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Moving across the country to one of those states I can't pronounce!

schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
edited September 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
Massachussex..err, Massashuset...uhh, MA. I've lived in Texas forever (which for me is 26 years), mostly in a suburb north of Dallas, and the last 4 working in Houston. Really at the space center, quite a ways away from downtown. Nothing personal against everyone's favorite novelty oversized state, but it's been a goal of mine to move somewhere else, and it sounds like my current job will be giving me the opportunity to move to our Boston office, which is in Bedford, MA (Not New Bedford). I'm single, and my only other wordly obligations are to my two cats.

I may be getting a little ahead of myself by posting this (perhaps jinxing myself?) as nothing has been carved into stone, but it sounds like this is likely to happen. It also sounds like the sooner I can move once asked, the better, which would put me making that move in November-January. Perhaps leaving a high of 80 or so degrees in Houston for what my imagination refuses to picture as anything less than the frozen northlands of A Song of Ice and Fire. It sounds like I can expect to be flown out there for a few days to see the area and find a place, and probably have most or all of the cost of cross-country movers covered, which is pretty cool and simplifies things.

So I guess my first, most pressing question, is where the heck should I live? Having never actually focused my eyes on that part of a US map before Monday I was surprised to see that, well, holy crap those states are wayyyyy north, and holy crap they're wayyyyy small. Like I said, I have lived in generic suburbia, and the Clear Lake area of Houston, which is...well, just as bad (basically apartments/town homes and businesses that support JSC. About 20 miles from downtown). I guess I'm not entirely sure exactly what I want just yet. It sounds like living in downtown Boston would be a pain in the ass compared to what I'm used to, especially if I want to keep my car, but I don't really want to live in a suburb again. I guess ideally a non-suburb with Boston easily accessible? Is that...possible (basically I want my cake and to eat it too)? Just to throw a dart at the map, do you think a place like Wellesley would be acceptable? I also noticed that southern New Hampshire is an option. I get the impression that'd be more economical, but violate my desire to be near Boston. Oh, and to throw in another twist my main hobby these days is flying airplanes, so proximity to a general aviation airport would be a plus. Although proximity is relative given MA's smallness compared to what I'm used to.

REALLY excited. I have a good friend who is getting his phd at MIT (because he has possibly made some better life choices than me!), though he can't offer much advice since he just lives in Cambridge with no car, so his situation is different.

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    RayzeRayze Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Mass-ah-chew-sets

    I live about 30 minutes away from Bedford and my fiance is from Bedford so we know the area. I would suggest Arlington. It's more city than suburb, the commute to Bedford is decent and it's easily accessible by the T to Boston. I would also suggest not living in southern New Hampshire. While it's more affordable, the commute sucks.


    Unfortunately, I know squat about aviation airports so I can't advise you there

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    Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    Mass-uh-chew-sits

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    VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    Hi! I live in Arlington! I work in Bedford! Been here for a few months! The previous post is true!

    It takes me about 20 minutes to get to work on a good day and 25 on a bad day. There's at least three different ways to get there, and they're about the same distance. Arlington is great because the whole town is centered around Massachusetts Ave, which has a frequent bus route that goes directly to the subway. Usually is about 30 to 45 minutes to get downtown using either public transportation or your car.

    Let me know if you have any questions!

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    RayzeRayze Registered User regular
    I can't even spell out the name of the state that I live in properly -_-

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    schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
    Haha, thanks for the feedback. I remember in like the 6th grade for whatever reason I had to say Connecticut in front of the class, and I said "Connect I Cut." I still catch hell about my pronunciation skills from my old friends (harbinger isn't har bing er?!?!). So let's avoid Connecticut!

    So related question, a cursory google is giving me some sticker shock with apartment prices. I know the cost of living is higher up there, but it looks like I've been spoiled by the cost of housing down here! I lived in a pretty meh 600-700 square foot apartment when I first moved to Houston for about 500 bucks a month (probably overpriced). Currently I live with a roommate in a pretty nice 1200 sq. ft. apartment for about 1175 month (with washer and dryer in it, dishwasher, etc.). In the same nice complex I could live in a big 800-900 square foot 1 bedroom for about 900.

    It's looking like maybe a reasonable 1 bedroom price in the area is gonna be about 1500 a month, does that sound right? Does anyone have an idea on how the cost of utilities compare? Here you typically have a central AC that you have to abuse in the summer. It looks like there (and again, I'm just haphazardly googling) oil/gas heat is more common?

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    schussschuss Registered User regular
    OK, you basically have two choices:
    1. live near work because it's convenient
    2. live in the city and commute out to work.

    As you're 26, I recommend #2, as you'll meet more people and have more fun. Based on geographics, I'd recommend cambridge/somerville and getting at least 1 roommate.

    Coming from Texas, understand this:
    1. It gets cold, really cold (to you, anyway)
    2. You will have to shovel
    3. It will be different and more expensive
    4. It will be cool.

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    VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    Apartment hints from what I've found:

    There are random apartment buildings scattered a block or two off Mass Ave owned by landlords who aren't immediately apparent. The company that owns a nice big apartment complex for CEOs may also own a few smaller buildings with a several tenants at a lower price. You should get the same good quality from the company when it comes to their end of the deal (repairs, requests, etc). Go to these big apartments and ask if they have any other places to live at a lower cost. Getting a roommate should cost be about 60% of the cost of paying for a 1-br, but the freedom is worth that 40% to me. Of course, it's 40% of $Texas so getting a roommate in Boston is much more fiscally responsible than getting a roommate where rent is cheaper.

    Don't pay for heat. Get it in the rent.
    Don't pay a broker's fee. It's half a month rent that you don't get back, and that's bullshit.
    Don't get cable (if you can survive without your bajillion channels). Instead, get an HD antenna to get the major networks in good HD quality.
    Do get a bicycle. You can get from downtown to Arlington to Beford on the Minuteman Bicycle trail. It's (mostly) a straight shot.

    GL HF.

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    schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
    Thanks for the continuing advice! I just learned that the AFB in bedford is also a civil airfield with clubs and planes available, which is comically convenient!
    I have lived with a roommate for several years and though we get along I am ready to eat some cost and live by myself again.
    As for no cable I am planning to try that out. streaming netflix and an hd tuner may very well be enough for me. You mentioned getting the heat in the rent, how much should I pay for that?

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    VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    It should be free, because it's included. Your rent shouldn't be higher than another place because of that. You want it because it might be zero for the summer and several HUNDRED during the winter. If you can't get heat included, try to get a place on the top floor OR a half-underground apartment like mine that stays at the same temperature regardless of the weather.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    You are unable to comprehend the frozen hell you are about to move to. Like, you think "oh, hey, I know what it's like to be cold..." You really don't.

    I strongly recommend you resist the urge to turn your heat up a bunch when you first get out there. It's really hard to go from an 80-degree apartment to a negative-40-degree outside; much easier if you're going from a 60-degree apartment. And, over time, it will get your body used to colder temperatures faster.

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    schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
    Hey I have seen snow AT LEAST 5 or 6 times in my life! :) probably should expand my winter wardrobe. It presently consists of my summer clothes with a slightly faster walking pace.

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    CreidhesCreidhes Registered User regular
    I agree completely with getting a place that includes heat in the rent. Many buildings in the Boston area are 100+ years old. We're talking $400+ per month in heating costs old.

    Also, just so you know...
    Bedford = Bed Fuhd
    Arlington = Ah lin tin

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    UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    Hey I have seen snow AT LEAST 5 or 6 times in my life! :) probably should expand my winter wardrobe. It presently consists of my summer clothes with a slightly faster walking pace.

    Gortex, fleece, wool sweaters/hats/scarves/gloves and some good boots will be your friends

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    VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    Boston is not that bad. There are worse places like northern Minnesota and upstate New York that have snow for half the year.

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    jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2011
    VeritasVR wrote:
    Boston is not that bad. There are worse places like northern Minnesota and upstate New York that have snow for half the year.

    Yeah, while not in Boston myself (Southern CT), I visit it pretty often. The period between the end of January to the middle of Feb. is the REALLY cold part in the city (that wind sure whips through the alleys). Get a hat. Gloves, etc. Aside from the middle of winter, Mass. has some pretty nice weather. Also, Bedford is right between Lexington and Concord so you have that whole start of the American Revolution thing going on. Some info on the airfield nearby: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanscom_Field

    EDIT: I've also been to Houston many times and man do I like Boston 100x more. I think you'll like it up there.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    VeritasVR wrote:
    Boston is not that bad. There are worse places like northern Minnesota and upstate New York that have snow for half the year.
    This is true, however, from the perspective of someone who has lived somewhere habitable to human beings for their entire life, Boston is going to be quite the system shock.

    You're basically going from a 2.5 on the "bad weather" scale to a 9. The fact that 10s exist doesn't really mitigate that.

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    jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    Thanatos wrote:
    VeritasVR wrote:
    Boston is not that bad. There are worse places like northern Minnesota and upstate New York that have snow for half the year.
    This is true, however, from the perspective of someone who has lived somewhere habitable to human beings for their entire life, Boston is going to be quite the system shock.

    You're basically going from a 2.5 on the "bad weather" scale to a 9. The fact that 10s exist doesn't really mitigate that.

    Valid point.

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    schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
    Calling houston habitable is a great kindness! I think we set the local record this year for consecutive 100+ degree days. 100+ degrees in dallas is par for the course, but oh god houston is humid! I have been miserable every summer of my life, being miserable in the winter will be a pleasant change!

    I am going to eat those words, aren't I?

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    VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Than is right about a potential climate change shock.

    Summers are awesome. I will say that.

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    schussschuss Registered User regular
    What kills you in Boston winters is the combo of ice covered sidewalks with ungodly amounts of wind (Boston is windier than Chicago) due to crappy city design. If you can find somewhere near the T, awesome, but with where you'll be working/likely living you probably won't get that.
    Boston is fun though, albeit very different from a lot of other places. People will tell you exactly what they think, straight off, without too much "courtesy". Some people think it's rude, but it can be refreshing. Also note that driving in Boston is about being as aggressive as possible, and the drivers aren't bad, they're just consistently overaggressive and aware of the minimal enforcement traffic transgressions suffer.
    Summers are rad, and it provides incredible access to educational resources and educated people. The people are fun, the mountains are a few hours away in NH or VT, and you have the atlantic ocean to play on.
    Housing-wise, try to get a temp place for a few weeks while you apartment hunt. It'll cut down on the stress and you'll be able to spend more time figuring out the types of areas places are. There are a metric fuckton of College Students, so unless you really enjoy 2-3AM screaming, stay out of/on the fringe of the major student housing areas.

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