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  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Did the first two new dungeons last night. Murozond as a ret paladin is hilarious.

    Also, I seem to be pulling aggro like a mofo in 5 mans, even when I salv myself. Maybe I'm just really overgearing the tanks, but as soon as I pop wings (with both Zealotry and GotAK already active) omen starts blaring at me. And no, I don't have RF up.

    And apparently, Illidan in WOE says something different if you show up with a pair of Warglaives (kinda like how Shade of Aran reacts if you pull him with somebody who has Atiesh in the raid).

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  • BuddiesBuddies Registered User regular
    Nobody wrote:
    Did the first two new dungeons last night. Murozond as a ret paladin is hilarious.

    Also, I seem to be pulling aggro like a mofo in 5 mans, even when I salv myself. Maybe I'm just really overgearing the tanks, but as soon as I pop wings (with both Zealotry and GotAK already active) omen starts blaring at me. And no, I don't have RF up.

    And apparently, Illidan in WOE says something different if you show up with a pair of Warglaives (kinda like how Shade of Aran reacts if you pull him with somebody who has Atiesh in the raid).

    Ooohhh, that's pretty cool.

    Jumped on my 5man geared Priest last night. Apparently I had enough PvP gear and other random 378s to cheat the iLvL for LFR, and of course I did so. Smite healed the shit out of that Raid, lol. Although they capped how much Smite can hit/heal for which I think is fucked up. Instead of the juicy 40-50k smite heals during Dark Phase on Zon'ozz, it was capped at like 22-28k. SAD BEAR

    I also got dragged into another teams 10 man group for Dragon Soul. We did pretty good, 3/8. DPS was JUUUUUST enough to kill the 2 Forgotten Ones right at their enrages.

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Zython wrote:
    So yeah, Madness is pretty intense. I was wondering if anyone had tips on how to do the fight. We tried Y-N-K-A pattern, but we were murdered by the elementium bolt on Kalecgos's platform.

    Also, I heard a rumor that 10 man madness is overtuned right now? Anyone know anything about that? Would partially explain why I'm hemorrhaging mana (the other part being moving to a haste build).

    I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the damage on Blackthorn and Madness tuned down a bit for 10M. We gave it a few shots last night two tanking it, going Y-N-K-A, and always wiping on K. However we seemed to finally be able to clear the elementium bolt on Kaelcgos' platform using spirit link totem on the last few attempts but die to Cataclysm enrage because we kept losing a DPS to the internet boss.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    tarnok wrote:
    So I just noticed that there are cloth dps boots but not cloth healing boots in the new dungeons. :/ I suppose the extra int is worth the upgrade from 359, but that hit rating is going to annoy me.

    Just save your valor, and get some of these: http://www.wowhead.com/item=77177

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  • ParagonParagon Registered User regular
    I think I saw somewhere that Nozdormu plat should go last. Elementium bolt is kind of crazy. I haven't raided yet (working on my DK up to 85), but I think that's the guy that slows down the bolt, yes?

    I scoured YouTube prior to 4.3 for strats on all bosses...but I don't quite remember the order that was listed in that video.

  • RakeethRakeeth Registered User regular
    Paragon wrote:
    I think I saw somewhere that Nozdormu plat should go last. Elementium bolt is kind of crazy. I haven't raided yet (working on my DK up to 85), but I think that's the guy that slows down the bolt, yes?

    I scoured YouTube prior to 4.3 for strats on all bosses...but I don't quite remember the order that was listed in that video.

    When Nozdormu is gone, the bolt lands nearly instaneously after its nameplate comes. In the 10m I'm in, its survivable by running as far away from the landing spot as possible tjen poppimg a cooldown. It helps alot if your raid can kill corruption before bolt spawns.


  • sumwarsumwar Registered User regular
    I try one normal heroic and fail at ilvl 336. I'm going back to pvping until I can get ilvl 353 preferably and do 4.3 dungeons with well geared people lol.

  • belligerentbelligerent Registered User regular
    Rakeeth wrote:
    Paragon wrote:
    I think I saw somewhere that Nozdormu plat should go last. Elementium bolt is kind of crazy. I haven't raided yet (working on my DK up to 85), but I think that's the guy that slows down the bolt, yes?

    I scoured YouTube prior to 4.3 for strats on all bosses...but I don't quite remember the order that was listed in that video.

    When Nozdormu is gone, the bolt lands nearly instaneously after its nameplate comes. In the 10m I'm in, its survivable by running as far away from the landing spot as possible tjen poppimg a cooldown. It helps alot if your raid can kill corruption before bolt spawns.


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  • thenshewaslikethenshewaslike Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    We used 3 healers and 2 tanks in 10 man, going A-Y-N-K. I'm a feral druid spec'd to do a lot of DPS, so we had more than other two tanking combinations can have, but on the other side, we also had one of our usual DPS on his tanking alt and brought a rather undergeared DPS friend because our usual other tank had his computer blow up.

    I don't think it's overtuned at all. While we did do it on the PTR, we got it down without too much issue there with the exact same set up. Two of the people had better gear on the PTR than they do on live, and all of us had gotten some upgrades, but we still essentially one shot it on live. The first time, he bugged out, so I'm not counting that.

    I'm not a healer, but make sure people aren't forgetting to use their Dream CD (don't let them forget that they can use it again in P2), that they are moving away from the bolt, and that people are spreading out when the big tentacle is up so that multiple people don't get hit by crush.

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  • Jay BizzleJay Bizzle Registered User regular
    Let me tell you about the time I punched Deathwing in the face...

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  • IndieGirlIndieGirl Registered User regular
    sumwar wrote:
    I try one normal heroic and fail at ilvl 336. I'm going back to pvping until I can get ilvl 353 preferably and do 4.3 dungeons with well geared people lol.

    Zulroics are going to be the new normal heroics if they aren't already.

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  • SumanaiSumanai muh PTRegistered User regular
    Nobody wrote:
    And apparently, Illidan in WOE says something different if you show up with a pair of Warglaives (kinda like how Shade of Aran reacts if you pull him with somebody who has Atiesh in the raid).

    Illidan Stormrage says: Curious weapons you wield... such power.
    Illidan Stormrage says: You seem prepared.

    I just love these details by Blizzard!

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Emporium wrote:
    Javen wrote:
    I love when the dungeon journal just flat out lies about mechanics. Helps a whole lot.

    I also enjoy the UI bug where I can't actually open any of that "useful" information (yes I know reloading the UI or clicking on the map bypasses it usually, still a shitty bug imo).
    Ugh, that annoys the piss out of me.
    Paragon wrote:
    Paragon wrote:
    Oh god, the Wrath leveling is so much more enjoyable now.

    Not only do you require much less experience, but they fixed a bunch of quests that I've done so far.

    Tons of quests that used to take too long (saving people with gryphons in Dragonblight, collecting stag meat, etc, in Grizzly Hills...) have been fixed.

    100% DROP BEAR ASSES YOU GUYS! BEST PATCH EVER

    They removed dazing from the horse vehicle escort from Silverbrook, too. So good. So many quality of life changes.
    Too bad no one at Blizzard thought this shit was worth fixing 3 years ago when WotLK was new.

    It's even more bad that no one at Blizzard slapped the fucking shit out of the goose who's making bear ass mobs still not drop their payload 100% of the time. It's like the WoW team as a whole has a learning disability.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Speaking of QoL changes that Blizzard always takes too long to figure out, the cast time on transmute Truegold was dropped to like one second. I think they did the same thing with the various Dreamcloth recipes, but I won't know for sure until Sunday. If Blizzard has decided now that it's not interesting or fun to stand there for 5-8 seconds rubbing your hands together, why did they feel differently a year ago?

    Side note: Dream of Destruction now takes only 4 chaos orbs instead of 5, making it one of the cheapest ways to make Dreamcloth now. At least if orbs on your AH are going for around 40 gold like they were when I checked on mine.


    Also, I know the answer to all my questions is: janitor.

  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    Sumanai wrote:
    Nobody wrote:
    And apparently, Illidan in WOE says something different if you show up with a pair of Warglaives (kinda like how Shade of Aran reacts if you pull him with somebody who has Atiesh in the raid).

    Illidan Stormrage says: Curious weapons you wield... such power.
    Illidan Stormrage says: You seem prepared.

    I just love these details by Blizzard!

    As somebody who was in a guild in TBC named Not Prepared I got a kick out of that.

  • belligerentbelligerent Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    IndieGirl wrote:
    sumwar wrote:
    I try one normal heroic and fail at ilvl 336. I'm going back to pvping until I can get ilvl 353 preferably and do 4.3 dungeons with well geared people lol.

    Zulroics are going to be the new normal heroics if they aren't already.

    also, the blue pvp items are level 377. I think the raw primary stats on those are now enough to override a couple slots in normal heroics.

    by blue, I mean crafted.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    forty wrote:
    Emporium wrote:
    Javen wrote:
    I love when the dungeon journal just flat out lies about mechanics. Helps a whole lot.

    I also enjoy the UI bug where I can't actually open any of that "useful" information (yes I know reloading the UI or clicking on the map bypasses it usually, still a shitty bug imo).
    Ugh, that annoys the piss out of me.
    Paragon wrote:
    Paragon wrote:
    Oh god, the Wrath leveling is so much more enjoyable now.

    Not only do you require much less experience, but they fixed a bunch of quests that I've done so far.

    Tons of quests that used to take too long (saving people with gryphons in Dragonblight, collecting stag meat, etc, in Grizzly Hills...) have been fixed.

    100% DROP BEAR ASSES YOU GUYS! BEST PATCH EVER

    They removed dazing from the horse vehicle escort from Silverbrook, too. So good. So many quality of life changes.
    Too bad no one at Blizzard thought this shit was worth fixing 3 years ago when WotLK was new.

    It's even more bad that no one at Blizzard slapped the fucking shit out of the goose who's making bear ass mobs still not drop their payload 100% of the time. It's like the WoW team as a whole has a learning disability.

    I have never understood blizzard's attachment to the whole random chance quest drop thing. Like, if you want me to have to kill 50 bears, fine; just make each bear drop 1-3 things and the quest require 100 things. Not give each bear a 10% chance to drop a thing and require five.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    sumwar wrote:
    I try one normal heroic and fail at ilvl 336. I'm going back to pvping until I can get ilvl 353 preferably and do 4.3 dungeons with well geared people lol.

    Please don't be that person. Why did you "fail"? You shouldn't have issues at that iLvL in a normal Heroic.

  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    Jay Bizzle wrote:
    Let me tell you about the time I punched Deathwing in the face...

    :^:

  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Did you guys hear about the top guilds exploiting the LFR system to outfit everyone in their group with full Tier 12? I wonder if Blizz will have the balls to ban the people who did it or if they'll just take the gear back.

  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Bashiok wrote:
    If you are getting loot off of a boss twice then it is an exploit. This has always been the case in World of Warcraft, and we expect players to know better.

    We’re in the process of implementing a hotfix to fix the exploit, and are deciding what steps we'll be taking for the gear that was already obtained.

    I wonder if that was the hotfix that caused the server restarts an hour or two ago.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    If you had 25 organized people you could do pretty well without exploiting though, just by being smart about who got loot when.

    If you were willing to run LFR a dozen times or more in a week, you could wait to give people tier gear (for example) until something else they wanted also dropped from a particular boss.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Opty wrote:
    Did you guys hear about the top guilds exploiting the LFR system to outfit everyone in their group with full Tier 12? I wonder if Blizz will have the balls to ban the people who did it or if they'll just take the gear back.

    What were they doing exactly?

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Naphtali wrote:
    Opty wrote:
    Did you guys hear about the top guilds exploiting the LFR system to outfit everyone in their group with full Tier 12? I wonder if Blizz will have the balls to ban the people who did it or if they'll just take the gear back.

    What were they doing exactly?

    Sounds like they found a way to get more loot from LFR per week than is intended, or the cap of X items per boss per week wasn't working.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote:
    Opty wrote:
    Did you guys hear about the top guilds exploiting the LFR system to outfit everyone in their group with full Tier 12? I wonder if Blizz will have the balls to ban the people who did it or if they'll just take the gear back.

    What were they doing exactly?

    If I had to guess, I'm betting the items were still tradeable even if a person wasn't allowed to roll on it.

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  • JohnnyToxxicJohnnyToxxic Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote:
    Naphtali wrote:
    Opty wrote:
    Did you guys hear about the top guilds exploiting the LFR system to outfit everyone in their group with full Tier 12? I wonder if Blizz will have the balls to ban the people who did it or if they'll just take the gear back.

    What were they doing exactly?

    If I had to guess, I'm betting the items were still tradeable even if a person wasn't allowed to roll on it.

    My question would be: if this is the case why are they shooting their mouths off about it?

    Second question: how does someone even think about trying to game the system in this way?



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    Seriously though some people need a RL punching in the face.

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  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    Dac wrote:
    Actually got to raid the instance tonight.

    One-shotted first boss. Was cool.

    Then spent an hour and a half wiping on zon'ozz. The healers just could NOT keep up with the tank's damage at 6 stacks of Focused Anger.

    Wow, im very fortunate that the groups I found one shotted the first three bosses, and only took two tries on the fourth boss. That and got my T13.25 gloves. :D

    But I checked out the VP vendor and he has even better gloves. Not sure if it would help me a whole lot though.

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  • belligerentbelligerent Registered User regular
    Um, no. This is an exploit. It's supposed to be that you can only recieve loot from a boss the first time you kill it each reset.

    This is what they were doing:
    Also the looking for raid system is being exploited by all the top guilds at the moment. Originally it was intended that you could only loot each boss once per week however if you run the raid with 24 people that 'cannot' loot due to having previously looted and one *new* guy that can loot all the bosses he can simply pass on the loot whilst the other raid members port out and back in allowing them to loot the corpse of the boss. So you simply rotate the 25th member with someone that can loot all the bosses each run.

  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Um, no. This is an exploit. It's supposed to be that you can only recieve loot from a boss the first time you kill it each reset.

    This is what they were doing:
    Also the looking for raid system is being exploited by all the top guilds at the moment. Originally it was intended that you could only loot each boss once per week however if you run the raid with 24 people that 'cannot' loot due to having previously looted and one *new* guy that can loot all the bosses he can simply pass on the loot whilst the other raid members port out and back in allowing them to loot the corpse of the boss. So you simply rotate the 25th member with someone that can loot all the bosses each run.

    Oh weird. So that's probably a coding issue then, rather than a "we forgot to test for this" issue...

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    Really though I think they need to change the system. Why let us queue if we can't even get the looooot!? Or, impose a roll penalty, like 10 points every consecutive boss kill. Something to make it worth my time to go back after I cleared it for the week once.

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    It's a relatively quick way to get VP the second time, especially if you fish for a 3/8 queue.

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  • EmporiumEmporium Registered User regular
    Topia wrote:
    Really though I think they need to change the system. Why let us queue if we can't even get the looooot!? Or, impose a roll penalty, like 10 points every consecutive boss kill. Something to make it worth my time to go back after I cleared it for the week once.

    Well, you can still get VP for clearing the place even if you aren't eligible for loot. Not a very practical way to get VP I know, but I could see it being a good way to break up the monotony of the heroics we've done way too many times a few weeks into the VP grind.

  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    I guess the idea is everyone who's there is sticking around to try for loot from the later boss(es), and if you've full-cleared the place they don't expect you to want to run LFR for the rest of the week.

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  • RakeethRakeeth Registered User regular

    on a phone?

    Yep

    Um, no. This is an exploit. It's supposed to be that you can only recieve loot from a boss the first time you kill it each reset.

    This is what they were doing:
    Also the looking for raid system is being exploited by all the top guilds at the moment. Originally it was intended that you could only loot each boss once per week however if you run the raid with 24 people that 'cannot' loot due to having previously looted and one *new* guy that can loot all the bosses he can simply pass on the loot whilst the other raid members port out and back in allowing them to loot the corpse of the boss. So you simply rotate the 25th member with someone that can loot all the bosses each run.

    There was a limit on how many ppl you can q up when I tried lfr on Tues. How do they get around that? Q with a few different groups at same time until it syncs?

    If so, it's so obviously an exploit that they need bannings.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Topia wrote:
    Really though I think they need to change the system. Why let us queue if we can't even get the looooot!?
    Two main reasons:

    1. So if you have a fail group (or just have to leave early for some reason) and only kill, say, the first two bosses, you can go back and try again from the start in hopes of getting to kill the last two bosses.

    2. A big point about the RF raids is that they wanted no lockout mechanic so that people can raid with their friends when they have time or on their own if they want and not have to deal with all the headaches of normal raid lockout foolishness.

    Edit: Oh, and others have mentioned, getting VPs for a second clear.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Esh wrote:
    sumwar wrote:
    I try one normal heroic and fail at ilvl 336. I'm going back to pvping until I can get ilvl 353 preferably and do 4.3 dungeons with well geared people lol.

    Please don't be that person. Why did you "fail"? You shouldn't have issues at that iLvL in a normal Heroic.
    It's possible that he got a shit group like what I described in my Grim Batol run on page 1.

    That's just speculation though. Maybe sumwar sucks too!

  • thenshewaslikethenshewaslike Registered User regular
    I did a couple old heroics earlier. A lot of people seem to have forgotten the mechanics of the ones that shipped at launch, if they ever knew them in the first place. I did a Throne of the Tides where two of the DPS tried to kill the adds you have to kite on the last boss. There were like eight or nine of them out by the time we transitioned.

  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote:
    Naphtali wrote:
    Opty wrote:
    Did you guys hear about the top guilds exploiting the LFR system to outfit everyone in their group with full Tier 12? I wonder if Blizz will have the balls to ban the people who did it or if they'll just take the gear back.

    What were they doing exactly?

    If I had to guess, I'm betting the items were still tradeable even if a person wasn't allowed to roll on it.

    I can confirm that. The token I got was tradeable.

  • NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    forty wrote:
    Esh wrote:
    sumwar wrote:
    I try one normal heroic and fail at ilvl 336. I'm going back to pvping until I can get ilvl 353 preferably and do 4.3 dungeons with well geared people lol.

    Please don't be that person. Why did you "fail"? You shouldn't have issues at that iLvL in a normal Heroic.
    It's possible that he got a shit group like what I described in my Grim Batol run on page 1.

    That's just speculation though. Maybe sumwar sucks too!

    I had two ZGs in a row last night where the tank thought he was supposed to stand in the spray from Venoxis. Not much you can do there to keep the group going at that point.

  • BuddiesBuddies Registered User regular
    End Time on my Priest was pretty damn hard. I didn't think Murozond was as hard or frantic as he was.

    Of course, I had idiots playing with me as DPS. Pulling 10-12k DPS, on a fight with permanent cooldowns.

    BRB just gonna auto attack this boss for 5 minutes straight.

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