So they've introduced the lamest reason to keep them apart yet after yet more false starts. They better squash that next episode, it's good for some conflict, but as a road block it's just so damn stupid. Martha lets him get away with assigning the blame to Kate when I didn't see him being all forthcoming when there wasn't a massive distraction occurring...
I didn't see the culprit coming oddly, so that was kind of a nice surprise.
We're running out of episodes this season, someone is going to bring up Kate's mom again soon.
Also, what the fuck, the "I remember everything" conflict should have come up ages ago. At this point it is absurd how long it is taking for the two of them to smang each other.
Also, looking back, I hope that this is the worst season of Castle. It kinda seems like, after the season finale last year, they didn't know if they should keep being a fun show or a tense actiony show. So they decided to do both and excel at neither. I'm hoping that, during the off time they'll get a better grasp on what makes the show work and run with that.
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I was actually thinking when they let Castle know about Beckett remembering his declaration of love that they really should have kept that a secret from us, too, if they weren't going to do anything with it before the reveal. As a surprise it would have been a fair sight more entertaining.
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I was actually thinking when they let Castle know about Beckett remembering his declaration of love that they really should have kept that a secret from us, too, if they weren't going to do anything with it before the reveal. As a surprise it would have been a fair sight more entertaining.
Good call, I very much agree. At least that way the fans would be kinda like "what the hell Beckett" along side Castle. As it stands we're all sucked into the dramatic irony of it all and upset with Castle (aka the writers) that he cannot see past what he just heard.
Also, what the fuck, the "I remember everything" conflict should have come up ages ago. At this point it is absurd how long it is taking for the two of them to smang each other.
Also, looking back, I hope that this is the worst season of Castle. It kinda seems like, after the season finale last year, they didn't know if they should keep being a fun show or a tense actiony show. So they decided to do both and excel at neither. I'm hoping that, during the off time they'll get a better grasp on what makes the show work and run with that.
I completely agree with that. They really should go just resolve the Castle/Beckett thing, make the cases less out there and be funny again.
I was actually thinking when they let Castle know about Beckett remembering his declaration of love that they really should have kept that a secret from us, too, if they weren't going to do anything with it before the reveal. As a surprise it would have been a fair sight more entertaining.
Good call, I very much agree. At least that way the fans would be kinda like "what the hell Beckett" along side Castle. As it stands we're all sucked into the dramatic irony of it all and upset with Castle (aka the writers) that he cannot see past what he just heard.
Yeah, though they do let you see what Castle is feeling. Sadly through exposition. It would have been better if they had not told us. If it had come as a shock. We would have been rocked by the dramatic impact.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are these, it might have been"
Feels like there have been too many non standard episodes lately. I don't mind breaking from the formula every once in a while, but seems like more episodes are outside the norm since the start of the year.
I really would like Castle and Beckett to just get it over with and then move on the campy one liners from season 1. I kinda wonder if the writers don't know how to continue the show with the tension resolved. See "Chuck" for pointers please.
Yeah it is getting a bit disappointing, and I agree with @Xeddicus, Martha should have called Rick on his shit. I also didn't get how Kate was listening to all the side comments from Rick and couldn't put together that he overheard her. I mean she is supposed to be an ace detective, and week after week they solve these mysteries, but it ended with her just scratching her head.
I hope they do something meaningful with it, it has been a good plot point so far, but it needs to get resolved.
She's being blocked by Plot Stupidness, of course, just like him. Not a new occurrence, but they blatantly had both of them shine spotlights on the issue before taking it to a new level. It's probably too late in the season for them to do anything with it, they'll just ride it out. Or they'll surprise me.
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But if nothing else: she knows. And it's a bit beyond that at this point anyway.
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nuke and Nathan from Heroes as a secret agent guy.
This the one you all hated? It was a pretty severe tonal shift, but I really liked the altered title card for the second ep, that was a nice touch. And the resolution was great, imo.
nuke and Nathan from Heroes as a secret agent guy.
This the one you all hated? It was a pretty severe tonal shift, but I really liked the altered title card for the second ep, that was a nice touch. And the resolution was great, imo.
That's a pretty big problem though, isn't it? If I wanted to watch 24, I would just buy the DVDs, you know?
Fuck the haters, the ending to that story arc was some of the best TV of all time.
Yep. Also, I wasn't bothered by the change of pace. Happy to let them experiment a bit, shake things up, remind us of the people that the show is grounded in before we send Espo off to flirt with strippers while wearing Ryan's wedding band.
nuke and Nathan from Heroes as a secret agent guy.
This the one you all hated? It was a pretty severe tonal shift, but I really liked the altered title card for the second ep, that was a nice touch. And the resolution was great, imo.
No, I believe that was last season. The hated one was a two-parter in the current season.
Also, am I alone in having zero interest in Castle & Beckett becoming a couple? I'd find the show just as entertaining if they were just friends without the romantic tension at all (maybe even more entertaining, since we wouldn't currently be having to get through this cliche "Oh, these two main characters are destined to be together, but there are just so many pointless obstacles delaying it" crap that really rubs me the wrong way).
Though that's probably just residual annoyance from my early days on internet forums and X-Files and Buffy being the things at the time.
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I don't know... the two actors have good chemistry (including sexual) so to ignore it seems a bit misplaced. But even when they're romantically involved (if they ever do) they shouldn't make a big deal about it. I see them being the friends they currently are and occasionally doing something at the end of the day.
I don't know... the two actors have good chemistry (including sexual) so to ignore it seems a bit misplaced. But even when they're romantically involved (if they ever do) they shouldn't make a big deal about it. I see them being the friends they currently are and occasionally doing something at the end of the day.
They should handle it like Community - some random episode, just say "yeah they've been doing it in secret for like 6 months now" and then they stop because it's not any fun now that people know about it. Troll the shippers! :P
It's a little too late to go that route (friends), since they've been beating us over the head with it every 3 or 4 episodes. If they wanted to keep it a non issue should have kept it in the background a lot more.
I don't know... the two actors have good chemistry (including sexual) so to ignore it seems a bit misplaced.
Not necessarily. The actors that play Dexter and Deb on Dexter had pretty good chemistry (and were even married in real life), but most fans seem to think that chemistry should be ignored with the characters.
Because not only was it partly ignored, but refocused. That's more an example of why not to go meddling to me, but shrug.
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The romantic relationship between Castle and Beckett is the best element of the show, and the one element that truly sets it apart from all other procedurals. As much as we enjoy Nathan Fillion's mugging, the pitch for this show is "Procedural + romantic comedy". If the show has a problem it's that the relationship hasn't been progressing fast enough (or hasn't been prominent enough), not the other way around.
I don't know... the two actors have good chemistry (including sexual) so to ignore it seems a bit misplaced.
Not necessarily. The actors that play Dexter and Deb on Dexter had pretty good chemistry (and were even married in real life), but most fans seem to think that chemistry should be ignored with the characters.
I never once thought Dexter and Deb have good sexual chemistry. Mostly because I wanted to punch her in the face during most of her scenes...
Killing off the chief? Did not see that coming. And then shooting Beckett on top of the sad ending? Man...
I didn't like how they covered up his involvement for Kate's mother's murder after his death. This is the second time they've covered up for cops they like who were criminals. :evil:
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Killing off the chief? Did not see that coming. And then shooting Beckett on top of the sad ending? Man...
I didn't like how they covered up his involvement for Kate's mother's murder after his death. This is the second time they've covered up for cops they like who were criminals. :evil:
Well ya can't bring a dead guy to justice, right? :P Destroying his reputation could only do harm, no good, so I get why they did it. If he'd lived, maybe it would have been different, they'd have time to feel betrayed and turn him in.
Just starting season 4, dayamn, I was expecting a "6 months later" and skip all this pesky Kate just got shot stuff.
Also, guess I got the ending of season 3 totally wrong! I thought Montgomery failed to kill Lockwood, and then he showed up at the funeral and shot Kate? But this ep they're saying Lockwood is dead and this was some other dude.
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You talking about experiencing season 3's finale again makes me want to re-watch it. I am so glad that I have hulu plus so I could see the immediate aftermath (even if I wasn't too thrilled with how that all got handled)
Not a fan of tonight's episode for the fact that the drama seemed really forced. This show is not a romantic comedy, but the shit they're throwing into this relationship sure makes it feel like it is. Complication after complication. It feels really contrived.
Castle suddenly getting a new blonde bimbo at exactly the same time when Kate finally decides to open up to him? Yeah right.
The British stuff was alright, but overall, this was one of my least favorite episodes of Castle, just because the whole relationship stuff was so forced.
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I don't see it working unless she brings Havi or Laney along or something.
I didn't see the culprit coming oddly, so that was kind of a nice surprise.
We're running out of episodes this season, someone is going to bring up Kate's mom again soon.
That reason being the network altering the show's formula to be easier to follow, without that the new premise would have been fine.
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Also, what the fuck, the "I remember everything" conflict should have come up ages ago. At this point it is absurd how long it is taking for the two of them to smang each other.
Also, looking back, I hope that this is the worst season of Castle. It kinda seems like, after the season finale last year, they didn't know if they should keep being a fun show or a tense actiony show. So they decided to do both and excel at neither. I'm hoping that, during the off time they'll get a better grasp on what makes the show work and run with that.
Good call, I very much agree. At least that way the fans would be kinda like "what the hell Beckett" along side Castle. As it stands we're all sucked into the dramatic irony of it all and upset with Castle (aka the writers) that he cannot see past what he just heard.
I completely agree with that. They really should go just resolve the Castle/Beckett thing, make the cases less out there and be funny again.
Yeah, though they do let you see what Castle is feeling. Sadly through exposition. It would have been better if they had not told us. If it had come as a shock. We would have been rocked by the dramatic impact.
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I hope they do something meaningful with it, it has been a good plot point so far, but it needs to get resolved.
This the one you all hated? It was a pretty severe tonal shift, but I really liked the altered title card for the second ep, that was a nice touch. And the resolution was great, imo.
That's a pretty big problem though, isn't it? If I wanted to watch 24, I would just buy the DVDs, you know?
Yep. Also, I wasn't bothered by the change of pace. Happy to let them experiment a bit, shake things up, remind us of the people that the show is grounded in before we send Espo off to flirt with strippers while wearing Ryan's wedding band.
No, I believe that was last season. The hated one was a two-parter in the current season.
Also, am I alone in having zero interest in Castle & Beckett becoming a couple? I'd find the show just as entertaining if they were just friends without the romantic tension at all (maybe even more entertaining, since we wouldn't currently be having to get through this cliche "Oh, these two main characters are destined to be together, but there are just so many pointless obstacles delaying it" crap that really rubs me the wrong way).
Though that's probably just residual annoyance from my early days on internet forums and X-Files and Buffy being the things at the time.
They should handle it like Community - some random episode, just say "yeah they've been doing it in secret for like 6 months now" and then they stop because it's not any fun now that people know about it. Troll the shippers! :P
Not necessarily. The actors that play Dexter and Deb on Dexter had pretty good chemistry (and were even married in real life), but most fans seem to think that chemistry should be ignored with the characters.
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I never once thought Dexter and Deb have good sexual chemistry. Mostly because I wanted to punch her in the face during most of her scenes...
Just starting season 4, dayamn, I was expecting a "6 months later" and skip all this pesky Kate just got shot stuff.
Also, guess I got the ending of season 3 totally wrong! I thought Montgomery failed to kill Lockwood, and then he showed up at the funeral and shot Kate? But this ep they're saying Lockwood is dead and this was some other dude.
The British stuff was alright, but overall, this was one of my least favorite episodes of Castle, just because the whole relationship stuff was so forced.
Contrived relationship complications were not.