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    SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    kedinik wrote: »
    I'm really confused.

    I've just never seen ultras do well against anything. Not even when Spanishiwa tried to nydus a bunch of ultra/queen/infestor straight into a good location!

    Infested terrans can screw with ultra AI and zone out infestors from fungaling your roaches.

    Roaches kite ultras really well.

    Roach/hydra kills ultra for cost in stand-up fights.

    Obv broodlords have a field day with Ultras and their AI.

    Broodlords pretty much have a field day with every unit's AI, do they not? Most of the reason they are so scary is for me is that I have to manually kill each one, if you leave your army alone for a second you die.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Evangir wrote: »
    If July had've gone BLs instead I think he might've just auto-won.

    Nestea already had a Spire.
    July had plenty of Fungals and Nestea dumped all of his resources into Ultras, so I don't think that would've mattered.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ultra/Infestor is pretty damn good against mass roach.

    And with spinecrawlers it's close to impossible to break an ultra line with infestor support without air.

    But that's about it for ultras other than killing PFs good.

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2011
    Wat is you watching bros?

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Spaffy wrote: »
    kedinik wrote: »
    I'm really confused.

    I've just never seen ultras do well against anything. Not even when Spanishiwa tried to nydus a bunch of ultra/queen/infestor straight into a good location!

    Infested terrans can screw with ultra AI and zone out infestors from fungaling your roaches.

    Roaches kite ultras really well.

    Roach/hydra kills ultra for cost in stand-up fights.

    Obv broodlords have a field day with Ultras and their AI.

    Broodlords pretty much have a field day with every unit's AI, do they not? Most of the reason they are so scary is for me is that I have to manually kill each one, if you leave your army alone for a second you die.

    It's especially bad for ultras, they're seriously terrible at basic movement.

    Marines, stalkers, hydras... anything that size and smaller can pretty much squeeze around the broodlings and do their thing.

    Not that it matters terribly much, bottom line is you're opting for a terrible ground-to-ground unit trumped by mid-tech + good micro instead of a potent air-to-ground siege unit.

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2011
    I raped ultras with stalkers. I don't usually play protoss, and to be honest never face ultras so I don't know if that is supposed to happen. I did have blink, but I did not really use it well at that time.

    He stormed me with roaches and ultras, and it looked like I would have the smaller army but it worked out really well.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ultras generally get thrashed by mildly low-tech units (stalkers, marauders, roaches) unless they get good fungal support.

    Good ht/ghost/counter-infestor play pretty much nullifies ultra/infestor.

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    PoolCuePoolCue Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Honk wrote: »
    Wat is you watching bros?

    GSL Code S matches

    you can watch it at www.gomtv.net

    not a very good quality free stream

    watchable though

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    PoolCuePoolCue Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    bl july

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2011
    Thanks mate!

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Least he's still in code S.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I think blink is the new pvz hotness tbh

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    anyone else unable to connect to NA?

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    I think blink is the new pvz hotness tbh
    Yeah but you need to transition into it from a 15 Nexus

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    anyone else unable to connect to NA?

    Yeah not working.

    Maybe they're trying to fix the broken-ass ladder.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The Korean Protoss HwangSin, who won TL Open #16, has a stream.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    I think blink is the new pvz hotness tbh
    Yeah but you need to transition into it from a 15 Nexus

    you can actually transition into it from nearly anything, which is the strength of it.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    that was pretty good play by anypro

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    "IM NOT SURE WHY HE FEEDBACKED INSTEAD OF STORM"

    oh wait MAYBE ITS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE STORM

    the production tab was even open, god.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Wolf's a nice enough guy but constantly puts his foot in his mouth.

    e: "TAKING A LOT OF FREE HITS BEING INDECISIVE ON MOVE COMMAND" is probably the worst one. Says it all the goddamn time, rarely actually has anything to do with what's going on.

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    FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The code A player introductions are amazing this season.

    The code S ones are just kinda creepy.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Oh, that reminds me of MC's GSL-esque intros during Dreamhack.

    Did a manly voice for one player and k-pop girl voice for the other one.

    e: Also Dhal, got some time to play some ZvT's when these games finish? How late are you usually up?

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    SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Damn baneling drops D:

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    FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    That was a scary push.

    Guess the protoss had to fight it midfield, to gain more space to run or something?

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I've seen really good blink stalker micro trivialize baneling drops.

    But they needed lots of open space and pretty much perfect micro.

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    SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Kinda need to split your stalkers with blink, around their path/drop path

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    SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Wood Leaguing it up playing NA Ladder http://www.justin.tv/thewoodleagueallstars

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    TannerMSTannerMS "I'm confidence cause I'm zerg!" Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Inka was suggesting that you need immortals to deal with baneling drops, instead of rolling towards the fleeing stalkers, they crash into the immortal (15 hits to down it). Also, Broodlords are terrible in ZvZ, Corruptors can maneuver around fungal. Ultras are fricken awesome, you just have to baby sit them.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    tanner i need u in about 30 mins

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    TannerMSTannerMS "I'm confidence cause I'm zerg!" Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    tanner i need u in about 30 mins

    jahrgkljaerkjgh I'll be in class for the next three hours, sorry

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TannerMS wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    tanner i need u in about 30 mins

    jahrgkljaerkjgh I'll be in class for the next three hours, sorry


    ... get a room

    and post the replay

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    mmmig i need u then

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    in like 20 mins

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    sorry bub

    you can't afford this

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    you're wfc i dont have to buy you this week

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Oy Dhal, quit dodging and practice ZvT with me.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    NA server down anyway bleh

    edit: kedinik, ZvT? I am not good enough at T to be any sort of practise partner.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    going to stream some korean ladder for a while, in the diamond league

    www.justin.tv/dhalphir

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Pretty sure Seguer's streaming NA ladder games while I sit in the PA lobby.

    !

    e: No really, my ZvT is borderline diamond level. I rarely win ZvT's.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    well i cant log on

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