WuShock is the best
He is the very bestest
I wish I was him
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Sir FabulousMalevolent Squid GodRegistered Userregular
edited January 2012
Also it seems like they're printing quite a few multicoloured cards for this.
We've already got more multicoloured cards than all of Innistrad, which was 100 cards larger overall.
Beguiler of Wills 3UU
Human Wizard - (M)
T: Gain control of target creature with power less than or equal to the number of creatures you control.
1/1
Note: this control change does not expire.
EDIT: A turn 2 Scored Villager makes it REALLY painful for your opponent to not have a turn 2/3 play. Fortunately there will never be more than 8 (realistically 3 or 4) of them in any given 8-man draft.
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All the mythics revealed so far are so bad... which is good news for my wallet.
Unless you want Sorins. :P
Really at 60 dollars might as well just buy a booster box. Which I already did, along with a fat pack and the five intro packs. 50 damn boosters. Better draw at least 1 of him.
Really at 60 dollars might as well just buy a booster box. Which I already did, along with a fat pack and the five intro packs. 50 damn boosters. Better draw at least 1 of him.
Assuming a truly random distribution of cards at the understood rarities, 50 boosters should net you just over 60% chance of getting a Sorin. (This assumes that there are 10 mythics in the set just like Besieged.)
I had done the math already since I'm getting a booster and my and my son will be doing the release Limited tournament: 48 packs.
All the mythics revealed so far are so bad... which is good news for my wallet.
Unless you want Sorins. :P
Really at 60 dollars might as well just buy a booster box. Which I already did, along with a fat pack and the five intro packs. 50 damn boosters. Better draw at least 1 of him.
Presuming the set has 10 Mythics, and none of them are double-sided, your chances of pulling a Sorin are about 47%.
If one of the Mythics is double-sided, that increases your chances to about 50% (since a double-sided Mythic rare won't take up a normal Mythic rare slot).
This doesn't include foil slots, BTW, just because those chances are negligible if you're not a dealer opening cases.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
There should be 11 mythics with 1 double-sided (legendary Werewolf) if it holds up to the same pattern as Innistrad; Garruk was mythic 16 of 15. For Sorin's purposes, there are 10 mythics.
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So far the set looks a lot like Worldwake 2.0. One good Mythic and then a bunch of rares worth $4. Hopefully this will change as spoiler season moves forward.
well gee after you guys told me how cool it was to buy singles, I'm reading posts here and once again debating buying a box.
so it's currently fat pack + singles, or fat pack + box + singles... my get some/all the intro sets too.
I stand behind the general advice to buy singles. I want a Sorin, but there's no fucking way I'm paying $60 + S&H.
Look at the last "big fucking deal" planeswalkers: Liliana and Garruk. Both were pushing absurd numbers at release and for weeks afterwards. Right now I can buy each for $25 and $22 apiece, respectively. Which is still high, but makes me think that unless another card/combo comes to blow them right the fuck up with the 2nd/3rd set, I might be able to snag one of each for ~$10-15 or less, which is pretty much my limit for an individual single, and then only in extremely rare occasions.
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well gee after you guys told me how cool it was to buy singles, I'm reading posts here and once again debating buying a box.
so it's currently fat pack + singles, or fat pack + box + singles... my get some/all the intro sets too.
I stand behind the general advice to buy singles. I want a Sorin, but there's no fucking way I'm paying $60 + S&H.
Look at the last "big fucking deal" planeswalkers: Liliana and Garruk. Both were pushing absurd numbers at release and for weeks afterwards. Right now I can buy each for $25 and $22 apiece, respectively. Which is still high, but makes me think that unless another card/combo comes to blow them right the fuck up with the 2nd/3rd set, I might be able to snag one of each for ~$10-15 or less, which is pretty much my limit for an individual single, and then only in extremely rare occasions.
Liliana has a lot of utility, so I wouldn't expect her to go much lower than $20 while she's standard-legal. She's more like an Elspeth or a Gideon in that you can put 2 of her in any deck of the appropriate color and she makes the deck better just by being there. The only things that could drive her lower are a core set reprint, which wouldn't happen until 2013 and that's getting close to the end of her standard lifecycle; or some big unpredictable metagame shakeup.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Yeah, but I'm not lusting after one or anything. As I'm contractually obligated to note, I purely play casual EDH. If I have to wait a year to get a card for a reasonable rate, so be it. Having one is nice, being able to wait means I can try to avoid the early crush/premium, and sometimes I either bite the bullet and drop $20 on a mythic, or I see it climb higher than I'm willing to pay and do without.
I mean, I'm looking forward to buying up some DA in the coming weeks from my usual places, but I probably won't spend more than $5 on a card, and even those'll be infrequent rarities. These days I'm all about the cost effective cards, not the chase mythics that the better funded tournament players think are worth $200 a set. ... or are hoping are worth $200 a set and in a self fulfilling prophecy drive it up that high. :-P
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Speaking of EDH and card affordability, I particularly like Jar of Eyeballs as a potential alternative to Sensei's Divining Top in creature-heavy EDH decks.
Because you need that scry+draw functionality in EDH, but at $10-15 a pop, I don't ever have enough to go around.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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They previewed the R/G werewolf, and boy is he a doozy.
Right now I can see werewolves being taken two ways
Aggro: Both of the one drops, Both of the two drops, Everwolf, Kruin Outlaw, Moonmist, Burn
Midrange: Mayor, Daybreak Ranger, Mondronen Shaman, Huntsmaster of the Fells, Moonmist, whipflare, burn
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Werewolves do seem like more of a Limited play than a Constructed play. I could see drafting Everwolf and a couple of other good werewolves and giving people fits, but for constructed ... they're just too ... random, I think.
Then again, I'm still fairly new to this and I've been derpy all week, so there you go.
I like the concept of the werewolf mechanic, but between the randomness involved and the often lacklustre numbers for power/toughness as their baseline, I can't see myself building a deck around them like I have with other mechanics.
Really hope we see some impressive Undying cards though. More and more I want to build an EDH deck full of those creatures, Persist creatures and reusable methods of handing out +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters to creatures (my own and others). In a creature heavy meta like my usual playgroup is, it'd practically be impervious to anything but a double wrath.
As I recall Persist showed up in all 5 colours to some degree, but I'd probably try to narrow it down to 2-3 at most, depending on what seemed best as a general and picking from the cards in those sets. Green/White definitely (Heartmender, Forgotten Ancient), probably not Blue, Black would give me access to more -1/-1's, but I've already got 2 GBW decks built (Doran Infect and Ghave Tokens) so that seems a bit redundant. I suppose I could make it another Doran deck to abuse easy buff equipment as I have with Infect.
Really I just need to wait and see what else we get in Undying. If the creatures there are strong enough, it might even swing my colour choices. Pretty sure Green and White are locked in unless we see something stellar in two others.
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the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
then somehow destroy lands. w/g or w/r deck agogo
And I missed that Séance was each upkeep. You're right: still junk, but at least now it has an actual use.
...bumped to $60 on SCG, $59 on CFB, and $57 on CSI...
Silliness. Which annoys me, because I want a playset of Sorin's.
Human Wizard - (M)
T: Gain control of target creature with power less than or equal to the number of creatures you control.
1/1
Note: this control change does not expire.
EDIT: A turn 2 Scored Villager makes it REALLY painful for your opponent to not have a turn 2/3 play. Fortunately there will never be more than 8 (realistically 3 or 4) of them in any given 8-man draft.
Unless you want Sorins. :P
Really at 60 dollars might as well just buy a booster box. Which I already did, along with a fat pack and the five intro packs. 50 damn boosters. Better draw at least 1 of him.
Assuming a truly random distribution of cards at the understood rarities, 50 boosters should net you just over 60% chance of getting a Sorin. (This assumes that there are 10 mythics in the set just like Besieged.)
I had done the math already since I'm getting a booster and my and my son will be doing the release Limited tournament: 48 packs.
Presuming the set has 10 Mythics, and none of them are double-sided, your chances of pulling a Sorin are about 47%.
If one of the Mythics is double-sided, that increases your chances to about 50% (since a double-sided Mythic rare won't take up a normal Mythic rare slot).
This doesn't include foil slots, BTW, just because those chances are negligible if you're not a dealer opening cases.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Well, I'm not sure I'm right, but here's how I work these things out.
1 Mythic out of 8 packs, and 1 out of 10 mythics is Sorin. That means 1/80 probability of getting Sorin in a given booster.
That means the probability of not getting a Sorin in a single booster is 79/80.
The probability of not getting a Sorin across 50 boosters is (79/80)^50, which is 0.533.
Subtract that from 1 and you get 0.467.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
so it's currently fat pack + singles, or fat pack + box + singles... my get some/all the intro sets too.
also, my friend just told me something that implies no flip pw this set.... was this confirmed anywhere?
None of those look like Planeswalkers to me.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I stand behind the general advice to buy singles. I want a Sorin, but there's no fucking way I'm paying $60 + S&H.
Look at the last "big fucking deal" planeswalkers: Liliana and Garruk. Both were pushing absurd numbers at release and for weeks afterwards. Right now I can buy each for $25 and $22 apiece, respectively. Which is still high, but makes me think that unless another card/combo comes to blow them right the fuck up with the 2nd/3rd set, I might be able to snag one of each for ~$10-15 or less, which is pretty much my limit for an individual single, and then only in extremely rare occasions.
Liliana has a lot of utility, so I wouldn't expect her to go much lower than $20 while she's standard-legal. She's more like an Elspeth or a Gideon in that you can put 2 of her in any deck of the appropriate color and she makes the deck better just by being there. The only things that could drive her lower are a core set reprint, which wouldn't happen until 2013 and that's getting close to the end of her standard lifecycle; or some big unpredictable metagame shakeup.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I mean, I'm looking forward to buying up some DA in the coming weeks from my usual places, but I probably won't spend more than $5 on a card, and even those'll be infrequent rarities. These days I'm all about the cost effective cards, not the chase mythics that the better funded tournament players think are worth $200 a set. ... or are hoping are worth $200 a set and in a self fulfilling prophecy drive it up that high. :-P
Because you need that scry+draw functionality in EDH, but at $10-15 a pop, I don't ever have enough to go around.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Mayor of Avabruck and Scorned Villager at 2
Everwolf and Kruin Outlaw at 3
Huntmaster of the Fells at 4
That's a deck.
I dunno if it's a good deck.
But it's a deck.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Aggro: Both of the one drops, Both of the two drops, Everwolf, Kruin Outlaw, Moonmist, Burn
Midrange: Mayor, Daybreak Ranger, Mondronen Shaman, Huntsmaster of the Fells, Moonmist, whipflare, burn
Well, it's true!
Then again, I'm still fairly new to this and I've been derpy all week, so there you go.
Really hope we see some impressive Undying cards though. More and more I want to build an EDH deck full of those creatures, Persist creatures and reusable methods of handing out +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters to creatures (my own and others). In a creature heavy meta like my usual playgroup is, it'd practically be impervious to anything but a double wrath.
As I recall Persist showed up in all 5 colours to some degree, but I'd probably try to narrow it down to 2-3 at most, depending on what seemed best as a general and picking from the cards in those sets. Green/White definitely (Heartmender, Forgotten Ancient), probably not Blue, Black would give me access to more -1/-1's, but I've already got 2 GBW decks built (Doran Infect and Ghave Tokens) so that seems a bit redundant. I suppose I could make it another Doran deck to abuse easy buff equipment as I have with Infect.
Really I just need to wait and see what else we get in Undying. If the creatures there are strong enough, it might even swing my colour choices. Pretty sure Green and White are locked in unless we see something stellar in two others.