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    CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    There are plenty of add-ons in chrome, and the memory is lower than firefox on my machine. A few webpages in firefox and I'm at half a gig of memory. In chrome, I'll be maybe be at a 1/4. The only addon I run is adblock

    Yeah, Chrome's had extensions and themes for over a year now, and it has a web app store these days, too. Regarding ad blocking, there are two popular ones available for Chrome: AdBlock and an official port of AdBlock Plus (the super popular Firefox one). I use the former these days, but there's probably not too much difference.

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    ConnHurrConnHurr Edmonton, CanadaRegistered User regular
    In my experience, I have found Chrome to be a faster and better looking browser. But Firefox is a lot better for multitasking and productivity, but Chrome has just as many apps.

    And i've been using Chrome for about 2 years now, and I used to use Firefox before that.

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    SkyEyeSkyEye Registered User regular
    OK does anyone know how to get rid of bookmarks on the firefox toolbar without deleting the corresponding bookmark?

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    FremFrem Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    SkyEye wrote:
    OK does anyone know how to get rid of bookmarks on the firefox toolbar without deleting the corresponding bookmark?

    Click on Bookmarks in the Firefox menu or hit Ctrl+Shift+B to bring up the bookmark management window. You can drag bookmarks out of the toolbar category and into different folders and such.

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    KatoKato Registered User regular
    Nifty. Chrome finally beats out FireFox on a global basis.

    http://gs.statcounter.com/press/chrome-overtakes-firefox-globally-for-first-time

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    king awesomeking awesome Registered User regular
    I use Chrome since it always seemed a bit snappier on my machine.

    That being said, anyone who does any type of development that requires you to muck around with web pages at all should download and try Aurora (it's FireFox's alpha/beta build). The dom manipulator is really well done and I like it much better than the Safari/Chrome tools.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Chrome is a great lightweight browser.

    For more serious applications, though, you'd best be looking at FireFox and IE. IE is actually usable and, from reports of W8 beta users, is a pretty kickass system.

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    CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    Might be worth noting that the whole Chrome ecosystem thing is pretty well done, too. A month ago, I swapped my netbook's HDD for an SSD and put Chromium OS on it. Snappy as fuck, and invaluable during NaNoWriMo. And all my extensions and apps and shit synced across between my desktop and netbook.

    It also worked reasonably well offline, too, as I was using it on the train (and my phone's ROM has massive issues with wifi tethering).

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Yeah, if all you're using your web browser for is... basic web browsing, then it's hard to go wrong with Chrome.

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    CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    Yeah, I guess if you were doing web development, you may want to use Firefox or Opera. I guess. What does "basic web browsing" mean, anyway, as opposed to normal web browsing or hardcore web browsing?

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Cyvros wrote:
    Yeah, I guess if you were doing web development, you may want to use Firefox or Opera. I guess. What does "basic web browsing" mean, anyway, as opposed to normal web browsing or hardcore web browsing?

    There are tinkerers, people who use their web browsers to help in web browser development.

    Chrome is great if the only thing you're worried about is tabs, favorites, and it being an essentially foolproof browser.

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    BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    Cyvros wrote:
    Yeah, I guess if you were doing web development, you may want to use Firefox or Opera. I guess. What does "basic web browsing" mean, anyway, as opposed to normal web browsing or hardcore web browsing?

    There are tinkerers, people who use their web browsers to help in web browser development.

    I haven't fooled around with Firefox Aurora, but Chrome's dev tools have kicked the shit out of anything I've used for Gecko-based browsers.

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    Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    So has Firefox made a native 64-bit version yet and is there any reason to use the Plugin Container? It freezes pages at times.

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    ConnHurrConnHurr Edmonton, CanadaRegistered User regular
    Barrakketh wrote:
    Cyvros wrote:
    Yeah, I guess if you were doing web development, you may want to use Firefox or Opera. I guess. What does "basic web browsing" mean, anyway, as opposed to normal web browsing or hardcore web browsing?

    There are tinkerers, people who use their web browsers to help in web browser development.

    I haven't fooled around with Firefox Aurora, but Chrome's dev tools have kicked the shit out of anything I've used for Gecko-based browsers.

    Chrome's dev kit is one of the best i've used.

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    KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    I have a question concerning Opera...I know this thread is about the other two, but I am hoping someone can toss an answer out.

    FireFox and Chrome both have a way to surf "anonymously" or something. I think it's called Incognito for Chrome. Regardless...does Opera have a way to do this as well? It can come in pretty handy when you are surfing for presents and stuff and you don't want anyone else to happen across your searches.

    EDIT: Why yes...yes there is. Found it and thanks.

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Glad we could help! Also you don't have to say "presents," everyone knows it's porn.

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    KatoKato Registered User regular
    Glad we could help! Also you don't have to say "presents," everyone knows it's porn.
    ahahaha...cute :) In most cases, I would agree. This is a rare case where it is not porn, but ah well. My kids actually did pull up a history page from Amazon last night that had some presents on it that were ordered. They are getting older and craftier ;) I just need to be sneakier about it.

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Yeah, you have to start adding stuff like crummy sweatshirts and socks and educational DVDs to your Amazon.com shopping cart. Just leave them in there. Don't order them, but your kids will see them. For bonus fun make custom wishlists named after each of your kids and fill each wishlist with stuff they would never want.

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    KatoKato Registered User regular
    Wow...that is an amazingly awesome idea. I am going to do that after I get home tonight. Thanks TychoCelchuuu!

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    For some reason NeoGAF looks like this on both Firefox and Aurora for me:
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    I thought Greasemonkey or Userscript was the culprit, but disabling both yielded no fix.

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    FiskavFiskav Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    I've been using Chrome for several months now--having switched from Opera, and in turn from FireFox.

    My biggest complaint is how it fucks up with unicode. I can be pretty much certain that it's Chrome that regularly breaks Windows unicode support (requiring a restart, or forcing me to change unicode to a different language which in turn can cause other conflicts). If Opera had 1password support, I might switch back. But I do like Chrome's extension gallery.

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    BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    I've been using Chrome for several months now--having switched from Opera, and in turn from FireFox.

    My biggest complaint is how it fucks up with unicode. I can be pretty much certain that it's Chrome that regularly breaks Windows unicode support (requiring a restart, or forcing me to change unicode to a different language which in turn can cause other conflicts).
    I'm still using Vista, but I don't have that problem with Chrome. No unicode issues, and I also have my locale for non-unicode apps set to Japanese.

    Sometimes I see web pages that aren't displayed right, but those always have a missing or wrong encoding in the page.

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    FiskavFiskav Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Yeah, I'm not some guy who swears by a particular OS, but it goes without saying that Windows 7 is superior to Vista.

    I'm not even basing it on the notion that it's more secure. It's simply faster and less buggy, two things that are apparent the moment you boot it up.

    Frankly, I don't even want to migrate to Windows 8 right away on the grounds that W7's stability might have been a fluke.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    As much as we love to bash Vista, MSE was (and still is) pretty much all the protection you need from "Viruses, Spyware, Trojans and Adware" in it. And probably a decent number of intruders. :P

    It is, however, better organized and more streamlined, and easier on memory. Switch for those reasons. A lot (though not all) of the most prevalent Vista complaints are knowingly tied back to rather poor additional support--drivers, XP-specific software, etc.--which are no longer relevant. Of course, at the same time, Vista's getting older, and you may run into a lack of support again--though back when I had it, I found it incredibly rare to find a program for 7 that didn't work for Vista even when compatibility wasn't promised, short of something that relied specifically on a function added in 7 (also a good reason to switch).

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    CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    Frankly, I don't even want to migrate to Windows 8 right away on the grounds that W7's stability might have been a fluke.

    I installed the developer preview of W8 as soon as it was released. Four months later, and it's still solid as a rock.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    I'd be a lot more worried driver and software support. Then again, I downloaded the preview and never got around to actually installing it.

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    CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    From 7 to 8? I haven't had any driver issues (well, except for the pain in the arse that was the Android drivers for my Galaxy Nexus), and all my software's been fine. That said, I don't really use that much software beyond browsers/IM/multimedia/Steam these days.

    There really shouldn't be that much in terms of software issues, though. It's not that much of a major backend overhaul from 7, as I understand it.

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    FiskavFiskav Registered User regular
    edited December 2015
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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    I imagine you can hide all that, yes?

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    BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Synthesis wrote: »
    It is, however, better organized and more streamlined, and easier on memory.
    Or I could just reboot and choose Arch Linux from the boot menu :V

    Windows is for games and game-related things. I don't give a shit about Windows beyond that, so I'll upgrade to a newer version when I have to.

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    SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Barrakketh wrote:
    Synthesis wrote: »
    It is, however, better organized and more streamlined, and easier on memory.
    Or I could just reboot and choose Arch Linux from the boot menu :V

    Windows is for games and game-related things. I don't give a shit about Windows beyond that, so I'll upgrade to a newer version when I have to.

    Pretty much. Three semesters of using it wasn't enough to convince me to give a shit about Linux, so I don't use it anymore. It doesn't have anything I need.
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    Synthesis wrote: »
    I've been using Chrome for several months now--having switched from Opera, and in turn from FireFox.

    My biggest complaint is how it fucks up with unicode. I can be pretty much certain that it's Chrome that regularly breaks Windows unicode support (requiring a restart, or forcing me to change unicode to a different language which in turn can cause other conflicts).
    I'm still using Vista, but I don't have that problem with Chrome. No unicode issues, and I also have my locale for non-unicode apps set to Japanese.

    Sometimes I see web pages that aren't displayed right, but those always have a missing or wrong encoding in the page.

    Because you've set it to a foreign language unicode--if you keep it on English Unicode, in 7 (and in Vista, as I've found cases of online), Chrome will break unicode handling in a few minutes.

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    CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Fiskav wrote: »
    Windows 8... pfft.

    Liking your new and improved Windows Explorer, with minimal clutter? :P

    I actually went in a) liking the ribbon, b) thinking it was completely unnecessary for it to be applied to WE, and c) expecting it to be awful. A stuck, but B and C got turned on their heads within about four seconds of opening WE. Colour me surprised.
    I imagine you can hide all that, yes?

    Yeah. It's just like Office - you can double click any of the ribbon tabs and they get hidden. I usually keep it hidden, since all my folders are set up exactly the same way.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    So Chrome is preferred as a minimalistic browser? Thing is, I've been spoiled by all the Firefox add-ons, including Webmail Notifier, No Script, a customizable search bar, Paste and Go, and Last Pass, just to name a few.

    Are there no Chrome equivalents for any of those?
    No, Opera is preferred for the minimalistic browser. Opera has equivalents for Webmail Notifier and NoScript, it did customizable searches before everyone else and it has always done them better, it did Paste and Go before Firefox (although it doesn't do it better because there's only one way to do it), and it does password management fine.

    Meanwhile, for Paste and Go in Chrome, just follow these simple instructions:
    You install AutoHotKey and then run the "ChromePastenGo.ahk" script file to add the "Paste and Go" hot key to Chrome. The script at that link uses Windows key+V as the hot key, but I used the text below instead to use Ctrl+Shift+V (personal preference). If you want to use Ctrl+Shift+V you can grab the text below and save it as "ChromePastenGo.ahk".

    ;<========= ChromePastenGo.ahk =========>
    ; Relevant blog post: http://www.howtotuts.com/2008/09/07/how-to-paste-and-go-in-chrome-using-keyboard/
    ; Author: Sridhar Katakam, Edited by: Wesley Hart
    ; ^ = Ctrl, ! = Alt, + = Shift, # = Win

    #NoEnv
    #SingleInstance force

    #IfWinActive ahk_class Chrome_XPFrame
    ^+v:: Send !d^v{Enter}
    ^!+v:: Send ^t!d^v{Enter}
    #IfWinActive
    ;</========= ChromePastenGo.ahk> =========>

    So clearly Chrome is the winner here, because why bother with built-in Paste and Go when you can install a third party program and grab your own script from someone on the Internet? Heck, that's even better than Firefox, which only makes you download a single extension!



    Snark aside, just try both. I didn't really understand why anyone would bother with Opera until I got curious one day, tried it, and realized that it did everything I wanted in a browser without fiddling around with extensions. In the rare case that something wasn't intuitive, I would just Google "X in Opera" where X is what I wanted to do, and the solution would usually pop up. In Firefox, the solution is generally an extension, and before long your browser is sucking up a gig of RAM and performing badly. In Chrome the solution is generally "Chrome doesn't really do that."

    Opera has had mouse gestures before Firefox evermore existed, I think. Opera is clearly the fastest and most comfortable browser.
    Just for fun, open 40 tabs in Firefox LR chrome, and tell me how many seconds it takes to scroll one line down in one page.
    Now open that many in opera, and see if you even notice a difference

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Good lord, 1/8th of the screen is taken up with typical windows commands that you can find under the menus.

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    DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote:
    I'd be a lot more worried driver and software support. Then again, I downloaded the preview and never got around to actually installing it.

    I don't believe they went with a new driver model for Windows 8 (like they did from XP to Vista) so drivers shouldn't be too much of an issue. Also all Win7 apps should work on Windows 8.

    Windows 8 should be Win7 tabletized and re-skinned.


    So I just learned why Google services all are so fast on Chrome: SPDY.

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    BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    Djeet wrote: »
    So I just learned why Google services all are so fast on Chrome: SPDY.
    Firefox "Aurora" builds support SPDY, but it's disabled by default. The Kindle Fire also uses SPDY for its Silk browser.

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    bowen wrote:
    Good lord, 1/8th of the screen is taken up with typical windows commands that you can find under the menus.
    If you like the whole "search through menus" thing just hide the ribbon. More options is never a bad thing.

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    FiskavFiskav Registered User regular
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