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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    don't care that it's legal

    it's fucking bullshit

    cool

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
    Harrier wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
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    Janson wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    Booo!

    US security is a bitch, full stop. And they can't even be polite about it half the time.

    I've actually had few problems, but a few friends of mine have been treated pretty poorly.

    Last time we flew, Mori and I were grilled more *returning* to the US than Mori had been entering the UK! They demanded to know so much. (Btw; me entering the UK? Took three seconds - I didn't even have to say a word to anyone!) Also, the US is still the only country to demand all ten of my fingerprints and to know how I've funded my trip.

    I think they take fingerprints of all foreign nationals.... although come to think of it, I am not sure about this. I will ask my girlfriend. She didn't have that much to say about the process, other than it took fucking forever (LAX, hurrrrrrrgh).

    Oh no, I know they do. I'm saying other countries don't.

    But those other countries aren't AMERICA.

    =D Sorry. Most of the TSA stuff doesn't really faze me because I don't feel like it really adds all that much additional time to the whole process if you just go through the motions, but generally speaking arriving in another Country has been a more pleasant, even joyful experience than coming back through Homeland Security.

    I don't think there's a BIG difference, but there's definitely *a* difference.
    The convenience or lack thereof bothers me less than the fact that they literally have no right to do some of this stuff.
    In the sense of there are no laws that allow it or in the sense of it's a violation of your basic civil rights?

    Either way, my experience with travel has been "When in Rome..." and not spend a lot of time getting indignant over something that costs me less than 15 minutes total anyway out of a grand total of 20-or-so hours of travel.
    Next they'll mandate patdowns for all passengers, and we'll say nothing. Then they'll make us fingerprint as we go through security, and we'll say nothing.

    It's tyranny by a thousand cuts. I have no intention of going along with it.

    That's horse shit.

    And I have been patted down by airport security. Took 5 minutes of my time and then I got on the plane.

    it is not a thing that should be happening pretty much ever

    at all

    neither should the shoe horseshit

    or most of the ridiculous things the tsa is told to do

    This was in Japan, so TSA was not involved.

    I sassed back at a flight attendant because I didn't want to check a bag.

    And so I'm pretty sure she checked me for additional screening either to fuck with me or because I made her nervous.


    Totally my fault and in any case it took 10 seconds.

    There's a whole lot worse shit in the world to flip out over than a pat down.

    Like, say, getting thrown in fucking Jail, like Janson was saying.

    Patdowns, quite frankly, do not register on my out-rage meter.

    I expect to get patted down going into a club

    Based on that criteria I do not see why it is unreasonable to also get patted down to board a plane.

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    AphostileAphostile San Francisco, CARegistered User regular
    Ugh, I hate flying. Been doing a lot of it lately because of reasons and its been awful.

    I guess I could spring for more expensive flights but blegh.

    Nothing. Matters.
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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    are we saying that TSA patdowns are going to lead to some form of dictatorship

    that sounds pretty silly

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    It is tyranny, dogg.

    Nobody can touch you if you don't want them to

    I learned it at school.

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    GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    I love flying, I really like airports, and I rarely sleep on a plane because I love being able to watch movies while I am in the sky.

    only problem I ever had with security or immigration was when I was going to London to visit my sister, when I was about 16. My mum had flown ahead of me, so I arrived alone and when I handed over my passport to the immigration officer he saw that I was born in the UK.

    "Oh you were born here, King-Upon-Thames, yes?"
    "Yup!"
    "Why?"

    That fucking exchange still baffles me, he then kept quizzing me on why I was alone, where my parents were, why my parents weren't born in the UK as well, why they split up, who I was meeting at the airport, again why I was born in London, etc. Finally he gave me a long look before telling me to sit over to the side somewhere in a specific spot. He put me in the area they kept illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. I mean it wasn't terrible or anything, I just sat there for a good hour or so twiddling my thumbs until some security guys came and picked me up then escorted me to the arrivals section to where my mum and sister were both worried sick about me.

    Apparently I was a risk because I was under 18 and flying alone.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Kiddy diddlers like to board planes mid flight and sneak out unaccompanied minors

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    dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    are we saying that TSA patdowns are going to lead to some form of dictatorship

    that sounds pretty silly

    It's the slippery slope.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    WHY WERE YOU BORN IN LONDON?

    Well, you see, officer, when a man and a woman love each other very much...




    or else I mean like if the girl is totally smoking hot and you forgot to grab condoms at cost-co the week before or something, you know what I'm saying, I mean like this girl is clearly a 10, how many shots are you going to have at a 10 in your life, seriously, but then you know sometimes things just don't go as planned and now, blam, 9 months later, am I right?

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    GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    WHY WERE YOU BORN IN LONDON?

    Well, you see, officer, when a man and a woman love each other very much...

    Oh my god I was SO close to saying that

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    mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    TSAuthorities, disguised as friendly children's characters, then followed young gatsby onto the plane to ensure his safety:

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
    WHY WERE YOU BORN IN LONDON?

    Well, you see, officer, when a man and a woman love each other very much...

    Oh my god I was SO close to saying that

    Hahahaha, sometimes you gotta take your shot.


    It's like with Gabriel Iglesias and getting pulled over for drunk driving: if you know you are going to jail anyway, you might as while climb over to the passenger's seat while he's getting out of his car and just let him try to figure it out.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Atlanta is the best airport.

    If you disagree you are wrong.

    Also, they don't sell the bulkhead seats until just before the plane takes off. Most of the seats that you can't select are reserved for better paying people.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    TSAuthorities, disguised as friendly children's characters, then followed young gatsby onto the plane to ensure his safety:

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    N-No!

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    TSAuthorities, disguised as friendly children's characters, then followed young gatsby onto the plane to ensure his safety:

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    D:

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    But seriously Sarukun, why were you born in London?

    Why, when you could have been born in America?

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    That's such an amazing question.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    zonugal stop trying to be me

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    mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    and start trying to be mensch

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    mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    wait

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    one time when I was eight I flew all the way across the country, from Portland to Philadelphia, by myself

    it was pretty scary but also neat

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    zonugal stop trying to be me

    Stop me!!!!

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    one time when I was eight I flew all the way across the country, from Portland to Philadelphia, by myself

    it was pretty scary but also neat

    I imagine traveling to Philly at any age is frightening

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    there's a pretty simple way to avoid all airport security if you don't like it so much

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Once, 7-year old Trippy walked home by himself from school because he forgot that he was supposed to wait for the afterschool people to pick him up that day.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    stop being fat babies

    philly represent, son

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    I'm big Ben Franklin and this shan't be pretty
    Let me instruct you how we battle in the city of Philly

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I'd be much more scared to go to Pittsburgh than Philly

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    most of the time airport workers are super nice to me and everything is quick so the only thing that annoys me is taking off my shoes and having to buy water inside at twice the price

    oh and one time i got off a plane for a transfer and the only way to my gate was an airport train-but when i got off the train on the ONLY STOP there was only one way to go and it took me almost out of the airport so i had to re-enter the gate and re-buy my water. still dont know what happened

    Bring in an empty dry bottle.

    Fill it inside.

    This has been your pro tip for travelling.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    nothing scary about pittsburgh

    it is chump change, u.s.a.

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    Sara LynnSara Lynn I can handle myself. Registered User regular
    I hate flying. I cry the whole time. I avoid visiting my home state (even when I get homesick) because I hate flying so much.

    I also work in an airport (the worlds busiest, apparently) and it is shitty.

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    Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    I've never been on a plane, but I have been in a ton of airports.

    Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. - Lincoln
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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Harrier wrote: »
    Fuck patdowns, fuck the TSA, and fuck the brownshirts at the Department of Homeland Security.
    no
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    dbrock270 wrote: »
    Harrier wrote: »
    Fuck patdowns, fuck the TSA, and fuck the brownshirts at the Department of Homeland Security.

    FUCK THE GOVERNMENT WE ARE ANONYMOUS WE ARE LEGION.
    That's not the same goddamn thing and you know it.

    Patdowns are a flagrant violation of the 4th Amendment. I had best not be touched while going through security unless they have better prior cause than "9/11 9/11 lol."

    no

    literally the only opinion that matters is scotus and they say you're wrong

    so

    you're wrong

    which case is this, i'm having trouble finding it

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Sara Lynn wrote: »
    I hate flying. I cry the whole time. I avoid visiting my home state (even when I get homesick) because I hate flying so much.

    aw man, that sucks.

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Funny. When I was a little kid and I flew to Hong Kong, I don't remember getting sick at all.

    Cut to three years ago, and I'm airsick as all hell.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    The remove the shoes thing just seems so weird. (I know it's due to a guy trying to detonate a bomb in his shoe) but I've never had to do it for any airport.

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    mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    Blake T wrote: »
    The remove the shoes thing just seems so weird. (I know it's due to a guy trying to detonate a bomb in his shoe) but I've never had to do it for any airport.

    wait, really? i thought it was some holdover from the birdflu scare


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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Blake T wrote: »
    The remove the shoes thing just seems so weird. (I know it's due to a guy trying to detonate a bomb in his shoe) but I've never had to do it for any airport.

    wait, really? i thought it was some holdover from the birdflu scare

    yup.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_shoe_bomb_plot

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    it's bird flu, not bird shoe

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    AnialosAnialos Collies are love, Collies are life! Shadowbrook ColliesRegistered User regular
    Know whats awesome about having military style orders as a civilian working overseas? Customs exemption. Only way to get my gas-mask and plates back into the country without a crapton of waiting and paperwork. Oh, whats that? Of course I don't have anything else that would normally be seized by customs. :winky:

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