Yeah the accident count basically quadruples when it rains. You have a highway mix of idiots doing 80 with their bald tires and idiots doing 40 because OH GOD WATER FROM THE SKY and chaos just ensues.
And don't get me started on how nobody likes to use their turn signals out here
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
edited May 2011
Oh man. I was sitting on the porch and nothing much was happening besides some lightning in the distance. Then all the lights went out and the storm let loose. That was interesting.
What weather alarm radio is good? The one I had broke after a few months. It has a warranty, but I'm not going to experiment with model reliability on a lifesaving device.
Honestly, radio receivers are insanely simple technology. You'd have to try really hard to make a bad one.
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
edited May 2011
Just heard what sounded like a series of explosions..
This whole weather shitting everywhere at least once a week shit is making me hesitate in buying a new vehicle to replace the one that got decimated by some sweet golf ball sized hail that poured from the sky for like 5 minutes.
what are the chances the relevant states would revise their building codes to better withstand these kind of events?
I know Australia really overhauled our codes, most other states taking their lead from the Northen territory, following cyclone Tracy back in 74 which decimated Darwin, the capital city of the NT. We've got fairly strict building codes which does mean any development is more costly, but in cyclone prone areas I think they've proven their worth.
Does anyone think they'll be a serious review once everything returns to some semblance of order? Did people have these conversation following Katrina?
Well, Katrina's devastation I believe came mostly from the levees.
There isn't much you can do to tornado proof your homes. In the midwest and parts of the south tornadoes are a big problem in a certain part of the year. They come out of nowhere and can be very deadly. The warnings and such are really for just weather that can produce tornadoes. Sometimes you can get knowledge beforehand with a short amount of time to prepare, but it's best to be prepared for the possibility before they happen.
A hurricane is very different in the amount of forewarning you get. Whereas you could have just a severe storm that's like the thousands you've witnessed before, but this time a tornado happens to touch down in your backyard and it goes on to destroy everything for miles around and then just like it appeared in a flash it's gone.
You just have to be prepared with a good spot to take cover, a radio, and maybe some first aid.
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The reason I think for a lot of us Midwesterners and southerners are on edge now is because of the string of bad tornadoes starting last month. I'm don't normally stress out over it, but it does seem bad.
Well, Katrina's devastation I believe came mostly from the levees.
There isn't much you can do to tornado proof your homes. In the midwest and parts of the south tornadoes are a big problem in a certain part of the year. They come out of nowhere and can be very deadly. The warnings and such are really for just weather that can produce tornadoes. Sometimes you can get knowledge beforehand with a short amount of time to prepare, but it's best to be prepared for the possibility before they happen.
A hurricane is very different in the amount of forewarning you get. Whereas you could have just a severe storm that's like the thousands you've witnessed before, but this time a tornado happens to touch down in your backyard and it goes on to destroy everything for miles around and then just like it appeared in a flash it's gone.
You just have to be prepared with a good spot to take cover, a radio, and maybe some first aid.
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The reason I think for a lot of us Midwesterners and southerners are on edge now is because of the string of bad tornadoes starting last month. I'm don't normally stress out over it, but it does seem bad.
Basically all of this. Also this is the first year that my weather report has not only said tornadoes likely in the actual forecast but has said it multiple times in the span of the last few weeks. Not be on the lookout, or possible, but storms from 1-5am with possible/probable tornado. It's pretty scary to see that.
They can form or dissipate incredibly fast with little to no warning and change direction very quickly. There's no weeks or days of warning, they can form over one field, take out two houses, and leave the rest of the area untouched, or form a mile-wide path of fuck you that runs over several (hundred) miles faster than you could drive a car.
It does not help that in certain areas you get so used to being under a tornado watch that it no longer holds any value for you. Imagine if you spent 30+ hours a week, four to six months a year being told something might possibly happen and then it didn't, for years and years and years, how long are you going to really put a lot of faith in it ever happening? So you write it off because hell it hasn't ever happened before, and then bam it does and people die.
Yeah, since the tornados can get up to over 250mph(?) I can appreciate that it's a bit hard to weather proof structures for that. Tracy was around the 200mph mark, I think.
Macro, so you'd say that generally the standards to which structures are the at the best compromise of strength vs cost/ease of construction? I'm genuinely curious because this came up over dinner the other night
well, you could design it to be aerodynamically stable under tornado force gales
maybe do some windtunnel testing
probably end up with a long gentle slope and really solid building materials
Eh. Against EF-4 and EF-5 tornadoes, nothing really stands a chance - the thing with these really strong tornadoes is that there is also a large enough atmospheric pressure differential that houses literally explode. There are things you can do to when building a home to help with EF3 and below tornadoes (mostly related to the foundation), but the odds of getting hit at a given point are so low that it isn't worth dramatically increasing the cost of living to do it.
I think a lot of people living in Joplin were fairly desensitized to tornadoes. I know I was when I lived there.
Anytime it gets a little fucking cloudy there's a god damn tornado watch.
There's hardly any time at all in the spring when that place isn't under a watch or warning.
Fucking tornado alley and it's cones of death.
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edited May 2011
Same down here.
There's such a thing as desensitization.
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Our fucking sidewalk gets all flooded.
Honestly, radio receivers are insanely simple technology. You'd have to try really hard to make a bad one.
Shit will be here soon enough and here I was hoping to get some sleep tonight.
It's over here on the west coast. Has been for awhile now.
Holy shit at 1:35
The west coast of Ohio?
New Madrid has sunk you guys and I wasn't told about this?
West coast of Indiana.
I know Australia really overhauled our codes, most other states taking their lead from the Northen territory, following cyclone Tracy back in 74 which decimated Darwin, the capital city of the NT. We've got fairly strict building codes which does mean any development is more costly, but in cyclone prone areas I think they've proven their worth.
Does anyone think they'll be a serious review once everything returns to some semblance of order? Did people have these conversation following Katrina?
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There isn't much you can do to tornado proof your homes. In the midwest and parts of the south tornadoes are a big problem in a certain part of the year. They come out of nowhere and can be very deadly. The warnings and such are really for just weather that can produce tornadoes. Sometimes you can get knowledge beforehand with a short amount of time to prepare, but it's best to be prepared for the possibility before they happen.
A hurricane is very different in the amount of forewarning you get. Whereas you could have just a severe storm that's like the thousands you've witnessed before, but this time a tornado happens to touch down in your backyard and it goes on to destroy everything for miles around and then just like it appeared in a flash it's gone.
You just have to be prepared with a good spot to take cover, a radio, and maybe some first aid.
edit:
The reason I think for a lot of us Midwesterners and southerners are on edge now is because of the string of bad tornadoes starting last month. I'm don't normally stress out over it, but it does seem bad.
Basically all of this. Also this is the first year that my weather report has not only said tornadoes likely in the actual forecast but has said it multiple times in the span of the last few weeks. Not be on the lookout, or possible, but storms from 1-5am with possible/probable tornado. It's pretty scary to see that.
They can form or dissipate incredibly fast with little to no warning and change direction very quickly. There's no weeks or days of warning, they can form over one field, take out two houses, and leave the rest of the area untouched, or form a mile-wide path of fuck you that runs over several (hundred) miles faster than you could drive a car.
It does not help that in certain areas you get so used to being under a tornado watch that it no longer holds any value for you. Imagine if you spent 30+ hours a week, four to six months a year being told something might possibly happen and then it didn't, for years and years and years, how long are you going to really put a lot of faith in it ever happening? So you write it off because hell it hasn't ever happened before, and then bam it does and people die.
maybe do some windtunnel testing
probably end up with a long gentle slope and really solid building materials
Macro, so you'd say that generally the standards to which structures are the at the best compromise of strength vs cost/ease of construction? I'm genuinely curious because this came up over dinner the other night
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Eh. Against EF-4 and EF-5 tornadoes, nothing really stands a chance - the thing with these really strong tornadoes is that there is also a large enough atmospheric pressure differential that houses literally explode. There are things you can do to when building a home to help with EF3 and below tornadoes (mostly related to the foundation), but the odds of getting hit at a given point are so low that it isn't worth dramatically increasing the cost of living to do it.
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Anytime it gets a little fucking cloudy there's a god damn tornado watch.
There's hardly any time at all in the spring when that place isn't under a watch or warning.
Fucking tornado alley and it's cones of death.
There's such a thing as desensitization.