Frank Cho also has the ability to correctly guess the bra size of any woman he meets. And I can confirm that since I've seen him at several conventions.
Frank Cho also has the ability to correctly guess the bra size of any woman he meets. And I can confirm that since I've seen him at several conventions.
Exactly! Fear Itself is kind of all I have to say about the illusion of death in comics. It’s my Houdini theory: that nobody went to see Houdini because they wanted to see Houdini die. People went to see Houdini because they wanted to see Houdini almost die. But they wanted to see him get out of it; they wanted to see the escape. Comics are escape fiction -- not escapist fiction, but escape fiction. We want to see how our ideal selves get out of messes that we find ourselves in, literally or metaphorically. It’s never about the death. The death is never real in comics. It’s always about the return, the escape. That’s why we read them. And that it’s been turned into a marketing ploy is a gag! Houdini always has the key under his tongue. That’s the joke.
I have to say I'm somewhat impressed with Fear Itself. It really feels like the Serpent is a real threat (unlike, say, the creature from Chaos War, which came out of fucking nowhere).
What I have to wonder, not having read Thor books for the better part of 20 years, is how dickish Odin seems to be. I remember the Walt Simonsen Odin - and today's Odin seems perfectly happy to anhilate Midgard and to tyrannize Asgard, wtf
I googled it. His debut was in Thor: Blood Oath, but yeah they had been building him up as a major threat within the Herc or Greek Gods side of things.
What Marvel writers have portrayed Odin as a dick in the past?
I am really pretty curious about this, especially since Odin was really grounded, honorable and even loving in the movie, so it seems odd for Marvel to make the character a colossal dick at this point in time.
Simonson's Odin wasn't a dick. The Lee/Kirby one usually was, the Thomas/Adams/Kirby/Buscema Odin definitely was, the DeFalco/Frenz Odin kind of went off and on (but it was a story point). Jurgens/JRJR, somewhat but not really.
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Heroes for Hire #11 was a red sky tie-in. Nothing at all to do with Fear Itself at this point. And it felt really decompressed, as if DnA have said screw it and moved on to Villains for Hire (which is now a mini).
Heroes for Hire #11 was a red sky tie-in. Nothing at all to do with Fear Itself at this point. And it felt really decompressed, as if DnA have said screw it and moved on to Villains for Hire (which is now a mini).
This really, really shat me. Especially the ending. It really is like they just kinda gave up. For a series that started out strong with Atlantean drug dealers and velociraptors fight clubs, it sure did just fizzle out.
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
The next page Odin basically kicks him out of Asgard, so it's pretty much a wash. The last two pages with Steve were much better I thought and the highlight of the issue.
I just flipped through FI #6, but it seemed really off for the second to last issue in terms of content. All the Worthy stuff kind of stops, Tony's plan is unveiled, and the Spider-Man stuff seemed superfluous. If this was issue #4 or 5 it would have made more sense, as right now it read very similar to Blackest Night, only one issue later.
Yeah, 1-3 were all pretty bland, 4 and 5 finally had some things going for them and got me pretty excited, and 6 just felt like padding until the final conflict.
All of the ground had either been covered before or was totally obvious.
The scenes between Odin and Thor were nice, though. And the final scene with Steve in Broxton, although he felt really... off this issue, I guess. The scene with Spider-Man was a total waste of time, though.
The whole Big Bad feeding on a negative emotion has been done, however differently, many times before. Hell,
JiM #627 just covered the fact that The Serpent is bogarting Nightmares deal.
Still, the scenes with Thor and Odin made getting the issue worth while and even with the next page rendering it moot, I loved Steve mouthing off to Odin.
All I really want now is to see Immonen draw The Mighty.
The scenes between Odin and Thor were nice, though. And the final scene with Steve in Broxton, although he felt really... off this issue, I guess. The scene with Spider-Man was a total waste of time, though.
I think I realized why I liked the last pages with Steve so much, in that he basically turns into USAgent for those scenes:
Wolverine seems to be a problem. They made a big deal about how the only way Odin could enhance IronMan was if he jumped in the Uru lava himself. Is Logan just gonna, like, dip his claws in?
So, I'm not sure if I understand what's going on with Odin. He's willing to forsake and burn all of Earth to save his son from the big bad... which is why he throws his son to Earth where the big bad is. That seems... to not add up?
I know that a lot of you guys who've read more Thor than I have (the first Thor I read was Thor: Disassembled; I've been a constant reader since the JMS relaunch, and Odin hasn't really appeared in the book while I've been reading it) are saying that Fraction is writing Odin the way Odin used to be written in the good ol' days, so I guess I can't be like "he's totally changing and ruining the character!", so I'll just say that he's a horrendous, despicable asshole with no redeeming qualities that I can see, and I basically feel angry every time he speaks. Like, there's characters you love to hate, where you might dislike someone, but there's still something enjoyable about reading them. I don't enjoy reading Fraction's Odin.
Odin didn't want Thor to go to Earth and face The Serpent because he knows he's going to die. It's why they had their fight in the beginning and it was the whole basis for the talk they had in FI #6. Odin doesn't want his son to die and is willing to destroy the Earth to prevent it and the eventual invasion or destruction of Asgard. Thor doesn't want that to happen, so he's going to fight The Serpent and Odin is just going to have to deal with it.
When he let Thor go originally he probably thought he would give up and return to Asgard and Odin would carry out his scorched Earth shit, but he underestimated his son's drive and honor. He didn't throw him down willingly and it hurt him to do so.
Odin is essentially a grieving father right now despite Thor not even being dead yet and humans still around.
I think Odin is really scared, too. His brother must creep him out something fierce.
He's helping Stark and the other heroes, as well as giving Thor his armor and Odinsword, so they have a fighting chance, but he's also prepared to destroy everything if they fail.
He comes off as a dick about it, but it's Odin's belief that he actually created man and that his son shouldn't have to die for his mistakes. (not killing The Serpent)
But he had to come to grips with that in FI #6 and let Thor go.
Odin let Thor go fight Thing and Hulk because as Matt Fraction said, "sometimes you have to let them touch the hot stove." It's in my notes from the Heroes Con panel. Fraction then noted that he got a round of applause for child abuse. Odin argued with him, warned him, and punished him. Finally, as a parent he just had to say, "Fine. You think you know better than me? Here's your hammer back. See what happens."
I like Carol with full leggings.
I don't see why Natalia has to show off even more cleavage than she already does, however.
@SatanIsMyMotor Odin made Tony take a leap of faith is why. At least that's the only thing I came away with after flipping through the issue at the store.
Has it been confirmed whether the "point" Fear Itself issues are being collected with the main series? If they are I'll just pick them up in singles.
The main Fear Itself Hardcover is currently solicited to have Fear Itself Prologue, 1-7, and Mighty Thor Issue 7 (The origin of the Serpent).
It's looking like the point issues will be collected respectively with Captain America, Mighty Thor, and Invincible Iron Man. But that could always change, although it likely won't.
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Creepily impressive
I bet he follows Kim Kardashian on Twitter unironically.
Ha!
Book slut.
Also, it really is time to read Casanova.
Telling people to start with Volume 3 is a bad idea.
What I have to wonder, not having read Thor books for the better part of 20 years, is how dickish Odin seems to be. I remember the Walt Simonsen Odin - and today's Odin seems perfectly happy to anhilate Midgard and to tyrannize Asgard, wtf
Out of nowhere being the Oeming Ares miniseries and Sacred goddamn Invasion.
But he was certainly a previous villain from no less than two books that set him up as a big uber villain
I am really pretty curious about this, especially since Odin was really grounded, honorable and even loving in the movie, so it seems odd for Marvel to make the character a colossal dick at this point in time.
It's pretty much his standard set-up
We had this discussion six months ago. I think the only one who didn't was JMS(?). Someone post-Ragnarok.
EDIT: Looks like I'm not the only one who feels this way...
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This really, really shat me. Especially the ending. It really is like they just kinda gave up. For a series that started out strong with Atlantean drug dealers and velociraptors fight clubs, it sure did just fizzle out.
It's even better with text.
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
I just flipped through FI #6, but it seemed really off for the second to last issue in terms of content. All the Worthy stuff kind of stops, Tony's plan is unveiled, and the Spider-Man stuff seemed superfluous. If this was issue #4 or 5 it would have made more sense, as right now it read very similar to Blackest Night, only one issue later.
All of the ground had either been covered before or was totally obvious.
The scenes between Odin and Thor were nice, though. And the final scene with Steve in Broxton, although he felt really... off this issue, I guess. The scene with Spider-Man was a total waste of time, though.
Wasn't that the plotline of the Darkseid storyline of Superman when he kills Turpin at the end?
Still, the scenes with Thor and Odin made getting the issue worth while and even with the next page rendering it moot, I loved Steve mouthing off to Odin.
All I really want now is to see Immonen draw The Mighty.
Norman Osborn Was Right
I think I realized why I liked the last pages with Steve so much, in that he basically turns into USAgent for those scenes:
I know that a lot of you guys who've read more Thor than I have (the first Thor I read was Thor: Disassembled; I've been a constant reader since the JMS relaunch, and Odin hasn't really appeared in the book while I've been reading it) are saying that Fraction is writing Odin the way Odin used to be written in the good ol' days, so I guess I can't be like "he's totally changing and ruining the character!", so I'll just say that he's a horrendous, despicable asshole with no redeeming qualities that I can see, and I basically feel angry every time he speaks. Like, there's characters you love to hate, where you might dislike someone, but there's still something enjoyable about reading them. I don't enjoy reading Fraction's Odin.
When he let Thor go originally he probably thought he would give up and return to Asgard and Odin would carry out his scorched Earth shit, but he underestimated his son's drive and honor. He didn't throw him down willingly and it hurt him to do so.
Odin is essentially a grieving father right now despite Thor not even being dead yet and humans still around.
I think Odin is really scared, too. His brother must creep him out something fierce.
He's helping Stark and the other heroes, as well as giving Thor his armor and Odinsword, so they have a fighting chance, but he's also prepared to destroy everything if they fail.
He comes off as a dick about it, but it's Odin's belief that he actually created man and that his son shouldn't have to die for his mistakes. (not killing The Serpent)
But he had to come to grips with that in FI #6 and let Thor go.
I like Carol with full leggings.
I don't see why Natalia has to show off even more cleavage than she already does, however.
The main Fear Itself Hardcover is currently solicited to have Fear Itself Prologue, 1-7, and Mighty Thor Issue 7 (The origin of the Serpent).
It's looking like the point issues will be collected respectively with Captain America, Mighty Thor, and Invincible Iron Man. But that could always change, although it likely won't.