Speed, my first read was pretty much all in one go. I started reading in May during the hiatus prior to the Flip flash.
Act One does not read well at all, even all at once. It's not terrible, but the nature of the beast makes it hard to get into the thick of things so you stop giving a shit about John and cakes and oh who the fuck cares. I guess it's an investment because there are investments here that pay off in gags in later acts. But I had to give it three tries or so before I got into Homestuck for reals. Same with Problem Sleuth, and I read PS AFTER Homestuck. Same insane bullshit that goes on for a while, but inane bullshit is pretty much the plot of PS so maybe I'm being too critical there.
But I think the troll teases still work. It's more like dangling string in your face rapidly as opposed to making a joke about how long it's taking to get to those characters.
I also disagree that pre-Act 4 is all about jokes and horseshit and Act 5 is suddenly all bidness. Plenty of plot once Act One and a bit of Two are out of the way.
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i really didn't like act 1
it took me to the end of it to actually like homestuck
You push one of the nearby buttons. It activates the upper right monitor. The view is locked on to a particular location on Earth at a particular date and time.
Whoever was in the lab appears to have recently calibrated this device.
I'm tempted to say it was John's Dad, though we'd be sure if he had left a note on the control panel saying
JOHN,
YOU'RE A REAL ECTOBIOLOGIST NOW.
I AM SO, SO PROUD OF YOU.
The onomatopoeia in Homestuck is so great.
I'll post each ghost imprint in spoilers.
So for those of you scoring at home, John's Grandma:
How did I just notice the name and symbol on the boat?
Grandpa Harley:
Okay, seriously, how does he know to have a small pair of "outrageously awesome" shades?
Dave's bro:
I went through the trouble of looking up how to spell "onomatopoeia", so I'm going to use it again, dammit.
Rose's mom:
Okay, we're done here right?
WRONG.
I like how Dave has crowhair from the moment of his birth. Well, creation. Paradoxing cloning. Whatever, you get the idea.
PORKHOLLOW NO
Meanwhile,
An old man has much to do before he returns to Earth, dies, gets stuffed by his adopted-yet-biological daughter-slash-grand-daughter, and stuck in front of a fireplace.
Taking priority at the moment is shipping two passengers long overdue for a reunion.
Before this I didn't know that the word "shipping" could mean "putting two fictional characters in a relationship". So, uh, thanks MSPA thread. I think.
Act 1, to me, is sort of like a tutorial level in a game. You need it, but I was also able to cover it pretty quickly when doing this because I know the concepts now.
EB: no, no, i mean the ghost stuff and paradoxes are one thing of course...
EB: it's something else.
EB: it's just...
EB: this is really weird... CG: WHAT'S SO WEIRD ABOUT IT.
EB: well, normally humans hatch...
EB: from like these slimy pods.
EB: then we wriggle out as a little pink larva. CG: OH REALLY.
CG: HUH, MAYBE WE HAVE MORE IN COMMON THAN I THOUGHT.
Remember, the pranking MASTER.
This is exactly why babies should not be allowed to dual-wield flintlock pistols.
EB: did you know nicolas cage was almost going to play superman one time? CG: OH MY THROBBING PHLEGM LOBE, WHO GIVES A BARFING FUCK ABOUT THAT.
Yeah, for reals.
Actually, I guess in the frog temple we get all available animal symbols? Also, spirographs.
Remember, everything before the 1950's was in black and white.
Eight days prior, the orphan girl was taken in by an aristocratic southern colonel and legendary humorist. He recovered the young lady from a crater where a bakery once stood, operated by the man's wife, a notable baked goods baroness.
So the Batterwhich is married to Sassacre?
I would need to sit down, if I weren't already. And, uh, if I hadn't read this before.
Oh, wait, this is why babies shouldn't be allowed to dual-wield flintlock pistols
Thirteen years later, the boy develops a taste for adventure. He and his guardian bid farewell. His sister is sad. She will be left all alone with the wicked pastry baroness. She can handle it, he tells her. He believes in her.
I think we covered this a few days ago, but yeah.
And our question from EOA3 is answered.
Okay, I think I got how this thing works now. I thought it closed immediately after accepting an object.
EB: who is jack noir?
This reminds me: die-hard Homestuck fans, probably still less annoying than die-hard Ayn Rand fans. Also, we get an immediate answer.
EB: oh man, i just had THE BEST idea, this is so perfect.
EB: a blonde mother and daughter together, this is totally perfect. CG: PERFECT FOR WHAT, FLEXING YOUR FORMIDABLE MENTAL HANDICAP LIKE A FUCKING HEAVYWEIGHT FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MINUTES?
CG: OH WAIT, LET ME CHECK, THE ANSWER IS YES.
EB: it is like that scene in con air, i will give her the bunny like i am nick cage fresh out of the slammer. CG: FUCK.
EB: i wish i had a filthy wifebeater on, oh well. CG: JUST...
CG: AUGH.
GC: D4V3 WH4TS 1T SM3LL L1K3 TG: what
GC: YOUR BLOOD
I assume she is trying to get Dave's (Earth) goat here because she could instantly tell Davesprite smelled like orange creamsicles. It probably kind of works, because I kind of think these attempts to get back at her are kinda weak.
TG: just him and me
TG: havin a see party
TG: like a couple of eagle eyed bros peepin shit up into the wee hours GC: D4V3
GC: C4N 1 COM3 TO YOUR S33 P4RTY?
TG: i guess but youll have to be careful not to stumble around bumping into all the gorgeous masterpieces hanging around everywhere
TG: god so beautiful to look at with my perfect eyesight GC: C4N 1 L1CK TH3 P41NT1NGS?
TG: yeah thats fine
AT: tHEN YOU SAID HE WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY NICE GUY, wHICH i THOUGHT WAS WEIRD, GG: is he not a nice guy?
AT: nOT, rEALLY,
Tavros is really kind of useless in this conversation but this is pretty funny.
GG: dream selves can die? AT: yEAH,
GG: i never knew that
GG: or even thought about it....
GG: i guess it makes sense though
Oh god dammit. I'm guessing someone really won the speculation lottery when EOA4 came out.
GC: 4NYW4Y 1 DONT KNOW WH3R3 YOUR BRO 1S
GC: 4S F4R 4S 1 C4N T3LL YOU N3V3R S33 H1M 4G41N B3TW33N NOW 4ND TH3 R1FT
I guess she, just, like, missed that part? I'll try to remember this when I get there.
GC: YOUR T34RS T4ST3 D3L1C1OUS
GC: K1ND OF L1K3
GC: L1K3 SOM3TH1NG YOU WOULDNT KNOW 4BOUT
GC: 4 TROLL D3L1C4CY C4LL3D COTTON C4NDY TG: we have cotton candy dumpass
GC: >8O
[ S] Descend.
So probably the most important flash so far in Homestuck, presumably until the next one. If you're big on the numbers, the end of the flash reminds you that 5/31/2010 was day 413 of Homestuck. So, 612 days later we will hopefully get EOA5. Only one thing still bothers me, in that I haven't figured out how Dream Jade can throw Dream John clear of the Moon while not being able to save herself. Oh well.
Let's get up to the start of Act 5. That seems like a good place to stop.
I always liked "No one can tell me our fate can't be repaired." Also, she really did jump out of the way of a burning tree, it was pretty sweet.
That turned out to be a pretty arduous journey in the end. (To get all the way there, I mean. Assuming it's the same castle where he finds his Dad dead, gets stabbed himself, etc.)
From a Homestuck thread long past, we killed time between updates by examining what our favorite panel was. Well:
You do not have a sword. You are quite sure it would never occur to you to carry a sword or resort to violence under any circumstance.
If Hussie really wanted to mess with us, he could've just been like, "So, yeah, Homestuck was really just the tale of John getting his birthday present. The end!" Fortunately...
Okay, if Scratch shenanigans do occur then I am pretty sure we are going to find out the business behind this whole "Jade's grandson" thing pretty soon.
Speed, my first read was pretty much all in one go. I started reading in May during the hiatus prior to the Flip flash.
Act One does not read well at all, even all at once. It's not terrible, but the nature of the beast makes it hard to get into the thick of things so you stop giving a shit about John and cakes and oh who the fuck cares. I guess it's an investment because there are investments here that pay off in gags in later acts. But I had to give it three tries or so before I got into Homestuck for reals. Same with Problem Sleuth, and I read PS AFTER Homestuck. Same insane bullshit that goes on for a while, but inane bullshit is pretty much the plot of PS so maybe I'm being too critical there.
But I think the troll teases still work. It's more like dangling string in your face rapidly as opposed to making a joke about how long it's taking to get to those characters.
I also disagree that pre-Act 4 is all about jokes and horseshit and Act 5 is suddenly all bidness. Plenty of plot once Act One and a bit of Two are out of the way.
well yeah
when people complain about the pacing problems in HS they are usually talking about act 5
I don't think anyone disagrees that act 1 starts off very slow
Dave has, however, lived months due to all the time jumping.
well
Davesprite has
Alpha Dave has only been around a few days
Kanaya mentions that Jade's frog-quest would take several week's worth of stable time loops if she wanted to finish before the Scratch, so it wouldn't be out of the question. Also there were thirteen Daves, for a while. Dude's been busy.
Dave has, however, lived months due to all the time jumping.
well
Davesprite has
Alpha Dave has only been around a few days
Kanaya mentions that Jade's frog-quest would take several week's worth of stable time loops if she wanted to finish before the Scratch, so it wouldn't be out of the question. Also there were thirteen Daves, for a while. Dude's been busy.
Yeah, and after all his stock market shenanigans, he's hardly unfamiliar with leaping back and forth across the timeline.
If you're big on the numbers, the end of the flash reminds you that 5/31/2010 was day 413 of Homestuck.
For those who were not caught up before Act 4 ended, the last flash was not actually added on May 31st. That page was, but it was a placeholder because Andrew wasn't done with the flash, yet. It seemed like it was a few days into June, maybe a week, before the flash actually went up.
Hussie said a while ago that it was supposed to represent how the trolls existed on the subconscious of humans, the same way Superman does. It's about 12 powerful young wizards that fuck everything up, and their 12 elder wizards that go on a quest to stop them. Maybe a reference to the trolls' Scratch?
Given how every other single thing Hussie's made has made some kinda cameo in homestuck, I'm surprised neither rose nor her mom have a copy of Wizardology sitting around somewhere
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Act One does not read well at all, even all at once. It's not terrible, but the nature of the beast makes it hard to get into the thick of things so you stop giving a shit about John and cakes and oh who the fuck cares. I guess it's an investment because there are investments here that pay off in gags in later acts. But I had to give it three tries or so before I got into Homestuck for reals. Same with Problem Sleuth, and I read PS AFTER Homestuck. Same insane bullshit that goes on for a while, but inane bullshit is pretty much the plot of PS so maybe I'm being too critical there.
But I think the troll teases still work. It's more like dangling string in your face rapidly as opposed to making a joke about how long it's taking to get to those characters.
I also disagree that pre-Act 4 is all about jokes and horseshit and Act 5 is suddenly all bidness. Plenty of plot once Act One and a bit of Two are out of the way.
it took me to the end of it to actually like homestuck
2-4 were golden
The onomatopoeia in Homestuck is so great.
I'll post each ghost imprint in spoilers.
So for those of you scoring at home, John's Grandma:
How did I just notice the name and symbol on the boat?
Okay, seriously, how does he know to have a small pair of "outrageously awesome" shades?
I went through the trouble of looking up how to spell "onomatopoeia", so I'm going to use it again, dammit.
Okay, we're done here right?
WRONG.
I like how Dave has crowhair from the moment of his birth. Well, creation. Paradoxing cloning. Whatever, you get the idea.
PORKHOLLOW NO
Meanwhile, Before this I didn't know that the word "shipping" could mean "putting two fictional characters in a relationship". So, uh, thanks MSPA thread. I think.
the eoa flash was pretty great, just thought you all should know
The text and the sound in the flash really set a mood that made me think "yeah, I'm gonna dig this"
one of a few dozen times ever in my life where I've been unable to stop laughing
Yea. Same here.
This is exactly why babies should not be allowed to dual-wield flintlock pistols.
Yeah, for reals.
Actually, I guess in the frog temple we get all available animal symbols? Also, spirographs.
Remember, everything before the 1950's was in black and white.
So the Batterwhich is married to Sassacre?
I would need to sit down, if I weren't already. And, uh, if I hadn't read this before.
Oh, wait, this is why babies shouldn't be allowed to dual-wield flintlock pistols
I think we covered this a few days ago, but yeah.
And our question from EOA3 is answered.
Okay, I think I got how this thing works now. I thought it closed immediately after accepting an object.
This reminds me: die-hard Homestuck fans, probably still less annoying than die-hard Ayn Rand fans. Also, we get an immediate answer.
And so: [ S] John: Reunite with your loving wife and daughter. I figure this was, more than anything else, a good way to get some comic relief in before the EOA.
Tavros is really kind of useless in this conversation but this is pretty funny.
Oh god dammit. I'm guessing someone really won the speculation lottery when EOA4 came out.
I guess she, just, like, missed that part? I'll try to remember this when I get there.
And on that bombshell, let's Descend.
So probably the most important flash so far in Homestuck, presumably until the next one. If you're big on the numbers, the end of the flash reminds you that 5/31/2010 was day 413 of Homestuck. So, 612 days later we will hopefully get EOA5. Only one thing still bothers me, in that I haven't figured out how Dream Jade can throw Dream John clear of the Moon while not being able to save herself. Oh well.
Let's get up to the start of Act 5. That seems like a good place to stop.
That turned out to be a pretty arduous journey in the end. (To get all the way there, I mean. Assuming it's the same castle where he finds his Dad dead, gets stabbed himself, etc.)
From a Homestuck thread long past, we killed time between updates by examining what our favorite panel was. Well:
If Hussie really wanted to mess with us, he could've just been like, "So, yeah, Homestuck was really just the tale of John getting his birthday present. The end!" Fortunately...
Okay, if Scratch shenanigans do occur then I am pretty sure we are going to find out the business behind this whole "Jade's grandson" thing pretty soon.
This is the saddest page in Homestuck.
I guess Jade never saw the bunny in its final form, otherwise she probably would've reacted to the suggestion to use Ahab's Crosshairs differently.
That probably would've been pretty bad if John had been sent 413 years into the future, eh?
Oh, right, that key.
There's some more stuff about The Ring, but I should probably stop here.
Up next: Hivebent! I think the beginning should go pretty quickly.
well yeah
when people complain about the pacing problems in HS they are usually talking about act 5
I don't think anyone disagrees that act 1 starts off very slow
http://www.audioentropy.com/
and yeah probably somewhere between 4 and 12 hours prior to that
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it seems like longer because even though time skips around a lot, very little time is actually left unaccounted for
you go through John's adventure pretty much moment for moment
http://www.audioentropy.com/
well
Davesprite has
Alpha Dave has only been around a few days
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Kanaya mentions that Jade's frog-quest would take several week's worth of stable time loops if she wanted to finish before the Scratch, so it wouldn't be out of the question. Also there were thirteen Daves, for a while. Dude's been busy.
Yeah, and after all his stock market shenanigans, he's hardly unfamiliar with leaping back and forth across the timeline.
Maybe it was Davesprite.
For those who were not caught up before Act 4 ended, the last flash was not actually added on May 31st. That page was, but it was a placeholder because Andrew wasn't done with the flash, yet. It seemed like it was a few days into June, maybe a week, before the flash actually went up.
Just FYI.
Alternate Timeline Doomed Daves can be from any point in the future
I wonder how the fandom will react if he hits 100 a few days before the 25th
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Also, re: complacency of the learned
Hussie said a while ago that it was supposed to represent how the trolls existed on the subconscious of humans, the same way Superman does. It's about 12 powerful young wizards that fuck everything up, and their 12 elder wizards that go on a quest to stop them. Maybe a reference to the trolls' Scratch?
http://www.audioentropy.com/
we are going to need more wands
http://www.audioentropy.com/
http://www.audioentropy.com/
certainly i did