So Murdoch Senior is in London and has met with Brooks. Apparently NOTW's final edition sold 30% more than a normal Sunday edition. I can offer some anecdotal evidence of this, when I visited some friends who had three copies, where this was the first time they'd ever purchased the paper. They did it in order to hopefully make money in the future, based on rarity
I think it was the Guardian special where I read that they estimated most of the ex NOTW readers will probably go to the Mail, which is mildly depressing
I think it was the Guardian special where I read that they estimated most of the ex NOTW readers will probably go to the Mail, which is mildly depressing
It will disappoint them. It has plenty of the thinly-veiled xenophobia, but none of the tits. They'll have to learn to be content with sweaty-palmed uncle captions underneath a more discreet form of panty shot. They will thrill to the sight of the minor aristocracy stumbling out of cabs and showing a bit of thigh, and the thought of Sophie, 19, from Basingstoke, in a thong (and who wants you to know that she's terribly worried about the effect that Nick Clegg is having on Cameron's government) will be but a distant memory.
So Murdoch Senior is in London and has met with Brooks. Apparently NOTW's final edition sold 30% more than a normal Sunday edition. I can offer some anecdotal evidence of this, when I visited some friends who had three copies, where this was the first time they'd ever purchased the paper. They did it in order to hopefully make money in the future, based on rarity
Tell them the crossword section is where the hidden gems are.
Philippe about the tactical deployment of german Kradschützen during the battle of Kursk:
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
Philippe about the tactical deployment of german Kradschützen during the battle of Kursk:
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
So apparently the next big event will be whether or not Labour puts a motion to parliament on Wednesday calling for a delay on the BSkyB deal and that the LibDems have a free vote on the matter, if it is lodged
So I was just looking at some blogs (in this case, a NZ blog frequented by people who used to live in the UK or ar UK expats), and someone posted the text below (in italics), about a similar but low level BSkyB scandal regarding ITV Digital. I don't know of the events around the below as I could care less about football, but it does seem pretty worrying:
For interest: I tweeted a bit of this but thought it worth a broader explanation.
Why Murdoch should never be allowed to get anywhere near a BSkyB takeover.
ITVDigital launched a new satellite channel in the UK, they used the same encrypted card system used by a major French broadcaster Canal plus. These guys are in competition with Sky, and they bought the rights to National league football at considerable cost for distribution on their network starting in 2011. By mid 2000 the European markets were flooded with cracked decoder cards for Canal plus and ITVDigital.
The only group known to have cracked these cards was an Israeli branch of NDS a tech company owned by Newscorp. It appears that they were paid to do this.
Meanwhile a British arm of NDS gave funds to a site called the House of Ill Compute where the code for cracking the cards appeared. This seems to have been facilitated by a guy called Ray Adams a “retired” Met Policeman (then head of security at NDS) with a controversial past. Adams paid another guy called Lee Gibling who ran the House of Ill Compute who “disappeared” at the time when all this kicked off and Canal+ started litigation.
The result of the cracked code was catastrophic for British Football because without fee paying subscribers ITVDigital had no hope of paying clubs the fees they owed. Football clubs would have undoubtedly spent much of their money in advance. Elsewhere ITVDigital was under pressure from BSB allegedly at the behest of guess who?
ITVDigital was in the hands of the liquidators by 2002.
It appears that 2002 for Rupert.
This is the sort of stuff that makes movies but no one really wants the bad guy to win do they ?
These links are all to the Guardian I’m afraid they are the only ones could find.
It will be interesting to see what Private Eye has to say about this. Though they are witty, they're also quite insightful in affairs that we might be missing. I imagine Ian Hislop must be rubbing his hands in glee.
So I was just looking at some blogs (in this case, a NZ blog frequented by people who used to live in the UK or ar UK expats), and someone posted the text below (in italics), about a similar but low level BSkyB scandal regarding ITV Digital. I don't know of the events around the below as I could care less about football, but it does seem pretty worrying:
For interest: I tweeted a bit of this but thought it worth a broader explanation.
Why Murdoch should never be allowed to get anywhere near a BSkyB takeover.
ITVDigital launched a new satellite channel in the UK, they used the same encrypted card system used by a major French broadcaster Canal plus. These guys are in competition with Sky, and they bought the rights to National league football at considerable cost for distribution on their network starting in 2011. By mid 2000 the European markets were flooded with cracked decoder cards for Canal plus and ITVDigital.
The only group known to have cracked these cards was an Israeli branch of NDS a tech company owned by Newscorp. It appears that they were paid to do this.
Meanwhile a British arm of NDS gave funds to a site called the House of Ill Compute where the code for cracking the cards appeared. This seems to have been facilitated by a guy called Ray Adams a “retired” Met Policeman (then head of security at NDS) with a controversial past. Adams paid another guy called Lee Gibling who ran the House of Ill Compute who “disappeared” at the time when all this kicked off and Canal+ started litigation.
The result of the cracked code was catastrophic for British Football because without fee paying subscribers ITVDigital had no hope of paying clubs the fees they owed. Football clubs would have undoubtedly spent much of their money in advance. Elsewhere ITVDigital was under pressure from BSB allegedly at the behest of guess who?
ITVDigital was in the hands of the liquidators by 2002.
It appears that 2002 for Rupert.
This is the sort of stuff that makes movies but no one really wants the bad guy to win do they ?
So I was just looking at some blogs (in this case, a NZ blog frequented by people who used to live in the UK or ar UK expats), and someone posted the text below (in italics), about a similar but low level BSkyB scandal regarding ITV Digital. I don't know of the events around the below as I could care less about football, but it does seem pretty worrying:
For interest: I tweeted a bit of this but thought it worth a broader explanation.
Why Murdoch should never be allowed to get anywhere near a BSkyB takeover.
ITVDigital launched a new satellite channel in the UK, they used the same encrypted card system used by a major French broadcaster Canal plus. These guys are in competition with Sky, and they bought the rights to National league football at considerable cost for distribution on their network starting in 2011. By mid 2000 the European markets were flooded with cracked decoder cards for Canal plus and ITVDigital.
The only group known to have cracked these cards was an Israeli branch of NDS a tech company owned by Newscorp. It appears that they were paid to do this.
Meanwhile a British arm of NDS gave funds to a site called the House of Ill Compute where the code for cracking the cards appeared. This seems to have been facilitated by a guy called Ray Adams a “retired” Met Policeman (then head of security at NDS) with a controversial past. Adams paid another guy called Lee Gibling who ran the House of Ill Compute who “disappeared” at the time when all this kicked off and Canal+ started litigation.
The result of the cracked code was catastrophic for British Football because without fee paying subscribers ITVDigital had no hope of paying clubs the fees they owed. Football clubs would have undoubtedly spent much of their money in advance. Elsewhere ITVDigital was under pressure from BSB allegedly at the behest of guess who?
ITVDigital was in the hands of the liquidators by 2002.
It appears that 2002 for Rupert.
This is the sort of stuff that makes movies but no one really wants the bad guy to win do they ?
So apparently the next big event will be whether or not Labour puts a motion to parliament on Wednesday calling for a delay on the BSkyB deal and that the LibDems have a free vote on the matter, if it is lodged
Yeah it'll be interesting if the Tory's are able to put forward an compromise that will satisfy their own members and the Liberals before wedesday. Mills is having a really good scandal.
Bastable on
Philippe about the tactical deployment of german Kradschützen during the battle of Kursk:
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
I like the reports about MP's wandering around looking dazed and giddy with the newfound freedom to talk about the Murdoch press honestly, as if they've seen sunlight for the first time.
I like the reports about MP's wandering around looking dazed and giddy with the newfound freedom to talk about the Murdoch press honestly, as if they've seen sunlight for the first time.
It's like they pulled back the curtain and found the Great and Powerful Oz is just a wizened mad old midget...
So apparently the next big event will be whether or not Labour puts a motion to parliament on Wednesday calling for a delay on the BSkyB deal and that the LibDems have a free vote on the matter, if it is lodged
Yeah it'll be interesting if the Tory's are able to put forward an compromise that will satisfy their own members and the Liberals before wedesday. Mills is having a really good scandal.
I agree, this has come along just in time for him. I think his performance has been good enough too
Murdoch's NewsCorp is now facing criminal investigation in America. A probe that would investigate every single NewsCorp branch and affiliate. Your move, Murdoch.
Thirty years of Murdoch getting his own way makes me cautious about premature celebrations, but those certainly do look like chickens coming home to roost.
I like the reports about MP's wandering around looking dazed and giddy with the newfound freedom to talk about the Murdoch press honestly, as if they've seen sunlight for the first time.
It's like they pulled back the curtain and found the Great and Powerful Oz is just a wizened mad old midget...
Thirty years of Murdoch getting his own way makes me cautious about premature celebrations, but those certainly do look like chickens coming home to roost.
Yeah, I mean, you look at what Berlusconi's been up to in Italy and yet somehow is still able to stay in charge of the country. I remember my teacher in 6th Form pointing out how similar he and Murdoch were with their powerful media empires, but his mistake was to go into leadership while Murdoch preferred to pull strings without all the attention on himself. Short of finding actual bodies, weapons and fingerprints, I still reckon News Corp will survive this.
Thirty years of Murdoch getting his own way makes me cautious about premature celebrations, but those certainly do look like chickens coming home to roost.
Yeah, I mean, you look at what Berlusconi's been up to in Italy and yet somehow is still able to stay in charge of the country. I remember my teacher in 6th Form pointing out how similar he and Murdoch were with their powerful media empires, but his mistake was to go into leadership while Murdoch preferred to pull strings without all the attention on himself. Short of finding actual bodies, weapons and fingerprints, I still reckon News Corp will survive this.
Oh no doubt. But this is some seriously nasty shit - 9/11 man.
NewsCorp and Fox News will now be defending themselves in front of a criminal investigation. Their own rhetoric of "innocent people don't get investigated" is now going to damn them. Their competition is not going to let this opportunity pass, people like Beck et al. are going to ride this for all its worth.
Journalists from across News International repeatedly targeted the former prime minister Gordon Brown, attempting to access his voicemail and obtaining information from his bank account, his legal file as well as his family's medical records.
Confidential health records for Brown's family have reached the media on two different occasions. In October 2006, the then editor of the Sun, Rebekah Brooks, contacted the Browns to tell them that they had obtained details from the medical file of their four-month-old son, Fraser, which revealed that the boy was suffering from cystic fibrosis. This appears to have been a clear breach of the Data Protection Act, which would allow such a disclosure only if it was in the public interest. Friends of the Browns say the call caused them immense distress, since they were only coming to terms with the diagnosis, which had not been confirmed. The Sun published the story.
people like Beck et al. are going to ride this for all its worth.
I thought that sorry excuse for a carnival barker got kicked off the air?
Possibly to go work at actual carnivals?
No, he and Fox parted ways because he wanted more control and more money. Now he's directly competing with Fox, much like Olbermann is now competing with MSNBC.
Thirty years of Murdoch getting his own way makes me cautious about premature celebrations, but those certainly do look like chickens coming home to roost.
Yeah, I mean, you look at what Berlusconi's been up to in Italy and yet somehow is still able to stay in charge of the country. I remember my teacher in 6th Form pointing out how similar he and Murdoch were with their powerful media empires, but his mistake was to go into leadership while Murdoch preferred to pull strings without all the attention on himself. Short of finding actual bodies, weapons and fingerprints, I still reckon News Corp will survive this.
The Sun (and to a lesser extent the Times) ignoring this story for years is a pretty chilling demonstration of why media monopolies are bad. If no one ever hears about what you're doing, no one can ever be outraged.
Thirty years of Murdoch getting his own way makes me cautious about premature celebrations, but those certainly do look like chickens coming home to roost.
Yeah, I mean, you look at what Berlusconi's been up to in Italy and yet somehow is still able to stay in charge of the country. I remember my teacher in 6th Form pointing out how similar he and Murdoch were with their powerful media empires, but his mistake was to go into leadership while Murdoch preferred to pull strings without all the attention on himself. Short of finding actual bodies, weapons and fingerprints, I still reckon News Corp will survive this.
The Sun (and to a lesser extent the Times) ignoring this story for years is a pretty chilling demonstration of why media monopolies are bad. If no one ever hears about what you're doing, no one can ever be outraged.
Yeah, this is exactly my thinking over the whole thing. If they can snuff out a story simply by ignoring it (as looked likely to happen with this before the Milly Dowler story broke), that shows they already have too much control. Outraged celebrities? That's perfect Sun fodder, yet somehow they didn't want to talk about it.. so yeah, hopefully in amongst all the political posturing and grabs for attention, an actual positive shakeup of our media might just, just maybe start to take place.
edit: Pretty sure this doesn't need anything else said. Just read and despair. Then vow, as an individual, as a human, never to support this most appalling, disgusting excuse for a newspaper.
THIS year has seen your No1 Sun online break some cracking news stories.
We set the news agenda on November 30, breaking the sad news that Gordon Brown's baby boy Fraser has Cystic Fibrosis.
As well as telling the devastating news, the story was used to increase national understanding of the condition, in partnership with the Cystic Fibrosis Trust.
In October 2006, the then editor of the Sun, Rebekah Brooks, contacted the Browns to tell them that they had obtained details from the medical file of their four-month-old son, Fraser, which revealed that the boy was suffering from cystic fibrosis. This appears to have been a clear breach of the Data Protection Act, which would allow such a disclosure only if it was in the public interest. Friends of the Browns say the call caused them immense distress, since they were only coming to terms with the diagnosis, which had not been confirmed. The Sun published the story.
So Hunt has referred the BSkyB purchase to the Competition Commission, but not long before NI changed the proposal in such a way that perhaps made it easier for the government to do that. I'm not really sure on the details here, or what NI is playing at
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It will disappoint them. It has plenty of the thinly-veiled xenophobia, but none of the tits. They'll have to learn to be content with sweaty-palmed uncle captions underneath a more discreet form of panty shot. They will thrill to the sight of the minor aristocracy stumbling out of cabs and showing a bit of thigh, and the thought of Sophie, 19, from Basingstoke, in a thong (and who wants you to know that she's terribly worried about the effect that Nick Clegg is having on Cameron's government) will be but a distant memory.
Until the Sun on Sunday starts up again, anyway.
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Tell them the crossword section is where the hidden gems are.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/11/news-of-the-world-crossword
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
Oh Polly with lines like these you can have all the plain crackers you want.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/10/miliband-initiative-commons-vote-bskyb
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
For interest: I tweeted a bit of this but thought it worth a broader explanation.
Why Murdoch should never be allowed to get anywhere near a BSkyB takeover.
ITVDigital launched a new satellite channel in the UK, they used the same encrypted card system used by a major French broadcaster Canal plus. These guys are in competition with Sky, and they bought the rights to National league football at considerable cost for distribution on their network starting in 2011. By mid 2000 the European markets were flooded with cracked decoder cards for Canal plus and ITVDigital.
The only group known to have cracked these cards was an Israeli branch of NDS a tech company owned by Newscorp. It appears that they were paid to do this.
Meanwhile a British arm of NDS gave funds to a site called the House of Ill Compute where the code for cracking the cards appeared. This seems to have been facilitated by a guy called Ray Adams a “retired” Met Policeman (then head of security at NDS) with a controversial past. Adams paid another guy called Lee Gibling who ran the House of Ill Compute who “disappeared” at the time when all this kicked off and Canal+ started litigation.
The result of the cracked code was catastrophic for British Football because without fee paying subscribers ITVDigital had no hope of paying clubs the fees they owed. Football clubs would have undoubtedly spent much of their money in advance. Elsewhere ITVDigital was under pressure from BSB allegedly at the behest of guess who?
ITVDigital was in the hands of the liquidators by 2002.
It appears that 2002 for Rupert.
This is the sort of stuff that makes movies but no one really wants the bad guy to win do they ?
These links are all to the Guardian I’m afraid they are the only ones could find.
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Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Link 5
You got a link to the blog there please Kalkino?
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See page three of the comments for the original of what I posted
Yeah it'll be interesting if the Tory's are able to put forward an compromise that will satisfy their own members and the Liberals before wedesday. Mills is having a really good scandal.
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
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It's like they pulled back the curtain and found the Great and Powerful Oz is just a wizened mad old midget...
I agree, this has come along just in time for him. I think his performance has been good enough too
I suggest changing [UK Phone Hacking] to [NewsCorp Criminal Conspiracy]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/8629180/Rupert-Murdochs-News-Corp-could-face-100m-bill-for-US-investigation-into-police-payments.html
Womp womp
Murdoch's NewsCorp is now facing criminal investigation in America. A probe that would investigate every single NewsCorp branch and affiliate. Your move, Murdoch.
James Murdoch will need to live in the Jungle by the end of this.
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Yeah, I mean, you look at what Berlusconi's been up to in Italy and yet somehow is still able to stay in charge of the country. I remember my teacher in 6th Form pointing out how similar he and Murdoch were with their powerful media empires, but his mistake was to go into leadership while Murdoch preferred to pull strings without all the attention on himself. Short of finding actual bodies, weapons and fingerprints, I still reckon News Corp will survive this.
Hacking 9/11 victims might make this spread to the U.S.A.
It sounds like it has potential to upset the U.S.A-public.
The 9/11 thing is still being verified.
Oh no doubt. But this is some seriously nasty shit - 9/11 man.
NewsCorp and Fox News will now be defending themselves in front of a criminal investigation. Their own rhetoric of "innocent people don't get investigated" is now going to damn them. Their competition is not going to let this opportunity pass, people like Beck et al. are going to ride this for all its worth.
I thought that sorry excuse for a carnival barker got kicked off the air?
Possibly to go work at actual carnivals?
It's pretty explosive
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His kid, his sick kid no less.
The Sun needs to die next.
No, he and Fox parted ways because he wanted more control and more money. Now he's directly competing with Fox, much like Olbermann is now competing with MSNBC.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
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I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
The Sun (and to a lesser extent the Times) ignoring this story for years is a pretty chilling demonstration of why media monopolies are bad. If no one ever hears about what you're doing, no one can ever be outraged.
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Cameron looks like a right pussy now.
Wednesday will be legend.
I would pay to see this happen.
If nothing else, it'd make for an awesome Daily Show moment... which means we should email Jon's staff and get them on it now.
Yeah, this is exactly my thinking over the whole thing. If they can snuff out a story simply by ignoring it (as looked likely to happen with this before the Milly Dowler story broke), that shows they already have too much control. Outraged celebrities? That's perfect Sun fodder, yet somehow they didn't want to talk about it.. so yeah, hopefully in amongst all the political posturing and grabs for attention, an actual positive shakeup of our media might just, just maybe start to take place.
edit: Pretty sure this doesn't need anything else said. Just read and despair. Then vow, as an individual, as a human, never to support this most appalling, disgusting excuse for a newspaper.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8630545/Shareholders-sue-News-Corp-for-failing-to-take-early-action-on-phone-hacking-scandal.html
This is not some activist shareholders - this is serious pension funds doing it. Corporate governance, the full shebang.
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I wonder if this will spread to North America. NewsCorp is a big stable company that lots of pension funds probably heavily invest in here as well.
In fairness Cameron always looks like a pussy.
That's interesting.