At my last job, timesheets represented about 10-15% of my daily workload, just due to the level of detail my boss demanded.
Of course, it was impossible to do this within the allotted time, so you had to make a choice: put in unpaid overtime (illegally) to get it done, or just don't get it done and get yelled at.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
dad would have had more impact
though far less believable
fuck gendered marketing
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
At my last job, timesheets represented about 10-15% of my daily workload, just due to the level of detail my boss demanded.
Of course, it was impossible to do this within the allotted time, so you had to make a choice: put in unpaid overtime (illegally) to get it done, or just don't get it done and get yelled at.
When you spend a good chunk of your man hours tracking how your man hours are spent, something is wrong.
At my last job, timesheets represented about 10-15% of my daily workload, just due to the level of detail my boss demanded.
Of course, it was impossible to do this within the allotted time, so you had to make a choice: put in unpaid overtime (illegally) to get it done, or just don't get it done and get yelled at.
you couldn't put down hours spent filling out timesheets on the timesheets?
fuck gendered marketing
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
edited March 2012
"We will devote most of our resources to tracking productivity until productivity improves"
At my last job, timesheets represented about 10-15% of my daily workload, just due to the level of detail my boss demanded.
Of course, it was impossible to do this within the allotted time, so you had to make a choice: put in unpaid overtime (illegally) to get it done, or just don't get it done and get yelled at.
you couldn't put down hours spent filling out timesheets on the timesheets?
The idea was that you'd fill out your timesheet little by little as you work, and that way you'd just 'bake in' that time into each project.
That was a retarded idea and nobody ever did it but it didn't stop them from demanding it week after week after week :rotate:
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
when i was working as a PM at a place i suggested in a meeting that we put in a "filling out timesheets" bucket in our overly-complicated task tracking system.
guess what! i got one. and I put so much time into that bucket.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
Flash Duel seems like it's super random. Like, there was no possible way to win that first round because I could not get an attack off against an opponent with better cards.
I disagree, there were a lot of different ways you could have played that match. That's all I can really say given that I have knowledge of all the cards though.
i'm sure there was a way i could have done better, but it really seems like whoever gets the first dashing strike has an enormous advantage and that really depends who gets the high cards first, or the cards which grant them anti-dashing strike defenses.
like, Rook has that defensive ability, but when you get DS'd with 4s and 5s, there's not much you can do, and there's no way to outmaneuver someone who just has higher cards for dashes. By contrast, if Rook has a pair of 5s, it's almost impossible to beat him, because he will block your dashing strike and move in with his super dangerous close-range powers.
this isn't just re: my own game, it's about the others as well.
it's still a pretty fascinating mechanic for such a brief game, but luck plays an enormous role, I think, since it grants starkly different abilities to each player with each hand.
At my last job, timesheets represented about 10-15% of my daily workload, just due to the level of detail my boss demanded.
Of course, it was impossible to do this within the allotted time, so you had to make a choice: put in unpaid overtime (illegally) to get it done, or just don't get it done and get yelled at.
you couldn't put down hours spent filling out timesheets on the timesheets?
The idea was that you'd fill out your timesheet little by little as you work, and that way you'd just 'bake in' that time into each project.
That was a retarded idea and nobody ever did it but it didn't stop them from demanding it week after week after week :rotate:
bake in?
wtf?
I can only assume that was what management was doing when they came up with that policy
it's too bad none of you fuckers live in my city, i have so much expensive booze i would like to share
Which city is that? Maybe I do.
I mean.
Maybe I could.
ottawa, ontario, canada
not a bad city, really
one of the worst dressed in the continent by most fashion mag assessments though
I'm actually going to be in Ottawa with a friend, visiting a couple other friends, the weekend after Easter.
well, if you like bourbon, let me tell you
you got an opportunity
I would love to try out bourbon--especially with you. I am often jealous of your posts in the Alcohol thread.
(I'll shoot you a PM or something closer to the date so I know my "itinerary". haha)
have you never had bourbon before? any whiskey is pretty powerful stuff if you're not a drinker.
i am constantly derided for having deliberately acclimated myself to whiskey and alcohol instead of it being "natural," like my taste is artificial or fake.
Flash Duel seems like it's super random. Like, there was no possible way to win that first round because I could not get an attack off against an opponent with better cards.
I disagree, there were a lot of different ways you could have played that match. That's all I can really say given that I have knowledge of all the cards though.
i'm sure there was a way i could have done better, but it really seems like whoever gets the first dashing strike has an enormous advantage and that really depends who gets the high cards first, or the cards which grant them anti-dashing strike defenses.
like, Rook has that defensive ability, but when you get DS'd with 4s and 5s, there's not much you can do, and there's no way to outmaneuver someone who just has higher cards for dashes. By contrast, if Rook has a pair of 5s, it's almost impossible to beat him, because he will block your dashing strike and move in with his super dangerous close-range powers.
this isn't just re: my own game, it's about the others as well.
it's still a pretty fascinating mechanic for such a brief game, but luck plays an enormous role, I think, since it grants starkly different abilities to each player with each hand.
I still disagree with your assessment. Everyone so far has been playing the game at a rather sub-optimal level, which isn't surprising given that it is everyone's first game.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
it's too bad none of you fuckers live in my city, i have so much expensive booze i would like to share
Which city is that? Maybe I do.
I mean.
Maybe I could.
ottawa, ontario, canada
not a bad city, really
one of the worst dressed in the continent by most fashion mag assessments though
I'm actually going to be in Ottawa with a friend, visiting a couple other friends, the weekend after Easter.
well, if you like bourbon, let me tell you
you got an opportunity
I would love to try out bourbon--especially with you. I am often jealous of your posts in the Alcohol thread.
(I'll shoot you a PM or something closer to the date so I know my "itinerary". haha)
have you never had bourbon before? any whiskey is pretty powerful stuff if you're not a drinker.
i am constantly derided for having deliberately acclimated myself to whiskey and alcohol instead of it being "natural," like my taste is artificial or fake.
it's too bad none of you fuckers live in my city, i have so much expensive booze i would like to share
Which city is that? Maybe I do.
I mean.
Maybe I could.
ottawa, ontario, canada
not a bad city, really
one of the worst dressed in the continent by most fashion mag assessments though
I'm actually going to be in Ottawa with a friend, visiting a couple other friends, the weekend after Easter.
well, if you like bourbon, let me tell you
you got an opportunity
I would love to try out bourbon--especially with you. I am often jealous of your posts in the Alcohol thread.
(I'll shoot you a PM or something closer to the date so I know my "itinerary". haha)
have you never had bourbon before? any whiskey is pretty powerful stuff if you're not a drinker.
i am constantly derided for having deliberately acclimated myself to whiskey and alcohol instead of it being "natural," like my taste is artificial or fake.
I haven't knowingly had bourbon, but I love whiskey. It's my go-to alcohol. I'm definitely a drinker, I just haven't gotten around to trying the bourbons.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
Flash Duel seems like it's super random. Like, there was no possible way to win that first round because I could not get an attack off against an opponent with better cards.
I disagree, there were a lot of different ways you could have played that match. That's all I can really say given that I have knowledge of all the cards though.
i'm sure there was a way i could have done better, but it really seems like whoever gets the first dashing strike has an enormous advantage and that really depends who gets the high cards first, or the cards which grant them anti-dashing strike defenses.
like, Rook has that defensive ability, but when you get DS'd with 4s and 5s, there's not much you can do, and there's no way to outmaneuver someone who just has higher cards for dashes. By contrast, if Rook has a pair of 5s, it's almost impossible to beat him, because he will block your dashing strike and move in with his super dangerous close-range powers.
this isn't just re: my own game, it's about the others as well.
it's still a pretty fascinating mechanic for such a brief game, but luck plays an enormous role, I think, since it grants starkly different abilities to each player with each hand.
I still disagree with your assessment. Everyone so far has been playing the game at a rather sub-optimal level, which isn't surprising given that it is everyone's first game.
TL DRNot at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered Userregular
My job also expects things to be documented as they're done.
lol.
I do try to at least wrap it up the next day, though. And we have a general 'documentation/answering phone calls that don't generate a ticket/playing with the office RC helicopter' item to put time against, which gets used liberally.
Flash Duel seems like it's super random. Like, there was no possible way to win that first round because I could not get an attack off against an opponent with better cards.
I disagree, there were a lot of different ways you could have played that match. That's all I can really say given that I have knowledge of all the cards though.
i'm sure there was a way i could have done better, but it really seems like whoever gets the first dashing strike has an enormous advantage and that really depends who gets the high cards first, or the cards which grant them anti-dashing strike defenses.
like, Rook has that defensive ability, but when you get DS'd with 4s and 5s, there's not much you can do, and there's no way to outmaneuver someone who just has higher cards for dashes. By contrast, if Rook has a pair of 5s, it's almost impossible to beat him, because he will block your dashing strike and move in with his super dangerous close-range powers.
this isn't just re: my own game, it's about the others as well.
it's still a pretty fascinating mechanic for such a brief game, but luck plays an enormous role, I think, since it grants starkly different abilities to each player with each hand.
I still disagree with your assessment. Everyone so far has been playing the game at a rather sub-optimal level, which isn't surprising given that it is everyone's first game.
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Most of you are doing a heck of a lot better than I did in my first game.
it's too bad none of you fuckers live in my city, i have so much expensive booze i would like to share
Which city is that? Maybe I do.
I mean.
Maybe I could.
ottawa, ontario, canada
not a bad city, really
one of the worst dressed in the continent by most fashion mag assessments though
I'm actually going to be in Ottawa with a friend, visiting a couple other friends, the weekend after Easter.
well, if you like bourbon, let me tell you
you got an opportunity
I would love to try out bourbon--especially with you. I am often jealous of your posts in the Alcohol thread.
(I'll shoot you a PM or something closer to the date so I know my "itinerary". haha)
have you never had bourbon before? any whiskey is pretty powerful stuff if you're not a drinker.
i am constantly derided for having deliberately acclimated myself to whiskey and alcohol instead of it being "natural," like my taste is artificial or fake.
I haven't knowingly had bourbon, but I love whiskey. It's my go-to alcohol. I'm definitely a drinker, I just haven't gotten around to trying the bourbons.
oh, well then you're fine. what do you drink? scotch? rye? canadian (the horror)?
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
At my last job, timesheets represented about 10-15% of my daily workload, just due to the level of detail my boss demanded.
Of course, it was impossible to do this within the allotted time, so you had to make a choice: put in unpaid overtime (illegally) to get it done, or just don't get it done and get yelled at.
We are being "capacity planned" right now.
This means that you have to use the world's creakiest macro-based excel sheet to keep track of everything you're doing at any given moment.
It is so poorly put together that it slows anyone's rate of work to a crawl (in a whole variety of ways), and doesn't account for the fact that you may be doing more than one thing at once, which means we have been told not to do more than one thing at once, even though we would usually and what is supposedly being measured is the average duration of typical tasks.
It is not clear how the data this thing produces is supposed to relate to the actual rates at which people are able to perform the tasks in question.
At my last job, timesheets represented about 10-15% of my daily workload, just due to the level of detail my boss demanded.
Of course, it was impossible to do this within the allotted time, so you had to make a choice: put in unpaid overtime (illegally) to get it done, or just don't get it done and get yelled at.
We are being "capacity planned" right now.
This means that you have to use the world's creakiest macro-based excel sheet to keep track of everything you're doing at any given moment.
It is so poorly put together that it slows anyone's rate of work to a crawl (in a whole variety of ways), and doesn't account for the fact that you may be doing more than one thing at once, which means we have been told not to do more than one thing at once, even though we would usually and what is supposedly being measured is the average duration of typical tasks.
It is not clear how the data this thing produces is supposed to relate to the actual rates at which people are able to perform the tasks in question.
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Well I have the time machine...
son.
well, if you like bourbon, let me tell you
you got an opportunity
Of course, it was impossible to do this within the allotted time, so you had to make a choice: put in unpaid overtime (illegally) to get it done, or just don't get it done and get yelled at.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
though far less believable
Damn it I'm only 29
When you spend a good chunk of your man hours tracking how your man hours are spent, something is wrong.
I would love to try out bourbon--especially with you. I am often jealous of your posts in the Alcohol thread.
(I'll shoot you a PM or something closer to the date so I know my "itinerary". haha)
you couldn't put down hours spent filling out timesheets on the timesheets?
The idea was that you'd fill out your timesheet little by little as you work, and that way you'd just 'bake in' that time into each project.
That was a retarded idea and nobody ever did it but it didn't stop them from demanding it week after week after week :rotate:
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
guess what! i got one. and I put so much time into that bucket.
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i'm sure there was a way i could have done better, but it really seems like whoever gets the first dashing strike has an enormous advantage and that really depends who gets the high cards first, or the cards which grant them anti-dashing strike defenses.
like, Rook has that defensive ability, but when you get DS'd with 4s and 5s, there's not much you can do, and there's no way to outmaneuver someone who just has higher cards for dashes. By contrast, if Rook has a pair of 5s, it's almost impossible to beat him, because he will block your dashing strike and move in with his super dangerous close-range powers.
this isn't just re: my own game, it's about the others as well.
it's still a pretty fascinating mechanic for such a brief game, but luck plays an enormous role, I think, since it grants starkly different abilities to each player with each hand.
I wonder why!
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
bake in?
wtf?
I can only assume that was what management was doing when they came up with that policy
have you never had bourbon before? any whiskey is pretty powerful stuff if you're not a drinker.
i am constantly derided for having deliberately acclimated myself to whiskey and alcohol instead of it being "natural," like my taste is artificial or fake.
I still disagree with your assessment. Everyone so far has been playing the game at a rather sub-optimal level, which isn't surprising given that it is everyone's first game.
I don't understand what that means
why would someone deride you for that
I haven't knowingly had bourbon, but I love whiskey. It's my go-to alcohol. I'm definitely a drinker, I just haven't gotten around to trying the bourbons.
: (
"Answering the phone in front of my crush"
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Also, @Thanatos - Neener neener!
lol.
I do try to at least wrap it up the next day, though. And we have a general 'documentation/answering phone calls that don't generate a ticket/playing with the office RC helicopter' item to put time against, which gets used liberally.
Most of you are doing a heck of a lot better than I did in my first game.
funk is a pretty good kind of liquid
it's supposed to be three hours long and a group event
le sigh
insufficient time tracking?
this must be what it's like being white trash in connecticut
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
OH SNAP
oh, well then you're fine. what do you drink? scotch? rye? canadian (the horror)?
boo hoo I have to get educated and make my life better boohoo
than i would gladly drink with you if you came to canada
seriously, just another thing to add to the list of horribleness
here is the litmus test:
did I lose?
if yes, then your game is bullshit.
We are being "capacity planned" right now.
This means that you have to use the world's creakiest macro-based excel sheet to keep track of everything you're doing at any given moment.
It is so poorly put together that it slows anyone's rate of work to a crawl (in a whole variety of ways), and doesn't account for the fact that you may be doing more than one thing at once, which means we have been told not to do more than one thing at once, even though we would usually and what is supposedly being measured is the average duration of typical tasks.
It is not clear how the data this thing produces is supposed to relate to the actual rates at which people are able to perform the tasks in question.
You grow up reading Dilbert comics and think "it's funny because it's absurd".
Then you find out it is actually literally true.