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League of Legends: This is apparently the NOT buggy version of the patch.

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    PriestPriest Registered User regular
    Frozenzen wrote: »
    heal on ads? Hmm how should I know if heal is the spell for me when I AD? I generally sivir or vayne in that role. Is heal for me then?

    Heal is for when you want a safe laning phase pretty much, since most of the time you don't even want to be close enough to exhaust someone.

    And priest, stealth. They haven't done anything about it yet. Eve is really bad, twitch is situational on people not understanding how easy he is to kill and shaco is permaban status due to being annoying as hell in pubs.

    Lol, Wtf? For all the uproar people were having over stealth, and how they promised to fix it, they nerfed it, said they'd have a fix soon, and then never did it? Sounds like the 12 months Tribunal development cycle and the long wait for Dominion.

    Whatever, doesn't effect me. Learning to last hit again, oh my word, taking so long. Trist with 95 CS at the end, total noobing it up!

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    GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    Priest wrote: »
    Oh hey, I tried reading all of the patch notes between August and here, but they were very long, and I got bored reading every champ note.

    What was their solution for broken stealth? They did that temp fix where they got like 10 sec stealth or whatnot, I forget. So basically Twitch, Eve, probably not Shaco, but maybe, dunno.

    Nothing yet. Eve nerfed into oblivion, Shaco is permabanned, Twitch is there sometimes.

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    MrGrimoireMrGrimoire Pixflare Registered User regular
    Morello has straight out said that the Stealth Rework was horribly mismanaged on the offical forum.

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    PriestPriest Registered User regular
    MrGrimoire wrote: »
    Morello has straight out said that the Stealth Rework was horribly mismanaged on the offical forum.

    I get the impression that Riot has always suffered from having exceedingly young developers and programmers. As talented as they are, I think they could use some older gaming management, though F2P Dota is so out there and niche (Though extremely popular nowadays), the really only viable candidates would be from the MMO sector.

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    NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    Priest wrote: »
    Oh hey, I tried reading all of the patch notes between August and here, but they were very long, and I got bored reading every champ note.

    What was their solution for broken stealth? They did that temp fix where they got like 10 sec stealth or whatnot, I forget. So basically Twitch, Eve, probably not Shaco, but maybe, dunno.
    Their solution was to nerf Eve into the worst champ in the game and Twitch into the bad tier.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    Its really just Eve that's unplayable. Shaco is good, Twitch is okay-ish.

    And yes, stealth remake is only going to be Eve and Twitch. Shaco isn't permastealth. Teemo's stealth will remain untouched, too.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I'm getting better at CS. I'm fairly consistent with top CS on my team at the end of games, unless a teammate is a huge farm champ. Unfortunately that's usually only about ~160 cs.

    what was the metric again to judge how well you where csing? it was like x cs per 10 min starting at the first minion wave

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    sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    I see Surge Kog'Maw a lot.

    Next week free champs;

    •Galio
    •Morgana
    •Dr.Mundo
    •Viktor
    •Poppy
    •Skarner
    •Alistar
    •Kogmaw
    •Teemo
    •Heimerdinger

    Poppy, Skarner... and a newly buffed Teemo. Prepare for Teemo in every game, gents.

    There are two people on earth who don't own him as-is... the buff might make him more-played though.

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    PriestPriest Registered User regular
    Am I a bad person for liking Skarner only for his ability to spear people and drag them unwillingly to a horrible horrible 5v1 death?

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    PriestPriest Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I'm getting better at CS. I'm fairly consistent with top CS on my team at the end of games, unless a teammate is a huge farm champ. Unfortunately that's usually only about ~160 cs.

    what was the metric again to judge how well you where csing? it was like x cs per 10 min starting at the first minion wave

    I had always heard you wanted to shoot for 15+ CS per minute to be completely successful.

    Damnit, forgot you can't delete posts anymore. Sorry for the double post.

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Priest wrote: »
    I'm getting better at CS. I'm fairly consistent with top CS on my team at the end of games, unless a teammate is a huge farm champ. Unfortunately that's usually only about ~160 cs.

    what was the metric again to judge how well you where csing? it was like x cs per 10 min starting at the first minion wave

    I had always heard you wanted to shoot for 15+ CS per minute to be completely successful.

    Damnit, forgot you can't delete posts anymore. Sorry for the double post.

    10 CS / min is pro level.

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    PriestPriest Registered User regular
    Infidel wrote: »
    Priest wrote: »
    I'm getting better at CS. I'm fairly consistent with top CS on my team at the end of games, unless a teammate is a huge farm champ. Unfortunately that's usually only about ~160 cs.

    what was the metric again to judge how well you where csing? it was like x cs per 10 min starting at the first minion wave

    I had always heard you wanted to shoot for 15+ CS per minute to be completely successful.

    Damnit, forgot you can't delete posts anymore. Sorry for the double post.

    10 CS / min is pro level.

    Thanks for the clarification.

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Infidel wrote: »
    Priest wrote: »
    I'm getting better at CS. I'm fairly consistent with top CS on my team at the end of games, unless a teammate is a huge farm champ. Unfortunately that's usually only about ~160 cs.

    what was the metric again to judge how well you where csing? it was like x cs per 10 min starting at the first minion wave

    I had always heard you wanted to shoot for 15+ CS per minute to be completely successful.

    Damnit, forgot you can't delete posts anymore. Sorry for the double post.

    10 CS / min is pro level.

    And probably only for bot lane, maybe mid lane; top lane gives up some CS for safety.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    thanks. I'm going to practice some in an academic custom game setting then try to get it to that level in some real games.

    Hmm, I guess that statement undersells how much practice it'll probably be.

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    TorgaironTorgairon Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    does that 10 cs per min stat hold up long after 20 minutes, you think? I can have 150-200 cs at 20 minutes, but only if I'm sitting in mid not doing anything else/winning my lane/having a generally good game - basically, the stars must align, and then once teamfights start I'm too busy tunnel visioning and viciously murdering to keep it up. I don't think I've literally ever broken 300 cs.
    academic custom game setting

    something about this phrase/concept makes me grin to myself like an idiot. maybe it's the thought of some guy drawing yordles on a chalkboard

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    GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    Just saw my first support lee sin. That was...interesting.

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    GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Yes, that 10 cs/minute falls off after the laning phase*. Depending on when laning ends as an AD carry I will tend to have 150-250 CS at the end of the game[though i am not the best at farming]. Sometimes if I am pressured hard I will have less

    *but you should still be trying to get as much farm in downtime between fights as you can

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    MrGrimoireMrGrimoire Pixflare Registered User regular
    I improved my cs a lot by playing 12 min. custum games. The goal is 10cs/min (100cs at 12), as stated, using only autos. After the first 12 minutes, stats will have grown enough to make it easy.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    hah I just meant just me and some creeps with no one else to get in the way. Then I'll have to relearn how to do it when people try to shoot me everytime I go in for a creep.

    Also, I'll have to get a chalkboard.

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Metrics after 20 minutes vary too much, due to circumstances of the game dictating what is the proper thing you should be doing. How much you farm depends on the situation, but is pretty consistent for everyone by skill level up until 20.

    By the 10 minute mark, there are only 107 minions in lane, fyi.

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    tehjestertehjester Tampa, FlRegistered User regular
    Hooray! Viktor is free this week!! Lazers all day

    PSN: JesterKing13 Blizz Battletag: tehjester#1448
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    FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    Mundo jungle, what do I do? Solomid down, start clothpots into what?

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    CarnarvonCarnarvon Registered User regular
    Frozenzen wrote: »
    Mundo jungle, what do I do? Solomid down, start clothpots into what?

    9/21/0

    MS Quints Armor Yellows Mpen Reds MR Blues

    Boots+Pots

    WQWQWR

    Start wolves->blue or wraiths->red and then try to counter jungle.

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    For the last two weeks or so I have gone from about 1:1 W/L ratio to 1:4

    wtf has happened to me.

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    R0land1188R0land1188 Registered User regular
    Just managed to recover my 3+ year old account after a rekindled interest in the game! Woooo now to see what I managed to do all those years ago...

    I remember playing as Ashe a lot, and trying as Teemo but not doing so well. I know I am rusty enough so I am a newb at this point.

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    MomoriMomori Registered User regular
    Frothing with excitement over (possible) Hecarim tomorrow.

    Gimme my Marauder Centaur Riot, I already gave you my money.

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    damn. i've gone from having 5-10 more wins than loses to having 22 more loses.

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    CarnarvonCarnarvon Registered User regular
    damn. i've gone from having 5-10 more wins than loses to having 22 more loses.

    I've been at wins=losses-20 for about three hundred games now.

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    I'm... +35 wins in normals and +3 wins in ranked. Mwahaha.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    I see Surge Kog'Maw a lot.

    Next week free champs;

    •Galio
    •Morgana
    •Dr.Mundo
    •Viktor
    •Poppy
    •Skarner
    •Alistar
    •Kogmaw
    •Teemo
    •Heimerdinger

    Poppy, Skarner... and a newly buffed Teemo. Prepare for Teemo in every game, gents.

    There are two people on earth who don't own him as-is... the buff might make him more-played though.

    If the patch actually drops this week.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    350-300 w/l. Get on my level.

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    For the last two weeks or so I have gone from about 1:1 W/L ratio to 1:4

    wtf has happened to me.

    I did this when I started practicing mid hard and failing lots. Playing someone not Morg is hard. : (

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    Arivia wrote: »
    For the last two weeks or so I have gone from about 1:1 W/L ratio to 1:4

    wtf has happened to me.

    I did this when I started practicing mid hard and failing lots. Playing someone not Morg is hard. : (

    yeah i'm realizing it was because i was trying other characters

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    PriestPriest Registered User regular
    This question probably won't get a lot of answers due to it's nature, but how is the quality of PA games nowadays?

    Formerly, they boiled down to the following:

    25%: Nice Guys regardless of skill level.
    40%: Ragers
    10%: Extremely Skilled Players that wouldn't suffer noobs and were thus very not fun to play with.
    25%: Anonymity+Audience= Complete Fuckwad.

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    GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    Priest wrote: »
    This question probably won't get a lot of answers due to it's nature, but how is the quality of PA games nowadays?

    Formerly, they boiled down to the following:

    25%: Nice Guys regardless of skill level.
    40%: Ragers
    10%: Extremely Skilled Players that wouldn't suffer noobs and were thus very not fun to play with.
    25%: Anonymity+Audience= Complete Fuckwad.

    My experience has been 100% positive, but I've only played a few PA games a week.

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    TorgaironTorgairon Registered User regular
    Priest wrote: »
    This question probably won't get a lot of answers due to it's nature, but how is the quality of PA games nowadays?

    Formerly, they boiled down to the following:

    25%: Nice Guys regardless of skill level.
    40%: Ragers
    10%: Extremely Skilled Players that wouldn't suffer noobs and were thus very not fun to play with.
    25%: Anonymity+Audience= Complete Fuckwad.

    historically I have worried that I wouldn't fit in and so have been avoiding the PA channel. no longer!

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    tehjestertehjester Tampa, FlRegistered User regular
    Priest wrote: »
    This question probably won't get a lot of answers due to it's nature, but how is the quality of PA games nowadays?

    Formerly, they boiled down to the following:

    25%: Nice Guys regardless of skill level.
    40%: Ragers
    10%: Extremely Skilled Players that wouldn't suffer noobs and were thus very not fun to play with.
    25%: Anonymity+Audience= Complete Fuckwad.

    I'd say

    50% say nothing
    20% ragers, bout 1 every game
    20% nice guys
    10% elitist jerks

    PSN: JesterKing13 Blizz Battletag: tehjester#1448
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    MomoriMomori Registered User regular
    I've had about 90% good experiences, but I always get nervous when I play with you guys and throw the game.

    Like the three times I played with them, Frosteey was super nice and didn't make fun of me for ruining the game.

    I carried as Ahri one time in a game with ZeroZeroZero, but other than that I'm notorious for being horrible out of shyness around new people.

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    SaldonasSaldonas See you space cowboy...Registered User regular
    Play bot games erryday, do what you want and don't care, cause it's a game...against bots.

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