacoma

    This actually seems like it might be a great alternative! Instead of setting up our hookahs on the street like a bunch of hobos. You should try and get us the hookup on a rental of the lounge! Because that would be a kickass option!

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  • GamingGoddessGamingGoddess Profesh Nerd Phoenix, AZRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Gah, that would be an awesome idea! THIS MUST HAPPEN! I'm sure that if you tried to rent out the place, you'd probably have to have us pay some sort of fee. Most PAX get togethers I've done include a fee. My most expensive one was about $30 bucks.

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Gah, that would be an awesome idea! THIS MUST HAPPEN! I'm sure that if you tried to rent out the place, you'd probably have to have us pay some sort of fee. Most PAX get togethers I've done include a fee. My most expensive one was about $30 bucks.

    Yea i'm not so sure waht all comes with renting the place out. It might just be exclusive use of the building, or just a section. It would be awesome if you got like X amount of bowls and x amount of shisha. The prices here are steep for your first bowl compared to where I normally go, but these guys seem to know what they are doing so It still looks all good.

    (note to self; get a count of how many people are coming)

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  • IDS3RemixIDS3Remix Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Wasn't aware there were many hookah lounges in the area near where PAX was being held. Doing a get together at a lounge would probably be a much better idea, as it'll be a little more organized, and we don't have to worry about the maintaining the hookahs on our own.

    Most hookah places don't let you rent entire areas out, unless they have the room for it. If anything, a few people could show up in groups of 3-4, and grab a hookah per that group. And on what Pillarofdawn was saying, yes, a headcount for people that are really interested in this would be helpful. Let us know so we can start making preparations. I'm not exactly in the area, but I'll try and contact whichever lounge you guys decide on, and see what we can get going.

    @drspacemonkey2: I hear you on the double apple, but double apple with mint has usually always been a winner in my group of friends for some reason. Melon and White Peach are others that rank up there pretty high for me, though I'm still trying to find a good Jasmine flavor.

    @edg2000: Thank you very much for posting the links. With the Seattle lounge being less than a mile away from the convention center, this seems like the best choice, unless someone else can weigh in? Like I said before, I'm not a native, so I can only go with the information provided by google/yelp. :P

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  • GamingGoddessGamingGoddess Profesh Nerd Phoenix, AZRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Well count me in +3 others! I'll let you all know if anything changes!

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'd be down for some epic smoke ring creation (or at least really bad attempts at epic smoke ring creation)!

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  • pillarofdawnpillarofdawn Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Well we/you/I can count me and anywhere from 4-7 other people coming.

    And perhaps not actually renting the lounge out and maybe making a reservation instead. Idk if hookah lounges do reservations or not but we can see. Also I just thought of the process of cleaning my hookah out and carrying it through downtown....I lold. I'm so anal about keeping that thing clean :

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  • edg2000edg2000 Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    most private events ive been to at the Cobra's are all-you-can-smoke for a flat rate, but they may charge everyone the $5 (i believe) fee for a "Lifetime" membership, as long as you dont lose your card. Plus for private parties you can have alcohol. also a plus. its a low-key BYOB affair, but its a possibility. They would probably give you all the whole place too, and its pretty spaceous, id say at least 15+ pipes with plenty of seating. They finally fixed up their website too, The Cobra Lounge. I sent them an email and ill give you a heads up when i hear back.

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