DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
he's doin' a real good job!
you know, alienating everybody and racking up massive debts
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masterofmetroidHave you ever looked at a worldand seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered Userregular
He gives Davos this whole speech about remembering who was with him at first and who wasn't in Storm of Swords. There isn't a whole lot of room for interpretation there.
He straight up cannot forgive people without some kind of price paid. Davo's saved his life and still lost his fingers, the fact that Davos saw it as fair says more about him than it does Stannis. Stannis isn't going to save the kingdom, he's going to decimate it once he wins to serve his own sense of justice(which is really vengeance by the way). Why the hell do you think he has something like R'hlorr on his side anyway?
Stannis is a far from perfect man and has made one huge folly in the series, but at the point we're at now in the story I don't know how you wouldn't be behind him.
I mean really, who wouldn't want to see him crush the Boltons? I don't want to see him as king, but he's the last chance of anything resembling a good guy winning in Westeros.
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masterofmetroidHave you ever looked at a worldand seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered Userregular
No, he's still a jerk. He's just a jerk that happens to be pointed in the right direction sometimes, though even then he goes to far more often than not.
No, he's still a jerk. He's just a jerk that happens to be pointed in the right direction sometimes, though even then he goes to far more often than not.
Him being a jerk is inherently in his being and what accounts for his greatest accomplishments, so it's kind of an intrinsic (sp?) flaw. Still a jerk, but he's a good enough character that the distinction should matter IMO.
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
"Alright boys, we ended the season 1 premiere with a kid being shoved outta the window. For the Season 2 premiere we gotta go bigger! BIGGER, I TELL YOU."
"Alright boss how about we kill like a dozen babies and children"
dead knight being swept away, leaving a trail of blood on the floor like a slug
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Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
Just watched this. Good episode!
Them wolves got big, which makes me very happy.
Though (massive Storm of Swords spoiler so non-readers avoid)
Every scene with Robb in it is breaking my heart. Like today when he and Catelyn are talking about Sansa and Arya and I was just thinking how Robb's never going to see them or Bran or Jon again. And poor Grey Wind too
Surprised they got to Craster's keep so early. Makes me wonder how they're gonna keep Jon busy for a whole season if they're rushing his storyline through this fast (there's basically only 3 more beats to it in the book). My guess is he won't show up in 2 or 3 episodes.
Also I get why they didn't open with the prologue (characters we haven't seen before? Great hook!), but shuffling the order of the scenes around like this makes Cressen look kinda dumb. He's openly hostile to Melisandre before he tries to poison her so his gambit comes off as ill-advised.
Also I get why they didn't open with the prologue (characters we haven't seen before? Great hook!), but shuffling the order of the scenes around like this makes Cressen look kinda dumb. He's openly hostile to Melisandre before he tries to poison her so his gambit comes off as ill-advised.
I haven't read the second book, but maybe he was hoping he could turn the crowd?
Also I get why they didn't open with the prologue (characters we haven't seen before? Great hook!), but shuffling the order of the scenes around like this makes Cressen look kinda dumb. He's openly hostile to Melisandre before he tries to poison her so his gambit comes off as ill-advised.
I haven't read the second book, but maybe he was hoping he could turn the crowd?
or do you mean openly hostile right before
The poison scene is the first scene in the second book. Cressen is already dead by the time they burn the seven. So that whole speech he has in front of everyone just doesn't happen.
yeah, the prologue takes place basically in Cressen's head as he decides to murder her, trying to act nonchalant and going through the day until time for the dinner.
I think it's my favorite prologue in the books, actually, it's a really good opener.
Really liked this episode. Only problem I can tell is that the next episode is where the bullshit begins.
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AbsalonLands of Always WinterRegistered Userregular
Stannis is. Sometimes he will do something that is pretty appropriate, decent, smart or just, and sometimes he will do something that will have you fuming. He didn't change one bit between those two cases. He breaks before he bends, as is said in one of the books.
And seriously, considering what he is up against now, you have to root for him.
Also, I'll agree with the people who say that Stannis would make a horrible king; for the same reason as everyone else says. The whole scene where he refused to make an alliance with Robb clinched it for me. Who the hell thinks that asking is begging?
if it wasn't for shadowbabies, Renly would've won against Stannis, then he probably would have agreed to let Robb keep the north, and that alliance could have easily crushed the Lannisters, and then with a realm in peace they could've held back the Others and Aegon+Dorne+Daenerys later on. So really Melisandre is to blame for how much shit goes to shit after that point.
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okay make him a general or something, leave him penned up as the lord of some shitty burg when you don't need him on the field
but you need to fuck way up to let him get it into his head that he deserves to be king.
also man Davos you really need to
you know, alienating everybody and racking up massive debts
He straight up cannot forgive people without some kind of price paid. Davo's saved his life and still lost his fingers, the fact that Davos saw it as fair says more about him than it does Stannis. Stannis isn't going to save the kingdom, he's going to decimate it once he wins to serve his own sense of justice(which is really vengeance by the way). Why the hell do you think he has something like R'hlorr on his side anyway?
And a good king doesn't need the love of the people.
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she knows he's no big deal
She never sees him in her flames, he's just a means for her to do whatever she's planning on doing
also there's the matter of there being at least two more 'lord of light's, also endorsed by red priests
Him being a jerk is inherently in his being and what accounts for his greatest accomplishments, so it's kind of an intrinsic (sp?) flaw. Still a jerk, but he's a good enough character that the distinction should matter IMO.
if anything I'm giving him too much credit
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The spelling error here is killing me. But hilarious nonetheless.
"Alright boss how about we kill like a dozen babies and children"
"BEAUTIFUL!"
Them wolves got big, which makes me very happy.
Though (massive Storm of Swords spoiler so non-readers avoid)
Yeah, that was brutal.
I haven't read the second book, but maybe he was hoping he could turn the crowd?
or do you mean openly hostile right before
The poison scene is the first scene in the second book. Cressen is already dead by the time they burn the seven. So that whole speech he has in front of everyone just doesn't happen.
I think it's my favorite prologue in the books, actually, it's a really good opener.
and we watch the show together
so to preserve that experience I am waiting to read each book until after the season airs
and it is killing me
They're both honourable, yes, but they seem to have very different views on what honour is
Robb is just all like let's not be dicks to each other maybe okay.
And seriously, considering what he is up against now, you have to root for him.
Still haven't even seen Season 1.