I only remember Balefeugo hating everything, if he liked X-books that intrigues me.
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Yeah, low sales. James Asmus said as much when he announced the cancellation: it would have been cancelled along with Daken, Black Panther, etc, but editorial wanted to wrap up the story of Hope and the Lights before AvX.
I don't think he is a bad character or anything and that you guys are crazy for liking him but he reads like one long Warren Ellis joke to me and it has gotten really old really fast.
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I think he works specifically because he's a supporting character, and that way one liners once or twice every issue aren't a problem, and any screentime after that is usually much more insightful to the character or story. Carey was really good at that.
I get what you're saying because that's how I feel about Beast now in recent months, as he's gone from witty geneticist to smug super scientist who is Reed and Pym and Stark all put together in terms of capabilities.
I don't normally care for comic book romances (at least til Kitty and Logan get married), but Idie and Genesis would be a far awesomer couple than Idie and Evan.
I only remember Balefeugo hating everything, if he liked X-books that intrigues me.
Bale is a fellow X Fanatic.
We're a special breed.
Not sure I'm familiar with X Fanatics, was that a limited series in the 90's? :P
Sorry, dumb joke...
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Generation Hope #16 put's Kenji's plan into action, and it's a rather good one, his justifications work very well beyond just being the crazy one of the bunch.
it wasn't outright explained this issue but it looks like he merged or worked up something with Martha and since he can control his pieces still, all those burgers people ate a few issues back and other pieces he's used are controlling others like Emma and the MLF to kill Hope, because if she can control any new mutant she activates, that gives her way too much power.
Takeshi Miyazawa draws this issue and it's actually who should have been drawing the book since the beginning, nice art, and probably the best Pixie I've seen yet.
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Christ TexiKen my shop has been open for five minutes and you've already read Gen Hope what kind of magic are you pulling
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As a CIA Agent Tex actually arrests comic book delivery guys on jump up charges of terrorism and then reads all their comics before he released them with a stern warning "not to do it again"
I don't think he is a bad character or anything and that you guys are crazy for liking him but he reads like one long Warren Ellis joke to me and it has gotten really old really fast.
This. I like Gillen, but I just can't buy work that Land "draws." I missed out on Mike Carey's Second Coming issues on Legacy because Land got pushed over to that book instead of staying over on Uncanny where he should have been.
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He actually does some good art when he isn't tracing out of Maxim or something. It's also why Marvel probably keeps him around. When he actually bothers to try, he's a damn good artist. I wish I could find some of the panels i've seen online, so I could post them. One of them was a really good looking Apocalypse that was about to ruin someone's shit, I believe. Though my memory is fuzzy.
Problem is, he has a habit of taking the lazy way out. And like how a few comic book artists like to do side work with lots of cheese-cake, he seems to have a "thing" for some really weird poses with the heroines in the issues he draws.
And even then, he's done some good work with his creepy faces. Endsong was fucking disturbing on a re-read, once you realize the Phoenix has gone batshit crazy and is basically a stalker with a crush (That doesn't even know what a crush, or love is. Which is part of the problem.). Then all the cheap fan-service goes from kind of eye-rolling to "this is fucking disturbing". And that's pretty much the intention, once you start reading between the lines.
Though that one panel with Emma posing like she's getting ready to indulge in a bukkake session probably could have been nixed by the editors. There's no real reason for that, since she wasn't all Phoenix'd up at the time. That's the only really thing I could think of though.
On that note, if you have a Marvel digital comics subscription, you should read Endsong. It's surprisingly good. It's more a character piece that subtly establishes a few things, and is a set up for Warsong (Which is not so good, but introduces a ton of plots that are integral to how the future X-Men work.), but it's probably one of the more interesting X-Men comics i've read on there so far.
On that note, i'm like ninety nine percent certain that both Warsong and Endsong are probably going to play into the whole Hope thing. There's just too many correlations and plot devices that are waiting to get resolved. Off the top of my head that I can think of:
The Phoenix isn't able to firmly restablish itself due to some pieces not wanting to "come home", and may still be batshit insane from some jackass Shiar commander forcibly re-incarnating it, then blowing it up. Which wasn't a good idea, as the Shiar priest dude explains. The commander (Who dies in Endsong, obviously. But he goes out like a badass.) thinks that a crazy Phoenix is alright because "It's a fraction of its power now, we can finally kill it!", to which the Shiar priest dude asks what a fraction of infinity is, since it's a basic part of the universe. Cue the "oh crap" faces.
Scott is still deeply in love with Jean. To the point where there's some serious parallels with him and how he treats Emma.
The Cuckoo's have been automatons since Warsong. Because they have parts of the Phoenix that couldn't merge with the rest stuck inside of them, and they're keeping it contained. This is also why they all speak together, now, instead of having individual personalities like before.
The Phoenix committed infanticide on Emma's kids. That Sublime stole. In front of her. And by infanticide, I mean Sublime stole a good deal of her eggs, and used them to grow a ton of Cuckoo's. Many of which were in deep pain, and were basically being used as a sort of psychic battery. Which the Phoenix did not like, for some reason. Then, to top things off, it was revealed that the Cuckoo's that she knew were also her children (Explaining the visual resemblance and powers.), after which they were pretty much lobotomized to keep the Phoenix in check. Also, the Phoenix was still a bit crazy then.
Emma was pissed at the end. In the sort of "I'm going to kill both you and Jean Grey/visit horrible fates upon you" even if it destroys me sort of way. Which is understandable, her own family, and her students were pretty much irreversibly mauled.
There's some weird visions at the start where the Phoenix is burning the world. With Emma as the host. Also, Scott is literally melting as it burns him, begging to know why Emma is doing this. Taken by itself it makes sense in story, but this could be an interesting turnabout and red herring, given that Emma was the host for the Phoenix in Endsong for a short time.
If they skip over all of that i'll be incredibly disappointed. Just gotten into reading comics recently, and I was surprised at those two comics, and the depth they had. Even if Warsong is incredibly confusing and kind of shitty to follow.
Remender said there was "a lot of talk" about tying into "Avengers vs. X-Men," but "there was no story." "We've got this trajectory, we've got this story we're telling in 'X-Force,'" he said, and he didn't want to jeopardize that even though it would be cool to do some of the fights.
"One of the strengths of 'X-Force' is that it has stood on its own," Lowe said. "Let's go forward telling this story. "We try to do a good balance here at Marvel, things that tie in and things that don't." Remender added that it of course would have been a sales bump to cross over with "Secret Avengers," but he thinks it was the right decision to leave the run uninterrupted at this time.
Very cool of Marvel not to force the book to tie-in. Though to be fair the Fear Itself Uncanny X-Force tie-ins were a separate mini altogether.
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he's much funnier with the emphatic starfish on his face
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I have to agree with Tex, Gen Hope this past week was *really* good. It's making me both look forward to AvX and wishing I could follow the kids to Avengers Academy.
I have to agree with Tex, Gen Hope this past week was *really* good. It's making me both look forward to AvX and wishing I could follow the kids to Avengers Academy.
The Gen Hope kids are going to Academy? Would have figured they 'd go to WatXM school.
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I liked that book a lot
Dr. Nemesis/Atomic Robo team-up
I don't think he is a bad character or anything and that you guys are crazy for liking him but he reads like one long Warren Ellis joke to me and it has gotten really old really fast.
now I am so disappointed in you
disappointed
I get what you're saying because that's how I feel about Beast now in recent months, as he's gone from witty geneticist to smug super scientist who is Reed and Pym and Stark all put together in terms of capabilities.
Man
I am writing this down
Valentine's day, 2012, Blank admits that he dislikes Dr Nemesis
We truly are in the end times
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
:evil:
Bale is a fellow X Fanatic.
We're a special breed.
Not sure I'm familiar with X Fanatics, was that a limited series in the 90's? :P
Takeshi Miyazawa draws this issue and it's actually who should have been drawing the book since the beginning, nice art, and probably the best Pixie I've seen yet.
Agreed.
Maybe we should hang out or something... I just never really got him to begin with though.
Does that make me a bad person?
That moment when you realise Land has copy-pasted
That's the moment he lives for
Two Storm porn faces just ruin the emotional climax of the issue, too.
That said, to tie into the other conversation, Gillen does a really good Dr. Nemesis joke by having Danger tell it instead.
Sadly, he works on UXM which is a pretty good comic right now
So I want it
this tabula rasa arc really just feels like spinning wheels until AvX, though.
A little
But at the same time I think there might be hints in there of what to come
And also I simply enjoy Gillen's writing so I can roll with it
This. I like Gillen, but I just can't buy work that Land "draws." I missed out on Mike Carey's Second Coming issues on Legacy because Land got pushed over to that book instead of staying over on Uncanny where he should have been.
He actually does some good art when he isn't tracing out of Maxim or something. It's also why Marvel probably keeps him around. When he actually bothers to try, he's a damn good artist. I wish I could find some of the panels i've seen online, so I could post them. One of them was a really good looking Apocalypse that was about to ruin someone's shit, I believe. Though my memory is fuzzy.
Problem is, he has a habit of taking the lazy way out. And like how a few comic book artists like to do side work with lots of cheese-cake, he seems to have a "thing" for some really weird poses with the heroines in the issues he draws.
And even then, he's done some good work with his creepy faces. Endsong was fucking disturbing on a re-read, once you realize the Phoenix has gone batshit crazy and is basically a stalker with a crush (That doesn't even know what a crush, or love is. Which is part of the problem.). Then all the cheap fan-service goes from kind of eye-rolling to "this is fucking disturbing". And that's pretty much the intention, once you start reading between the lines.
Though that one panel with Emma posing like she's getting ready to indulge in a bukkake session probably could have been nixed by the editors. There's no real reason for that, since she wasn't all Phoenix'd up at the time. That's the only really thing I could think of though.
On that note, if you have a Marvel digital comics subscription, you should read Endsong. It's surprisingly good. It's more a character piece that subtly establishes a few things, and is a set up for Warsong (Which is not so good, but introduces a ton of plots that are integral to how the future X-Men work.), but it's probably one of the more interesting X-Men comics i've read on there so far.
On that note, i'm like ninety nine percent certain that both Warsong and Endsong are probably going to play into the whole Hope thing. There's just too many correlations and plot devices that are waiting to get resolved. Off the top of my head that I can think of:
Scott is still deeply in love with Jean. To the point where there's some serious parallels with him and how he treats Emma.
The Cuckoo's have been automatons since Warsong. Because they have parts of the Phoenix that couldn't merge with the rest stuck inside of them, and they're keeping it contained. This is also why they all speak together, now, instead of having individual personalities like before.
The Phoenix committed infanticide on Emma's kids. That Sublime stole. In front of her. And by infanticide, I mean Sublime stole a good deal of her eggs, and used them to grow a ton of Cuckoo's. Many of which were in deep pain, and were basically being used as a sort of psychic battery. Which the Phoenix did not like, for some reason. Then, to top things off, it was revealed that the Cuckoo's that she knew were also her children (Explaining the visual resemblance and powers.), after which they were pretty much lobotomized to keep the Phoenix in check. Also, the Phoenix was still a bit crazy then.
Emma was pissed at the end. In the sort of "I'm going to kill both you and Jean Grey/visit horrible fates upon you" even if it destroys me sort of way. Which is understandable, her own family, and her students were pretty much irreversibly mauled.
There's some weird visions at the start where the Phoenix is burning the world. With Emma as the host. Also, Scott is literally melting as it burns him, begging to know why Emma is doing this. Taken by itself it makes sense in story, but this could be an interesting turnabout and red herring, given that Emma was the host for the Phoenix in Endsong for a short time.
If they skip over all of that i'll be incredibly disappointed. Just gotten into reading comics recently, and I was surprised at those two comics, and the depth they had. Even if Warsong is incredibly confusing and kind of shitty to follow.
Very cool of Marvel not to force the book to tie-in. Though to be fair the Fear Itself Uncanny X-Force tie-ins were a separate mini altogether.
The Gen Hope kids are going to Academy? Would have figured they 'd go to WatXM school.