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Where the beer flows like wine (Dumb and Dumber 2)

TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
edited April 2012 in Social Entropy++
Jim Carrey and crew apparently just got over dry heaving after seeing Dumb and Dumberer and said "goddamn we can do better."

Hence, DUMB AND DUMBER 2, starring Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels. Fuck yeah!

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/showbiz/movies/dumb-dumber-2-farrelly-carrey-ew/index.html
"We're getting set to shoot Dumb and Dumber 2 in September," the director told ComingSoon.net. "We've got Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels back."

Let the quote parade begin.

MOCK.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Anchorman 2 is setting things in motion.

    Now I wait for Happy Gilmore :pro tour.

    I have a podcast now. It's about video games and anime!Find it here.
  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    Anchorman 2 is setting things in motion.

    Now I wait for Happy Gilmore :pro tour.

    Hurry, while Bob Barker is still alive

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Big gulps huh? Well, see ya later.

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    this just seems like the movie studios are so starved for more hits but so scared of taking risks on new films that they're forced to pop out more sequels to "ancient" (in holywood terms) movies

    it just

    it all makes me sad

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  • SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    meant to post this in the anchorman thread...
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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Anchorman people post-Anchorman
    vs.
    Farrelly Brothers post-Dumb-and-Dumber

    Imagine there is a chart here
    Pee pee doo doo

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  • existexist Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    do you really think they can top when harry met lloyd

    exist on
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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Big gulps huh? Well, see ya later.

    Almost this exact thing happened to me and my brother when we were kids. Well before the movie.

    Only we were drinking slurpees and the dude was way creepier

  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    does that chart mean original top 10 films in 1981?

    because it says 8 but the color coded part says 7

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Dumb & Dumber is my favorite comedy of all time.

    So I am conflicted by this news.

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    That graph has some meaning, but also lacks some because people will constantly shill out to see horrible shit. Take me for example: seen every one of the Bayformers movies. I enjoy them. A lot. Do I think they're quality movies as an art form? Fuck no. But that doesn't stop them from bringing in million of dollars.

    On the other hand, cutting off that list at 10 is a disservice to the number of original pictures produced. I'd like to see the same list at 20, if not 30 or 50. Even if they're not hugely grossing movies, it still shows a constant state of creativity amongst Hollywood.

    And the part about 'Franchises we're still supporting' is well, disingenuous at best, but a whole bunch of BS. Sure, Harry Potter has stretched across a decade. Great. It's still an original adaption, and hasn't been reproduced. Planet of the Apes being 'still supported' is BS. There was a movie then, and a movie now. Coincidental at best. At that logic, you could say that series has been 'still supported' since '68, AND was just as 'unoriginal' because it was an adaptation. Fast and Furious have had a total of, what, 5 movies now? And some disparity of how well they were recieved? It's still an 'original' series. Which is another thing 'sequel' makes sound so bad; it's one thing when a sequel is produced years and years after an original, as an obvious money grab. But when it's being purposely produced as a series, because no one's going to sit through a five hour long movie? That doesn't mean it's less original than a single movie production.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Also let it be known that I have a rapist's wit.

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    all things being equal, an original has more artistic merit

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Big gulps huh? Well, see ya later.

    WE LANDED ON THE MOON

  • RubberACRubberAC Sidney BC!Registered User regular
    Just because a movie is a sequel does not make it "unoriginal"

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    all things being equal, an original has more artistic merit

    right yes, but unless it is a remake it is still an original story

  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    RubberAC wrote: »
    Just because a movie is a sequel does not make it "unoriginal"

    yes but it does make it "not an original"

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    and honestly I don't even really agree with the sentiment that an original has more merit

    not necessarily at least

  • RubberACRubberAC Sidney BC!Registered User regular
    yes thank you

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Samsonite!

    I was way off

  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    all things being equal, an original has more artistic merit

    right yes, but unless it is a remake it is still an original story

    based on existing Intellectual Property

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    all things being equal, an original has more artistic merit

    right yes, but unless it is a remake it is still an original story

    based on existing Intellectual Property

    and?

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I've frequently not been original

  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    all things being equal, an original has more artistic merit

    right yes, but unless it is a remake it is still an original story

    based on existing Intellectual Property

    and?

    it makes it distinct from original IP and less artistically meritorious.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    all things being equal, an original has more artistic merit

    right yes, but unless it is a remake it is still an original story

    based on existing Intellectual Property

    and?

    it makes it distinct from original IP and less artistically meritorious.

    because?

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    no one promises originality will be good, but at least it leads (in most cases) to fresher concepts thorugh an evolutionary, forward moving, progressive process of ideas, while sequels tend towards a rehash of the same basic selling points while adjusting moderatly for changing times and tastes. I'm not saying sequels are basically bad. I enjoy sequels! but they should not be the dominating force in the industry.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I've frequently not been original

    OUR PETS HEADS ARE FALLING OFF

  • balerbowerbalerbower Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    sequels, remakes, and adaptations aren't crap in and of themselves

    just in the context of hollywood, they've become formula for studios with little vision hence shit like transformers 3 and a billion comic book adaptations

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Sometimes somebody does a remake because they have a different take on the original material or simply think they can do better.

    Sometimes they are right.

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    all things being equal, an original has more artistic merit

    right yes, but unless it is a remake it is still an original story

    based on existing Intellectual Property

    and?

    it makes it distinct from original IP and less artistically meritorious.

    because?

    because there is less originality in it. There has been less investment in creating characters, settings, relationships and style, there are fewer avenues of artistic expression. Creating a fleshed out character from scratch is one of the things that makes a writer an artist, if they use existing characters they are subverting that step. There is one less chance for them to create something.

  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    somebody please explain to me how not being original is a negative, before actual quality of content has been measured?

    all things being equal, an original has more artistic merit

    Why?

  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    I mean, if "all things being equal," the original has more artistic merit, because it grants a greater number of opportunities to create things, wouldn't that only matter if those things were then better than and not equal to the later iterations of those things?

  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    I mean, if "all things being equal," the original has more artistic merit, because it grants a greater number of opportunities to create things, wouldn't that only matter if those things were then better than and not equal to the later iterations of those things?

    nope!

    Because creativity is not about quality.

  • balerbowerbalerbower Registered User regular
    speaking of adaptations, i'm gonna take the story of don quixote and place it in a post-apocalyptic, steampunk world with vampires and schools for wizardry and tyrannical states which hold hunger games

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I think the only remake I've seen that I liked better than the original was Ocean's Eleven

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    And the only movie adaptation I liked better than the book is Last Of The Mohicans

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Oh! One more, Fight Club

    The book is self-important horseshit, the movie has way more of a sense of humor about how absurd it is

  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I enjoyed Blade Runner and Jurassic Park more than their books.

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  • SwillSwill Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I think the only remake I've seen that I liked better than the original was Ocean's Eleven
    Yes exactly pro movie

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