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MLB: Nearly halfway through the draft! (Slow Draft Rd 11/12 - FortyTwo's up)

Goose!Goose! That's me, honeyShow me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
edited February 2012 in Social Entropy++
SPRING TRAINING is here again and we are totally slow drafting our league here!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmkkuCZ1Um-odEo1Y1BhaTJqc2hQQUdHbXZXYWdjd2c

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited July 2011
    well at least now we'll get our hourly updates on derek jeter's rehab

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I told someone to not let this happen.

    You all failed me.

    8 months from now I will have to take matters into my own hands.

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  • HjorvarthrHjorvarthr Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I could have made a Thome chase to 600 thread


    he only needs 5 more taters!


    And maybe the Rays should have scored some runs on Duensing

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  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    You want a chase thread? Sure!

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    So in terms of fantasy baseball, it is currently Week 14, and there have been only 3 weeks in which I haven't been in first place.

    Love fantasy baseball, especially because this is my first year.

    In terms of regular baseball, go Jeter, go Nats, poor Pujols, All Star game coming up woo, etc, etc

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    In the SE league?

    Well...the thing about that...I appear to be in second place overall. I have not checked my team in like months. Soooooo

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    That non Yankees title lasted a whole 7 minutes

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Yeah, that was pretty dickish Goose, you could have given someone else a turn.

    In fact, I know Zen said he wanted to make the new thread, you could have let him.

    Well maybe not dickish. I dunno.

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  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I saw the thread was closed, I made a new one. I saw the thread title, thought it was humorous, and was answering back.

    I didn't realize how serious these things were.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    What you don't realize is how annoying your threads and posts are

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    more like gay-seball

    and thus ends my contribution to this thread

    (hi goose and also jasc)

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Jasconius wrote: »
    What you don't realize is how annoying your threads and posts are

    To be fair/nice/honest, this isn't true all the time.

    That being said, I despise the Yankees, and gotta agree, at least about this thread/posts.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    fuck derek jeter

    he is a piece of shit and plays fucking dirty

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited July 2011
  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    you should've shot arod

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited July 2011
    xehalus your talent at repeating things that have already been said is hall of fame worthy

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    SPOILERTH

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    xehalus your talent at repeating things that have already been said is hall of fame worthy

    Still better than the threads he makes.

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    You guys can gang up all you want.

    At the end of day, you gotta wake up tomorrow and have the same life you had before you woke up today.

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  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I got to see Jeter play for the US in that world baseball championship thing a few years ago against Japan

    He didn't get any hits and made an error that let in a run

    Fuck Derek Jeter

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  • FortyTwoFortyTwo strongest man in the world The Land of Pleasant Living Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    My baseball team, both fantasy and real life, kinda suck.

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  • zucchinizucchini robothero pretty much amazingRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Chase Utley thread

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    Chase seems like an alright dude.

    Jeter's kind of a prick though.

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  • zucchinizucchini robothero pretty much amazingRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Phillies team wOBA at 2nd base: .302
    Second Base: This is not Chase Utley‘s fault. His .382 wOBA is best among second basemen with 150 or more plate appearances. Instead, blame the trio of Wilson Valdez, Pete Orr, and Michael Martinez who filled in for Utley while he was recovering from an injury and racked up 56 percent of all of the plate appearances at second base.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    What the fuck is wOBA?

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    fuck derek jeter

    he is a piece of shit and plays fucking dirty

    I'm not aware of any overtly dirty plays by him but he's certainly not the epitome of class like he's often lauded to be and now he's overpaid as shit.

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  • thanimationsthanimations Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    What the fuck is wOBA?

    "First off, wOBA is a linear weight formula presented as a rate statistic scaled to On Base Percentage. Essentially, what that means is that average wOBA will always equal average OBP for any given year. If you know what the league’s OBP is, you know what the league’s wOBA is. Usually, league average falls in the .335 range – it was .332 last year, but offense was down around the game in 2008, which may or may not continue."

    So it attempts to show what a player's average type of on-base action (single, home run, walk, whatever) but uses a weighted scale instead of a simple linear progression.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    Yeah...I uh...I don't understand Sabremetrics at all. Like I read that, and I still don't understand what wOBA is.

    Which brings to the fact that I saw the trailer for Moneyball before T3. What a load horseshit that movie looks like.

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  • SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Cal Ripken Jr and Ozzie Smith are both better than Jeter.

    Cy Young was a better shortstop than Jeter is.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    SeñorAmor wrote: »
    Cal Ripken Jr and Ozzie Smith are both better than Jeter.

    Cy Young was a better shortstop than Jeter is.

    Omar Vizquel has played 6 more seasons and has 40 less errors on his career. Defensively I don't see how anyone could say there's ever been anyone better at short than Vizquel.

    Also, at age 44 he's currently batting higher than Jeter and batted higher last year.

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  • simosimo Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Yeah...I uh...I don't understand Sabremetrics at all. Like I read that, and I still don't understand what wOBA is.

    Which brings to the fact that I saw the trailer for Moneyball before T3. What a load horseshit that movie looks like.

    "weighting" means each time a player reaches base, you take into account how he got on base and adjust accordingly

    that is, you multiply the players home runs by a certain constant weight (you don't really have to understand how these weights were calculated to understand how woba works but here's a table: http://www.tangotiger.net/customlwts.html), triples by another weight and so on for doubles, singles, walks, hbp

    then you divide by plate appearances

    there is then also an additional scaling so that the league average of woba corresponds to the league average of obp

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  • simosimo Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Butters wrote: »
    SeñorAmor wrote: »
    Cal Ripken Jr and Ozzie Smith are both better than Jeter.

    Cy Young was a better shortstop than Jeter is.

    Omar Vizquel has played 6 more seasons and has 40 less errors on his career. Defensively I don't see how anyone could say there's ever been anyone better at short than Vizquel.

    Also, at age 44 he's currently batting higher than Jeter and batted higher last year.

    better than ozzie smith? really?

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  • MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Vizquel is probably the most technically sound SS ever. He's not as flashy as Ozzie was but he'll make every single routine play you throw at him.

    Omar's FP: .984
    Ozzie's FP: .978

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    but guys derek jeter played for new york

    that makes him the best because new york is the best team


    its really pretty simple when you view it in this manner

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  • redfenixredfenix Aka'd as rfix Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    As as St. Louis area native

    I just came in here to back up Ozzie Smith
    ok, cya i don't know shit about baseball

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2011
    NOMAH RULES
    JETER SUCKS

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  • MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    The Yankees traded Jeter to the Twins in my Show franchise so he can't be that good.

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Xehalus wrote: »
    You guys can gang up all you want.

    At the end of day, you gotta wake up tomorrow and have the same life you had before you woke up today.

    i know, right? it's so awesome. i'm sorry you don't get to be this great.

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  • simosimo Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    MaximumJ wrote: »
    Vizquel is probably the most technically sound SS ever. He's not as flashy as Ozzie was but he'll make every single routine play you throw at him.

    Omar's FP: .984
    Ozzie's FP: .978

    except fielding percentage isn't that useful as a metric

    besides the myriad of inconsistencies in baseball's scoring system itself, it only applies to balls a fielder gets to and thus benefits players with less range (eg if 2 players have 20 balls hit their way, and player a gets to 18 of them, committing 2 errors, while players b gets to 14 of them, committing 0 errors, player b has a higher fp (1.000 to .889) despite allowing 2 more baserunners than player a)

    pretty much every defensive metric besides fp (including the Eye Test) favors ozzie smith by a pretty significant amount

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Vizquel was plenty flashy. He'd easily hurdle anyone that attempted to slide into him and he could bare-hand damn near anything. Sometimes I'd cringe at what he'd grab with his bare hand.
    simo wrote: »
    pretty much every defensive metric besides fp (including the Eye Test) favors ozzie smith by a pretty significant amount

    Including Ozzie's 100 more errors in 3 fewer seasons?

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