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Plus Spider-Man slapped his pregnant wife across a room way more recently then Hank Pym hit Janet, and seeing as how Janet has powers while MJ doesn't, and wile Hank was completly crazy at the time while Peter wasn't, you'd think that Spidey's incident would be the one remarked on more.
Every reference I see to Hank Pym suggests that he's kind of lame. Is he kind of lame?
From what I've skimmed out of the Initiative, he seems to be pretty cool. He's basically just a guy who knows that he's so vanilla that all people remember about him is backhanding his wife a single time. Not being a genius scientist, or a founding Avenger, but a wifebeater. So he overcompensates to prove he's more than that. I think it's interesting at least.
He was also pretty cool in West Coast Avengers and Beyond where he was played as a superscientist, not a superhero. He'd carry around a bunch of random shrunken shit in his pouches and then whip it out whenever he needed it. He's also Keith Giffen's favorite superhero, so that's something.
Hank Pym was pretty awesome in Busiek/Perez's Avengers.
Especially in the Ultron Unlimited arc, where Ultron is still insisting that Pym is his father, Pym snaps after realizing that Ultron is the cause for all of the terrible things in his life and just beats the holy bejeezus out of him.
How could he not turn out to be an evil robot with an abusive father like Pym?
DC Question: Now that we have a multi-verse does this mean that there are multiple supermans, batmans, Green Arrows, etc running around? If so is there anything in place that keeps (for example) all the superman's from teaming up and just rolling over everything in their path? Or worse say a bunch of Darkseids?
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How could he not turn out to be an evil robot with an abusive father like Pym?
DC Question: Now that we have a multi-verse does this mean that there are multiple supermans, batmans, Green Arrows, etc running around? If so is there anything in place that keeps (for example) all the superman's from teaming up and just rolling over everything in their path? Or worse say a bunch of Darkseids?
The Monitors.
though they seem to be splintered themselves on exactly how to control that situation.
How could he not turn out to be an evil robot with an abusive father like Pym?
DC Question: Now that we have a multi-verse does this mean that there are multiple supermans, batmans, Green Arrows, etc running around? If so is there anything in place that keeps (for example) all the superman's from teaming up and just rolling over everything in their path? Or worse say a bunch of Darkseids?
I think thats what all the Monitors are doing, or trying to do, in Countdown. Plus, not all of the Supermans share a mentality. There could be a 'good' Darkseid somewhere.
How could he not turn out to be an evil robot with an abusive father like Pym?
DC Question: Now that we have a multi-verse does this mean that there are multiple supermans, batmans, Green Arrows, etc running around? If so is there anything in place that keeps (for example) all the superman's from teaming up and just rolling over everything in their path? Or worse say a bunch of Darkseids?
I think thats what all the Monitors are doing, or trying to do, in Countdown. Plus, not all of the Supermans share a mentality. There could be a 'good' Darkseid somewhere.
EDIT: Damn you Nogs!
I've been wondering about the New Gods regarding this. Do they exist in the actual universe, just on some faraway planet, or are they from some other dimension? They use those boom tubes to go back and forth, so it seems like it could be either. If they're just aliens, maybe their planets don't exist in alternative universes. Earth seems to be the only constant.
How could he not turn out to be an evil robot with an abusive father like Pym?
DC Question: Now that we have a multi-verse does this mean that there are multiple supermans, batmans, Green Arrows, etc running around? If so is there anything in place that keeps (for example) all the superman's from teaming up and just rolling over everything in their path? Or worse say a bunch of Darkseids?
The Monitors.
though they seem to be splintered themselves on exactly how to control that situation.
There is, was, and shall ever be, only one of each New God/Apokalips character.
In the same way that there is only one Source Wall, despite all universes connecting to it, the New God/Apokalips worlds are unique.
How could he not turn out to be an evil robot with an abusive father like Pym?
DC Question: Now that we have a multi-verse does this mean that there are multiple supermans, batmans, Green Arrows, etc running around? If so is there anything in place that keeps (for example) all the superman's from teaming up and just rolling over everything in their path? Or worse say a bunch of Darkseids?
The Monitors.
though they seem to be splintered themselves on exactly how to control that situation.
There is, was, and shall ever be, only one of each New God/Apokalips character.
In the same way that there is only one Source Wall, despite all universes connecting to it, the New God/Apokalips worlds are unique.
If they turn Olsen into one or something, I will be pissed.
Honestly if you want to blame shit on Pym, I think creating Ultron ranks a little higher on the douche-o-meter than slapping Jan once.
That said I find the character interesting, which is what makes him a good character. I dont have to like him as a person.
What about characters that suck, but also are completely unlikeable.
I think you missed my point
Oh no, I got your point. I was just referring to the rest of the Initiative Staff (with the exceotion of perhaps Justice, or whatever the hells his name is)
Honestly if you want to blame shit on Pym, I think creating Ultron ranks a little higher on the douche-o-meter than slapping Jan once.
That said I find the character interesting, which is what makes him a good character. I dont have to like him as a person.
What about characters that suck, but also are completely unlikeable.
I think you missed my point
Oh no, I got your point. I was just referring to the rest of the Initiative Staff (with the exceotion of perhaps Justice, or whatever the hells his name is)
War Machine isnt a stupid character either, although its not like he's gotten to do much so far. Being a corrupt asshole is kind of the point to the whole Gyrich character too.
I want to go buy my first set of singles this week with the start of the GL/Sinestro Corps War. Do new Comics show up on Wensdays in general? I seem to rememer people talking about Wensday as the magic day.
It's "Wednesday," and yeah, comics ship on Wednesdays most weeks. When there's a holiday that week, like Memorial Day or the Fourth of July, they tend to ship on Thursdays.
Does the Question's mask do anything for him besides hide his face?
Gives an aura of mystery, like Rorschach.
Are you implying the Question is based off Rorschach
other way around, Moore wanted to use Question but DC didnt want to let him use the Charlton characters so Rorschach is basically Question, Nite Owl is Blue Beetle, Manhattan is Captain Atom, etc...
The title of this thread sounds like something Bizarro Whippy would say.
ME NOT #1 WHIPPY
*cough*
So, uh, anyway. I read The Long Halloween for the first time a little while ago.
I still don't understand the thing with Falcone's son. Did he fake his own death, and luck out because the "real" Holiday didn't kill anybody that time? Or did Harvey or Gilda actually try to kill him and fail?
One also wonders why he claimed to be Holiday; I guess he just wanted attention.
The part at the end with Gilda was kind of depressing.
Can somone recomend me a good internet subscription service? I wanna keep up to date on my Green Lantern books, and my college town has a shitty comic book store.
So I missed out on the whole America's Best Comics thing, excepting League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. What should I read, and in what order?
Top Ten is probably the best thing in the line (bar LoEG). Tom Strong is nice, refreshingly optimistic super-hero stuff, and Promethea is a beautifully illustrated lecture on magic with occasional bits of story.
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From what I've skimmed out of the Initiative, he seems to be pretty cool. He's basically just a guy who knows that he's so vanilla that all people remember about him is backhanding his wife a single time. Not being a genius scientist, or a founding Avenger, but a wifebeater. So he overcompensates to prove he's more than that. I think it's interesting at least.
He was also pretty cool in West Coast Avengers and Beyond where he was played as a superscientist, not a superhero. He'd carry around a bunch of random shrunken shit in his pouches and then whip it out whenever he needed it. He's also Keith Giffen's favorite superhero, so that's something.
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Especially in the Ultron Unlimited arc, where Ultron is still insisting that Pym is his father, Pym snaps after realizing that Ultron is the cause for all of the terrible things in his life and just beats the holy bejeezus out of him.
DC Question: Now that we have a multi-verse does this mean that there are multiple supermans, batmans, Green Arrows, etc running around? If so is there anything in place that keeps (for example) all the superman's from teaming up and just rolling over everything in their path? Or worse say a bunch of Darkseids?
The Monitors.
though they seem to be splintered themselves on exactly how to control that situation.
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I think thats what all the Monitors are doing, or trying to do, in Countdown. Plus, not all of the Supermans share a mentality. There could be a 'good' Darkseid somewhere.
EDIT: Damn you Nogs!
I've been wondering about the New Gods regarding this. Do they exist in the actual universe, just on some faraway planet, or are they from some other dimension? They use those boom tubes to go back and forth, so it seems like it could be either. If they're just aliens, maybe their planets don't exist in alternative universes. Earth seems to be the only constant.
There is, was, and shall ever be, only one of each New God/Apokalips character.
In the same way that there is only one Source Wall, despite all universes connecting to it, the New God/Apokalips worlds are unique.
That said I find the character interesting, which is what makes him a good character. I dont have to like him as a person.
I think you missed my point
How many people do you think Ultron has killed/caused the death of?
I always liked that issue with the Ultron that was actually a good guy.
My favorite Ultron story is the Santron issue from one of the Marvel Christmas Specials.
But yeah, he killed an entire island's worth of people, didn't he?
Oh no, I got your point. I was just referring to the rest of the Initiative Staff (with the exceotion of perhaps Justice, or whatever the hells his name is)
War Machine isnt a stupid character either, although its not like he's gotten to do much so far. Being a corrupt asshole is kind of the point to the whole Gyrich character too.
I want to go buy my first set of singles this week with the start of the GL/Sinestro Corps War. Do new Comics show up on Wensdays in general? I seem to rememer people talking about Wensday as the magic day.
On the page where
Gives an aura of mystery, like Rorschach.
Are you implying the Question is based off Rorschach
ME NOT #1 WHIPPY
*cough*
So, uh, anyway. I read The Long Halloween for the first time a little while ago.
One also wonders why he claimed to be Holiday; I guess he just wanted attention.
The part at the end with Gilda was kind of depressing.
Top Ten is pretty awesome.
Except Beyond the Farthest Precinct, which sucked balls.
The Smax spinoff of Top Ten was, however, incredibly awesome.
Top Ten is probably the best thing in the line (bar LoEG). Tom Strong is nice, refreshingly optimistic super-hero stuff, and Promethea is a beautifully illustrated lecture on magic with occasional bits of story.
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Is Cooke off The Spirit, or was #7 just a filler issue?
...because it sucked. A lot.
It was okay for a change, but not as good as Cooke's stuff. I hope Cooke isn't gone. After all, it was his idea to tell new Spirit stories.
Why isn't Karl Kerschl drawing more stuff?