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Flash is dead! Long live Flash!
DisruptedCapitalist
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Adobe announced yesterday that they won’t be making any more versions of Flash Player for mobile devices.
Seems like Steve Jobs attempt to destroy Flash have succeeded as far as Mobile devices are concerned. Adobe Evangelist and all around awesome guy Ben Forta made this crazy video last year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf2HD-ldD8M
This year he's saying that "Flash's job has always been to pick up where the browser left off, with the understanding that the line between them was a grey and moving one."
So far this announcement seems to be upsetting a lot of Flash/Flex developers. The primary concern, of course, is that after investing a lot of time on promoting Flash to their clients and now to adopt the HTML5/JQuery/PhoneGap quickly or lose the trust of their clients. Personally, I'm a ColdFusion developer and I've been shying away from Flash in the past year anyway, so it doesn't affect me to much (except I'm wondering if CF is next on the chopping block.)
How is this announcement affecting you? Are you a Flash or Flex developer? Are you a disciple at the altar of Jobs and are currently rejoicing at the fall of your once-great rival?
Seems like Steve Jobs attempt to destroy Flash have succeeded as far as Mobile devices are concerned. Adobe Evangelist and all around awesome guy Ben Forta made this crazy video last year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf2HD-ldD8MThis year he's saying that "Flash's job has always been to pick up where the browser left off, with the understanding that the line between them was a grey and moving one."
So far this announcement seems to be upsetting a lot of Flash/Flex developers. The primary concern, of course, is that after investing a lot of time on promoting Flash to their clients and now to adopt the HTML5/JQuery/PhoneGap quickly or lose the trust of their clients. Personally, I'm a ColdFusion developer and I've been shying away from Flash in the past year anyway, so it doesn't affect me to much (except I'm wondering if CF is next on the chopping block.)
How is this announcement affecting you? Are you a Flash or Flex developer? Are you a disciple at the altar of Jobs and are currently rejoicing at the fall of your once-great rival?
"Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
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Far more damaging than the announcement is the way it has been insta-spun by the tech press as "Death of Flash". Flash Player is still far more capable for delivering enterpirse solutions on the desktop due to not being tied to the version of the browser the enterprise is using, company still using IE6? Doesn't matter, Flash it. Similarly Flash player is still going to be big on consumer desktops because that's how peopel, watch you tube and play free games, on mobile devices that's not how people do it, they use an app - and Flash/Flex is still going to be there to produce games for mobiles due to Adobe's focus on AIR. So as a result flash/Flex is going to be sticking around for a good while yet.
Basically once we actually see some fully compliant HTML 5/CSS 3 browser's then we might see the death of the flash-plugin but that is still years away and I don't think we're going to see the death of the Flash Player for years unless Adobe drop the ball.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
But it's certainly not the first time Adobe really botched their marketing.
It could have been handled a bit better.
As a framework/language, flash has a future on mobile devices. It will never be as resource-friendly as native code, but it makes cross platform development a lot easier and for simple games and apps, why wouldn't you consider using AIR?
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Yes.
Hell, it's a poorly optimized beast on the desktop. It routinely turns my sleek, silent MacBook Pro into a furnace/leaf blower with a 13 minute battery. I'd never want something like that on my phone.
"If you're going to play tiddly winks, play it with man hole covers."
- John McCallum
What? The Flex SDK has been Open Source for at least a year.
EDIT: Aaah, wow, they are handing the project leadership over. Didn't see that coming.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html
This part here has the Flex community jumping ship.
It's currently unofficial, but it will probably be handed over to the Spoon Project.
http://www.spoon.as/
"If you're going to play tiddly winks, play it with man hole covers."
- John McCallum
Fixed.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
This better not affect Metalocalypse!
That's right--Jobs wanted to kill Archer.
Well, it's not just Jobs. With the (obvious) exception of the desktop version of Windows 8, both Windows Phone 8 and Windows Tablet 8 will be Flash-less, opting for the supposed plug-in free environment that HTML5 will produce. Considering Windows 8 tablets are supposed to be a combination of laptop productivity with smartphone interface, they could shift the tablet market from simple glorified smartphones into peoples main devices.
Tell us how you really feel. :P
Get back to us when Javascript RIAs run as fast as Flash Apps without sucking up 3 times as much CPU.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
Wait a second, are you sure you didn't mean the Quicktime plugin for Windows?
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
They do go to caveat it to say the witch isn't dead yet but I feel kind'a like the ewoks at the end of Jedi. We're dancing around fires and celebrating where I come from.
Nonsense. That would imply that Quicktime actually does something. Which is bullshit.
I lol'ed though.
I'm not just saying that: Metalocalypse pulls off things I can't even fathom. And that's not even the best example. Then there's Wakfu.
Holy fucking shit.
I tried to learn Flash in a class once. What a fucking nightmare.