Did you just kill Chloe? Awesome!

PiptheFair · April 2012

you know what movie that was written by a comedian that ruled and everything else he's done has ruled?

pootie tang

The Lovely Bastard · April 2012

also is this literally a bunch of people gettin' mad about a movie they ain't seen

is that what is happening

a movie they ain't seen and don't know what's about other than what a trailer says

a trailer that is never put together by the filmmaker, but instead the marketing department

marketing departments that pretty much always fuck it up, especially when it comes to satire

is that what this thread is about

is it also about yelling at people for liking a thing

because that is not a thread I can deal with

miscellaneousinsanity · April 2012

The only thing I've seen Bobcat Goldthwait in was Police Academy. I enjoyed those. This does not look like something I would like.

Buttlord · April 2012

The Lovely Bastard wrote: »

The Lovely Bastard wrote: »

the thing about bobcat goldthwait is

world's greatest dad is a fucking rad movie

and he wrote and directed that

but then there's also, well, everything else he's done

you can replace this post with diablo cody, only swap out world's greatest dad with young adult

ok yeah young adult is pretty good

Buttlord · April 2012

PiptheFair wrote: »

you know what movie that was written by a comedian that ruled and everything else he's done has ruled?

pootie tang

TankHammer · April 2012

I'm not mad at this or any movie. I'm being casually dismissive of a movie that is allegedly unironically championing an immature attitude where a man decides to kill a child he's never met because she seems like a spoiled brat on a reality TV show about spoiled brats.

I'm kinda curious if the original girl from My Super Sweet Sixteen has grown up a bit and is aware of this movie. I'd be interested in her reaction to the idea that The voice of one of Hades's henchmen from Disney's Hercules apparently would like to see her handcuffed and shot in the head.

Dichotomy · April 2012

I'm getting mad at this movie

deal with it
or not

Shorty · April 2012

I dunno about this movie

could be good

could just as easily be awful

Lord Dave · April 2012

Diablo Cody had the worst recurring column ever in Entertainment Weekly

Ok, top 3

Buttlord · April 2012

-Tal wrote: »

you know when I read the list of petty targets for the murder spree my first thought was that the movie's point was going to be that these people are not worth getting so riled up about

it may be!

-Tal · April 2012

you know when I read the list of petty targets for the murder spree my first thought was that the movie's point was going to be that these people are not worth getting so riled up about

-Tal · April 2012

I really wish somebody could successfully make a movie with the message "stop gettin' mad and don't kill people" without the majority of viewers taking literally the exact opposite theme away from it

Shorty · April 2012

The Lovely Bastard wrote: »

the thing about bobcat goldthwait is

world's greatest dad is a fucking rad movie

and he wrote and directed that

but then there's also, well, everything else he's done

his standup is pretty good

but his show was pretty unfunny

never seen World's Greatest Dad but the trailer makes me really want to

LockedOnTarget · April 2012

World's Greatest Dad was pretty cool. Messed up, but enjoyable.

Artreus · April 2012

The Lovely Bastard wrote: »

also is this literally a bunch of people gettin' mad about a movie they ain't seen

is that what is happening

a movie they ain't seen and don't know what's about other than what a trailer says

a trailer that is never put together by the filmmaker, but instead the marketing department

marketing departments that pretty much always fuck it up, especially when it comes to satire

is that what this thread is about

is it also about yelling at people for liking a thing

because that is not a thread I can deal with

There are no indications that this movie is anything other than what it is being portrayed as. It looks awful and I do not see any reason whatsoever to waste my time and money to go see it.

I feel pretty comfortable condemning it on concept and looks alone

TankHammer · April 2012

We have been basing our judgement on more than just the trailer too. There are several positive reviews that describe a pretty juvenile revenge-fantasy movie.

CorporateLogo · April 2012

The only thing I know about Bobcat Goldthwait was that he played a rabbit muppet on some crappy sitcom alongside Nikki Cox

Ubik · April 2012

2 out of 5:

http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2012/god_bless_america.htm

Though the movie attempts to be a scathing commentary on the de-evolution of our society through things like reality TV, political punditry and a general lack of kindness, it never amounts to much more than a one-dimensional piece of revenge fantasy that isn’t any better than the subjects it's satirizing.
. . .
Though it’s easy to get mad at shows like “Jersey Shore” for making celebrities out of grade-A idiots and fame whores, that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be killed for it. The same goes for people who talk during movies (a few of the many unlucky victims to cross Frank and Roxy’s path), because although they certainly warrant some form of punishment for being rude, it’s pretty extreme to suggest that putting a bullet in their head is a viable solution.
. . .
Had Frank and Roxy eventually come to the realization that they're complete hypocrites by engaging in the very behavior they've condemned, "God Bless America" might have been more effective. Instead, it's just another good idea ruined by some poor execution.

B+:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/sxsw-12-review-god-bless-america-a-funny-insightful-outrageous-indictment-of-contemporary-culture

Compiling an encyclopedic list of offenses unleashed upon the world through the entertainment industry, the pretense of political discourse, and the increasing indignities of human interaction, Goldthwait crafts a revenge fantasy that’s smart, specific, and imminently sympathetic, even when its characters retaliate in admittedly extreme or inappropriate ways.
. . .
Having endured an exasperating conversation with someone inflexibly opposite to my political thinking immediately before watching this film, “God Bless America” was an odd and unexpected salve – a reassuring reminder that there are people who value basic human decency and consideration of others, albeit articulated through the angry voice of a person who would not accept the crude indifference of “fuck you” for an answer.

FAQ · April 2012

Ubik wrote: »

2 out of 5:

http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2012/god_bless_america.htm

Though the movie attempts to be a scathing commentary on the de-evolution of our society through things like reality TV, political punditry and a general lack of kindness, it never amounts to much more than a one-dimensional piece of revenge fantasy that isn’t any better than the subjects it's satirizing.
. . .
Though it’s easy to get mad at shows like “Jersey Shore” for making celebrities out of grade-A idiots and fame whores, that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be killed for it. The same goes for people who talk during movies (a few of the many unlucky victims to cross Frank and Roxy’s path), because although they certainly warrant some form of punishment for being rude, it’s pretty extreme to suggest that putting a bullet in their head is a viable solution.
. . .
Had Frank and Roxy eventually come to the realization that they're complete hypocrites by engaging in the very behavior they've condemned, "God Bless America" might have been more effective. Instead, it's just another good idea ruined by some poor execution.

B+:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/sxsw-12-review-god-bless-america-a-funny-insightful-outrageous-indictment-of-contemporary-culture

You must be a hipster, who enjoyed the new Jay-z and Kayne album... you should have played a victim/american idiot in this film.

CorporateLogo · April 2012

I hope the world moves past using hipster as a generic insult someday

Ubik · April 2012

http://reelfilm.com/tiff1109.htm#god

Filmmaker Bobcat Goldthwait kicks off God Bless America with a striking, shocking opening sequence that brilliantly establishes the film's irreverent and risqué sensibilities, with the central character's penchant for saying exactly what most of us think (eg he refers to an American Idol-like show as a "karaoke contest") instantly transforming him into a sympathetic and likable figure.

hilarious and insightful

Dux · April 2012

These positive reviews look like they were written by fucking psychopaths.

fightinfilipino · April 2012

CorporateLogo wrote: »

I hope the world moves past using hipster as a generic insult someday

people will dislike other people for liking things

people will dislike other people who dislike other people for liking things

ppl r dum

Druhim · April 2012

Ubik wrote: »

2 out of 5:

http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2012/god_bless_america.htm

Though the movie attempts to be a scathing commentary on the de-evolution of our society through things like reality TV, political punditry and a general lack of kindness, it never amounts to much more than a one-dimensional piece of revenge fantasy that isn’t any better than the subjects it's satirizing.
. . .
Though it’s easy to get mad at shows like “Jersey Shore” for making celebrities out of grade-A idiots and fame whores, that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be killed for it. The same goes for people who talk during movies (a few of the many unlucky victims to cross Frank and Roxy’s path), because although they certainly warrant some form of punishment for being rude, it’s pretty extreme to suggest that putting a bullet in their head is a viable solution.
. . .
Had Frank and Roxy eventually come to the realization that they're complete hypocrites by engaging in the very behavior they've condemned, "God Bless America" might have been more effective. Instead, it's just another good idea ruined by some poor execution.

B+:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/sxsw-12-review-god-bless-america-a-funny-insightful-outrageous-indictment-of-contemporary-culture

Compiling an encyclopedic list of offenses unleashed upon the world through the entertainment industry, the pretense of political discourse, and the increasing indignities of human interaction, Goldthwait crafts a revenge fantasy that’s smart, specific, and imminently sympathetic, even when its characters retaliate in admittedly extreme or inappropriate ways.
. . .
Having endured an exasperating conversation with someone inflexibly opposite to my political thinking immediately before watching this film, “God Bless America” was an odd and unexpected salve – a reassuring reminder that there are people who value basic human decency and consideration of others, albeit articulated through the angry voice of a person who would not accept the crude indifference of “fuck you” for an answer.

I love that he needs a salve after conversing with someone inflexibly opposite to his ideology, without even apparently taking a moment to realize he's probably just as inflexible in his ideology.

Skull Man · April 2012

TankHammer wrote: »

I'm kinda curious if the original girl from My Super Sweet Sixteen has grown up a bit and is aware of this movie. I'd be interested in her reaction to the idea that The voice of one of Hades's henchmen from Disney's Hercules apparently would like to see her handcuffed and shot in the head.

yeah, here's the thing

that THIS IS THE WRONG COLORRRR thing he's referencing

is that one youtube video

that one

but the thing about that video is

it's not real!

if you follow it through the series, she eventually sells the car for 10 dollars!

know what else sells for ten dollars, according to the website at the end? a DOMINO'S PIZZA!

the entire thing was a viral advertising campaign for domino's

so

it's not actually real

and making a movie whose centerpiece moment is murdering a girl that was part of a goddamn ad campaign is, well

awful

Ubik · April 2012

http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-04-11/film/bobcat-goldthwait-s-voice-has-changed/

Predictably, America has been attacked, sight unseen, by what Goldthwait terms as the "right-wing fringe, saying that this is a leftist snuff porno." He's proud to represent the opposite fringe. "Michael Moore got booed at the Oscars, so how liberal is Hollywood? Honestly, it's not liberal enough for me!"
...
Goldthwait avoids "participating" in the industry by keeping his films extremely low budget. Darko, he says, "seem to like what I do, and I do them very small, so it's not a big roll of the dice." That said, on America, he forced his financier's hand just a bit. To explain, he pulls down his cotton Henley to show me a full-color tattoo on his left pec of the logo for Hamm's beer—Darko exec Ted Hamm's family business. "I came in and showed him this new tattoo, and I go, 'Hey, are we gonna do this?' Clearly the movie was on the bubble, because they didn't laugh—they just got really quiet. And I go, 'Plenty of room for Fox Searchlight on [the other] breast!'"

SimBen · April 2012

fightinfilipino wrote: »

CorporateLogo wrote: »

I hope the world moves past using hipster as a generic insult someday

people will dislike other people for liking things

people will dislike other people who dislike other people for liking things

ppl r dum

so... we should shoot them?

Enc · April 2012

Having had two family members and one friend gunned down due to perceived slights against the shooters, I guess I find it hard to find this movie as anything but shallow and hateful. I mean, I'm going to be influenced by my own history, but even taking that aside the assumption that people who do dickish things are somehow collectively doing these things intentionally is rather a weak argument. Most times people do dickish things are not dicks all the time, it's a momentary lapse in judgment, or perhaps being preoccupied and not even realizing their actions, or due to external factors that can't be known to those being slighted. Life isn't filled with simply good and bad people.

The primary example is a great point. The girl flipping out about the car for her 16h is only like that because her parents encouraged it and made that the expectation for her life. She is certainly not without blame for being entitled, but I somehow doubt that she is the one who chose to put cameras around her 24/7 as a minor. Yet she is supposedly a safe target to be murdered because the audience will go along with it. And that is "cool" according to the second hero and, presumably, the majority of the audience watching the film.

I think a lot of folks here are right that this could have been a great film if they came to the conclusion they were no better than their targets and the message was to calm down, but it's not and it isn't. It's a murder film, and that really sucks in a lot of ways.

fightinfilipino · April 2012

SimBen wrote: »

fightinfilipino wrote: »

CorporateLogo wrote: »

I hope the world moves past using hipster as a generic insult someday

people will dislike other people for liking things

people will dislike other people who dislike other people for liking things

ppl r dum

so... we should shoot them?

but then people would hate the shooter, and the whole cycle turns around and eats itself.

Druhim · April 2012

Enc wrote: »

Having had two family members and one friend gunned down due to perceived slights against the shooters, I guess I find it hard to find this movie as anything but shallow and hateful. I mean, I'm going to be influenced by my own history, but even taking that aside the assumption that people who do dickish things are somehow collectively doing these things intentionally is rather a weak argument. Most times people do dickish things are not dicks all the time, it's a momentary lapse in judgment, or perhaps being preoccupied and not even realizing their actions, or due to external factors that can't be known to those being slighted. Life isn't filled with simply good and bad people.

The primary example is a great point. The girl flipping out about the car for her 16h is only like that because her parents encouraged it and made that the expectation for her life. She is certainly not without blame for being entitled, but I somehow doubt that she is the one who chose to put cameras around her 24/7 as a minor. Yet she is supposedly a safe target to be murdered because the audience will go along with it. And that is "cool" according to the second hero and, presumably, the majority of the audience watching the film.

I think a lot of folks here are right that this could have been a great film if they came to the conclusion they were no better than their targets and the message was to calm down, but it's not and it isn't. It's a murder film, and that really sucks in a lot of ways.

No, she did it because she was paid to do that since the whole thing was part of an ad campaign.

Dux · April 2012

ugh

mensch-o-matic · April 2012

lets talk about other fun dumb violences:

Women in Cages
1971 R 81 minutes
When sadistic women's prison warden Alabama isn't harassing her female inmates in her torture chamber, she's maniacally seducing them.

The Clinic
2010 R 93 minutes
A young engaged couple driving through the Australian outback on Christmas Eve get caught in a nightmare when the pregnant fiancée disappears

mensch-o-matic · April 2012

whoops, was saving that last one for the auspax thread

Dichotomy · April 2012

well c'mon if you agree to host an occult-obsessed nazi scholar you're really just asking for it

Dux · April 2012

Damn time travelling posts.

Enc · April 2012

Druhim wrote: »

No, she did it because she was paid to do that since the whole thing was part of an ad campaign.

In the context of the film, it seemed to be considered authentic rather than the real event. ~shrug~

-Tal · April 2012

like it's not even that they're no better than their targets

it's that they're a lot, lot worse than their targets

like literal serial killers vs. people who talk at movies

mensch-o-matic · April 2012

no see they probably misunderstood him as a scholar of the nazi arts rather than a nazi who schols

Druhim · April 2012

Enc wrote: »

Druhim wrote: »

No, she did it because she was paid to do that since the whole thing was part of an ad campaign.

In the context of the film, it seemed to be considered authentic rather than the real event. ~shrug~

I'm not talking about the film itself, I'm talking about the supposed event the film references. The event that didn't actually happen because she wasn't a spoiled teen brat, she was just an actor playing a spoiled teen brat as part of a Domino's ad campaign. The film can't even get the culture it claims to be attacking right.

PiptheFair · April 2012

yeah gonna need clarification

did they think he was a scholar who was a nazi, or a scholar of the third reich

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