How can I put this? I worked for a company… that was bought by another huge company… which turned it into the largest of companies… yes. Anyway, I worked in the localisation QA offices of the above in Dublin, Ireland. We had to test stupid-big games on every goddamn platform there was with schedules that were, no joke, measured in fucking minutes. Speed was our metric for success, and if we couldn’t keep time with the schedules, it was our ass.
This meant there were no time for test scripts, test cases or any of that stuff that makes QA slightly less than impossible. It made us fucking crazy. On uh, a ROBOT GAME SEQUEL… I had the indignity of having to call my Project Manager while she was at a goddamn funeral.
A FUNERAL.
I look back on it now and all I can think is that the job fucked my brain that far southward that I AND SHE thought it was just the nature of the business that calling someone at a funeral was AN OKAY THING TO DO.
FUCK games QA man, fuck it right in its Cthulhu-esque face.
There is only one way to describe it: profoundly uncivilised.
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I can't tell you how many years I've had this cartoon floating in the back of my head. I've asked SO MANY people if they remember it, but no one could come up with anything helpful. I was always hung on "Lonestar" and could never find anything on it.
I do not understand the art choice in the orange noses. Like... its especially bad on the villian. Last time I checked, only drunks and santa really have oddly colored noses compared to the rest of their skin tone...
I don't get it. And this specific entry is the one that takes me over the edge.
I do not understand the art choice in the orange noses. Like... its especially bad on the villian. Last time I checked, only drunks and santa really have oddly colored noses compared to the rest of their skin tone...
I don't get it. And this specific entry is the one that takes me over the edge.
I'm not a doctor, and I don't know how faces work, but people's noses are different colours than their faces IRL all the time. And it's really more of a salmon colour in this one, which is really just pink under the odd washed out pallet used here (the villain's face is totally Games Workshop's Bleached Bone colour). Or maybe it's every one, I hadn't looked that close before. So yeah, pink noses. Not that weird.
I can't tell you how many years I've had this cartoon floating in the back of my head. I've asked SO MANY people if they remember it, but no one could come up with anything helpful. I was always hung on "Lonestar" and could never find anything on it.
You've made me a very happy boy.
I've never heard of this cartoon, so I googled. Turns out Hulu has all the episodes streaming free right now, so I can sate my curiosity.
What a wondrous age we live in.
Edit: I'm only like 3 minutes in to the first episode and already this thing is so trippy. And BraveStarr is some kind of native American analog, with powers of "hawk, puma and bear"? Stay classy, 1980's.
Edit edit: I take it back. His inexplicable animal powers aside, there doesn't seem to be anything culturally offensive in Bravestarr (well, ok, that name is pushing it, too), and it's nice to see a non-white hero in cartoons for once. Also, for badly animated 80s tripe, this show isn't half bad. Maybe I'm just overly amused by the fact that the first episode of a space western is an intergalactic battle of the bands, and the villain's evil plan revolves around the use of a wicked guitar.
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I do not understand the art choice in the orange noses. Like... its especially bad on the villian. Last time I checked, only drunks and santa really have oddly colored noses compared to the rest of their skin tone...
I don't want to speak for Kurtz, but I'm fairly, (like, 45%) sure that he's not trying to draw photorealistic characters.
I mean Scott, jump in here and tell me if I'm being a douchebag, but it seems to me that any realism based criticisms of what is manifestly a fucking cartoon can be dismissed out of hand.
I do not understand the art choice in the orange noses. Like... its especially bad on the villian. Last time I checked, only drunks and santa really have oddly colored noses compared to the rest of their skin tone...
I don't want to speak for Kurtz, but I'm fairly, (like, 45%) sure that he's not trying to draw photorealistic characters.
I mean Scott, jump in here and tell me if I'm being a douchebag, but it seems to me that any realism based criticisms of what is manifestly a fucking cartoon can be dismissed out of hand.
Again, I Am Not The Artist.
There is a difference between stylized and stupid looking.
I do not understand the art choice in the orange noses. Like... its especially bad on the villian. Last time I checked, only drunks and santa really have oddly colored noses compared to the rest of their skin tone...
I don't want to speak for Kurtz, but I'm fairly, (like, 45%) sure that he's not trying to draw photorealistic characters.
I mean Scott, jump in here and tell me if I'm being a douchebag, but it seems to me that any realism based criticisms of what is manifestly a fucking cartoon can be dismissed out of hand.
Again, I Am Not The Artist.
There is a difference between stylized and stupid looking.
I was going to put it more politely, but yeah, pretty much. A lot of people seem to find Trenches' style hard on the eyes.
"Eyes of the Hawk, Ears of the Wolf, Strength of the Bear, Speed of the Puma!" With Deputy Fuzz as his sidekick. The villain had a sidekick named Scuzz. And the horse action figure was able to stand bipedally and hold machineguns.
I believe I pointed out in the last thread that BraveStarr is available on Netflix streaming and Hulu right now. And it is FANTASTIC!
For all my horror stories from working QA at [Large, Redmond, Washington-based software developer] I don't think I have anything that matches this tale for sheer awkwardness.
That distinction lies entirely in the eye of the beholder.
It's an interesting point - when in art does a piece reach the tipping point where it's no longer up to the viewer, it's just bad art? Presumably there must be such a point, otherwise anything could be considered good art because it just needs the "right" viewer.
That distinction lies entirely in the eye of the beholder.
It's an interesting point - when in art does a piece reach the tipping point where it's no longer up to the viewer, it's just bad art? Presumably there must be such a point, otherwise anything could be considered good art because it just needs the "right" viewer.
exactly it just needs the "right" viewer.
any discussion of art is opinions.
biased half done no thought opinions.
its all subjective.
if you want to attempt to be objective i think a longer more thoughtful post explaining your personal viewpoint in the arts sub forum would be a much more fruitful endeavor. that way there is real discussion*.
That distinction lies entirely in the eye of the beholder.
It's an interesting point - when in art does a piece reach the tipping point where it's no longer up to the viewer, it's just bad art? Presumably there must be such a point, otherwise anything could be considered good art because it just needs the "right" viewer.
Exactly. I have been critical of the art style not because I thought it should be photorealistic but because the orange noses are immediately distracting to me as a reader. Not only that but in many cases, especially on the female staff member, it reads like negative space to me and looks like a hole rather than a protruding nose.
It's one thing to do caricatures of people and their exaggerated facial properties and call it art. The noses in this comic suck, and you can't make me like them.
If you made a comic on LawStar alone, I'd read it. I'd make fucking fanfiction about him sexualizing his man-partner, no doubt some kind of Space Native American.
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Apart from it's clearly just based on BraveStarr.
Aren't pop-culture references hilarious?
War for Cybertron was baller and if he suffered to bring it to us, then good.
The hero and general concept, maybe, but if that villain isn't Mon-Star from Silverhawks in a cowboy hat then I'm the Copper Kid.
So terrible, yet so fun.
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I can't tell you how many years I've had this cartoon floating in the back of my head. I've asked SO MANY people if they remember it, but no one could come up with anything helpful. I was always hung on "Lonestar" and could never find anything on it.
You've made me a very happy boy.
I wonder if it has been suggested that perhaps they are snowmen
and their noses are actually carrots
I don't get it. And this specific entry is the one that takes me over the edge.
I'm not a doctor, and I don't know how faces work, but people's noses are different colours than their faces IRL all the time. And it's really more of a salmon colour in this one, which is really just pink under the odd washed out pallet used here (the villain's face is totally Games Workshop's Bleached Bone colour). Or maybe it's every one, I hadn't looked that close before. So yeah, pink noses. Not that weird.
People's noses aren't really any method cartoonists use to draw them
It's just a certain choice in character design, like the little black bubble nose on Disney characters.
One of the terrible horrible Front Mission games that came after the third? Squaresoft + Enix became SquEnix before Front Mission 4 came out...
I've never heard of this cartoon, so I googled. Turns out Hulu has all the episodes streaming free right now, so I can sate my curiosity.
What a wondrous age we live in.
Edit: I'm only like 3 minutes in to the first episode and already this thing is so trippy. And BraveStarr is some kind of native American analog, with powers of "hawk, puma and bear"? Stay classy, 1980's.
Edit edit: I take it back. His inexplicable animal powers aside, there doesn't seem to be anything culturally offensive in Bravestarr (well, ok, that name is pushing it, too), and it's nice to see a non-white hero in cartoons for once. Also, for badly animated 80s tripe, this show isn't half bad. Maybe I'm just overly amused by the fact that the first episode of a space western is an intergalactic battle of the bands, and the villain's evil plan revolves around the use of a wicked guitar.
I don't want to speak for Kurtz, but I'm fairly, (like, 45%) sure that he's not trying to draw photorealistic characters.
I mean Scott, jump in here and tell me if I'm being a douchebag, but it seems to me that any realism based criticisms of what is manifestly a fucking cartoon can be dismissed out of hand.
Again, I Am Not The Artist.
Over a year later I am still angry about the fact I payed full price for Front Mission Evolved on release day.
Actually, I would have been angry about paying any price for it.
There is a difference between stylized and stupid looking.
I was going to put it more politely, but yeah, pretty much. A lot of people seem to find Trenches' style hard on the eyes.
I watched a lot of BraveStarr in the 80s.
For all my horror stories from working QA at [Large, Redmond, Washington-based software developer] I don't think I have anything that matches this tale for sheer awkwardness.
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It's an interesting point - when in art does a piece reach the tipping point where it's no longer up to the viewer, it's just bad art? Presumably there must be such a point, otherwise anything could be considered good art because it just needs the "right" viewer.
exactly it just needs the "right" viewer.
any discussion of art is opinions.
biased half done no thought opinions.
its all subjective.
if you want to attempt to be objective i think a longer more thoughtful post explaining your personal viewpoint in the arts sub forum would be a much more fruitful endeavor. that way there is real discussion*.
*as real as it can get on the Internets
Exactly. I have been critical of the art style not because I thought it should be photorealistic but because the orange noses are immediately distracting to me as a reader. Not only that but in many cases, especially on the female staff member, it reads like negative space to me and looks like a hole rather than a protruding nose.
I really like this. Almost too much.