I'm not mad at this or any movie. I'm being casually dismissive of a movie that is allegedly unironically championing an immature attitude where a man decides to kill a child he's never met because she seems like a spoiled brat on a reality TV show about spoiled brats.
I'm kinda curious if the original girl from My Super Sweet Sixteen has grown up a bit and is aware of this movie. I'd be interested in her reaction to the idea that The voice of one of Hades's henchmen from Disney's Hercules apparently would like to see her handcuffed and shot in the head.
you know when I read the list of petty targets for the murder spree my first thought was that the movie's point was going to be that these people are not worth getting so riled up about
you know when I read the list of petty targets for the murder spree my first thought was that the movie's point was going to be that these people are not worth getting so riled up about
I really wish somebody could successfully make a movie with the message "stop gettin' mad and don't kill people" without the majority of viewers taking literally the exact opposite theme away from it
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
also is this literally a bunch of people gettin' mad about a movie they ain't seen
is that what is happening
a movie they ain't seen and don't know what's about other than what a trailer says
a trailer that is never put together by the filmmaker, but instead the marketing department
marketing departments that pretty much always fuck it up, especially when it comes to satire
is that what this thread is about
is it also about yelling at people for liking a thing
because that is not a thread I can deal with
There are no indications that this movie is anything other than what it is being portrayed as. It looks awful and I do not see any reason whatsoever to waste my time and money to go see it.
I feel pretty comfortable condemning it on concept and looks alone
We have been basing our judgement on more than just the trailer too. There are several positive reviews that describe a pretty juvenile revenge-fantasy movie.
Though the movie attempts to be a scathing commentary on the de-evolution of our society through things like reality TV, political punditry and a general lack of kindness, it never amounts to much more than a one-dimensional piece of revenge fantasy that isn’t any better than the subjects it's satirizing.
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Though it’s easy to get mad at shows like “Jersey Shore” for making celebrities out of grade-A idiots and fame whores, that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be killed for it. The same goes for people who talk during movies (a few of the many unlucky victims to cross Frank and Roxy’s path), because although they certainly warrant some form of punishment for being rude, it’s pretty extreme to suggest that putting a bullet in their head is a viable solution.
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Had Frank and Roxy eventually come to the realization that they're complete hypocrites by engaging in the very behavior they've condemned, "God Bless America" might have been more effective. Instead, it's just another good idea ruined by some poor execution.
Compiling an encyclopedic list of offenses unleashed upon the world through the entertainment industry, the pretense of political discourse, and the increasing indignities of human interaction, Goldthwait crafts a revenge fantasy that’s smart, specific, and imminently sympathetic, even when its characters retaliate in admittedly extreme or inappropriate ways.
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Having endured an exasperating conversation with someone inflexibly opposite to my political thinking immediately before watching this film, “God Bless America” was an odd and unexpected salve – a reassuring reminder that there are people who value basic human decency and consideration of others, albeit articulated through the angry voice of a person who would not accept the crude indifference of “fuck you” for an answer.
Though the movie attempts to be a scathing commentary on the de-evolution of our society through things like reality TV, political punditry and a general lack of kindness, it never amounts to much more than a one-dimensional piece of revenge fantasy that isn’t any better than the subjects it's satirizing.
. . .
Though it’s easy to get mad at shows like “Jersey Shore” for making celebrities out of grade-A idiots and fame whores, that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be killed for it. The same goes for people who talk during movies (a few of the many unlucky victims to cross Frank and Roxy’s path), because although they certainly warrant some form of punishment for being rude, it’s pretty extreme to suggest that putting a bullet in their head is a viable solution.
. . .
Had Frank and Roxy eventually come to the realization that they're complete hypocrites by engaging in the very behavior they've condemned, "God Bless America" might have been more effective. Instead, it's just another good idea ruined by some poor execution.
Filmmaker Bobcat Goldthwait kicks off God Bless America with a striking, shocking opening sequence that brilliantly establishes the film's irreverent and risqué sensibilities, with the central character's penchant for saying exactly what most of us think (eg he refers to an American Idol-like show as a "karaoke contest") instantly transforming him into a sympathetic and likable figure.
Though the movie attempts to be a scathing commentary on the de-evolution of our society through things like reality TV, political punditry and a general lack of kindness, it never amounts to much more than a one-dimensional piece of revenge fantasy that isn’t any better than the subjects it's satirizing.
. . .
Though it’s easy to get mad at shows like “Jersey Shore” for making celebrities out of grade-A idiots and fame whores, that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be killed for it. The same goes for people who talk during movies (a few of the many unlucky victims to cross Frank and Roxy’s path), because although they certainly warrant some form of punishment for being rude, it’s pretty extreme to suggest that putting a bullet in their head is a viable solution.
. . .
Had Frank and Roxy eventually come to the realization that they're complete hypocrites by engaging in the very behavior they've condemned, "God Bless America" might have been more effective. Instead, it's just another good idea ruined by some poor execution.
Compiling an encyclopedic list of offenses unleashed upon the world through the entertainment industry, the pretense of political discourse, and the increasing indignities of human interaction, Goldthwait crafts a revenge fantasy that’s smart, specific, and imminently sympathetic, even when its characters retaliate in admittedly extreme or inappropriate ways.
. . .
Having endured an exasperating conversation with someone inflexibly opposite to my political thinking immediately before watching this film, “God Bless America” was an odd and unexpected salve – a reassuring reminder that there are people who value basic human decency and consideration of others, albeit articulated through the angry voice of a person who would not accept the crude indifference of “fuck you” for an answer.
I love that he needs a salve after conversing with someone inflexibly opposite to his ideology, without even apparently taking a moment to realize he's probably just as inflexible in his ideology.
I'm kinda curious if the original girl from My Super Sweet Sixteen has grown up a bit and is aware of this movie. I'd be interested in her reaction to the idea that The voice of one of Hades's henchmen from Disney's Hercules apparently would like to see her handcuffed and shot in the head.
yeah, here's the thing
that THIS IS THE WRONG COLORRRR thing he's referencing
Predictably, America has been attacked, sight unseen, by what Goldthwait terms as the "right-wing fringe, saying that this is a leftist snuff porno." He's proud to represent the opposite fringe. "Michael Moore got booed at the Oscars, so how liberal is Hollywood? Honestly, it's not liberal enough for me!"
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Goldthwait avoids "participating" in the industry by keeping his films extremely low budget. Darko, he says, "seem to like what I do, and I do them very small, so it's not a big roll of the dice." That said, on America, he forced his financier's hand just a bit. To explain, he pulls down his cotton Henley to show me a full-color tattoo on his left pec of the logo for Hamm's beer—Darko exec Ted Hamm's family business. "I came in and showed him this new tattoo, and I go, 'Hey, are we gonna do this?' Clearly the movie was on the bubble, because they didn't laugh—they just got really quiet. And I go, 'Plenty of room for Fox Searchlight on [the other] breast!'"
I hope the world moves past using hipster as a generic insult someday
people will dislike other people for liking things
people will dislike other people who dislike other people for liking things
ppl r dum
so... we should shoot them?
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Having had two family members and one friend gunned down due to perceived slights against the shooters, I guess I find it hard to find this movie as anything but shallow and hateful. I mean, I'm going to be influenced by my own history, but even taking that aside the assumption that people who do dickish things are somehow collectively doing these things intentionally is rather a weak argument. Most times people do dickish things are not dicks all the time, it's a momentary lapse in judgment, or perhaps being preoccupied and not even realizing their actions, or due to external factors that can't be known to those being slighted. Life isn't filled with simply good and bad people.
The primary example is a great point. The girl flipping out about the car for her 16h is only like that because her parents encouraged it and made that the expectation for her life. She is certainly not without blame for being entitled, but I somehow doubt that she is the one who chose to put cameras around her 24/7 as a minor. Yet she is supposedly a safe target to be murdered because the audience will go along with it. And that is "cool" according to the second hero and, presumably, the majority of the audience watching the film.
I think a lot of folks here are right that this could have been a great film if they came to the conclusion they were no better than their targets and the message was to calm down, but it's not and it isn't. It's a murder film, and that really sucks in a lot of ways.
Having had two family members and one friend gunned down due to perceived slights against the shooters, I guess I find it hard to find this movie as anything but shallow and hateful. I mean, I'm going to be influenced by my own history, but even taking that aside the assumption that people who do dickish things are somehow collectively doing these things intentionally is rather a weak argument. Most times people do dickish things are not dicks all the time, it's a momentary lapse in judgment, or perhaps being preoccupied and not even realizing their actions, or due to external factors that can't be known to those being slighted. Life isn't filled with simply good and bad people.
The primary example is a great point. The girl flipping out about the car for her 16h is only like that because her parents encouraged it and made that the expectation for her life. She is certainly not without blame for being entitled, but I somehow doubt that she is the one who chose to put cameras around her 24/7 as a minor. Yet she is supposedly a safe target to be murdered because the audience will go along with it. And that is "cool" according to the second hero and, presumably, the majority of the audience watching the film.
I think a lot of folks here are right that this could have been a great film if they came to the conclusion they were no better than their targets and the message was to calm down, but it's not and it isn't. It's a murder film, and that really sucks in a lot of ways.
No, she did it because she was paid to do that since the whole thing was part of an ad campaign.
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No, she did it because she was paid to do that since the whole thing was part of an ad campaign.
In the context of the film, it seemed to be considered authentic rather than the real event. ~shrug~
I'm not talking about the film itself, I'm talking about the supposed event the film references. The event that didn't actually happen because she wasn't a spoiled teen brat, she was just an actor playing a spoiled teen brat as part of a Domino's ad campaign. The film can't even get the culture it claims to be attacking right.
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yeah gonna need clarification
did they think he was a scholar who was a nazi, or a scholar of the third reich
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is that what is happening
a movie they ain't seen and don't know what's about other than what a trailer says
a trailer that is never put together by the filmmaker, but instead the marketing department
marketing departments that pretty much always fuck it up, especially when it comes to satire
is that what this thread is about
is it also about yelling at people for liking a thing
because that is not a thread I can deal with
ok yeah young adult is pretty good
I'm kinda curious if the original girl from My Super Sweet Sixteen has grown up a bit and is aware of this movie. I'd be interested in her reaction to the idea that The voice of one of Hades's henchmen from Disney's Hercules apparently would like to see her handcuffed and shot in the head.
deal with it
or not
could be good
could just as easily be awful
Ok, top 3
it may be!
his standup is pretty good
but his show was pretty unfunny
never seen World's Greatest Dad but the trailer makes me really want to
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There are no indications that this movie is anything other than what it is being portrayed as. It looks awful and I do not see any reason whatsoever to waste my time and money to go see it.
I feel pretty comfortable condemning it on concept and looks alone
http://www.bullz-eye.com/mguide/reviews_2012/god_bless_america.htm
B+:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/sxsw-12-review-god-bless-america-a-funny-insightful-outrageous-indictment-of-contemporary-culture
hilarious and insightful
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people will dislike other people for liking things
people will dislike other people who dislike other people for liking things
ppl r dum
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I love that he needs a salve after conversing with someone inflexibly opposite to his ideology, without even apparently taking a moment to realize he's probably just as inflexible in his ideology.
yeah, here's the thing
that THIS IS THE WRONG COLORRRR thing he's referencing
is that one youtube video
that one
but the thing about that video is
it's not real!
if you follow it through the series, she eventually sells the car for 10 dollars!
know what else sells for ten dollars, according to the website at the end? a DOMINO'S PIZZA!
the entire thing was a viral advertising campaign for domino's
so
it's not actually real
and making a movie whose centerpiece moment is murdering a girl that was part of a goddamn ad campaign is, well
awful
so... we should shoot them?
The primary example is a great point. The girl flipping out about the car for her 16h is only like that because her parents encouraged it and made that the expectation for her life. She is certainly not without blame for being entitled, but I somehow doubt that she is the one who chose to put cameras around her 24/7 as a minor. Yet she is supposedly a safe target to be murdered because the audience will go along with it. And that is "cool" according to the second hero and, presumably, the majority of the audience watching the film.
I think a lot of folks here are right that this could have been a great film if they came to the conclusion they were no better than their targets and the message was to calm down, but it's not and it isn't. It's a murder film, and that really sucks in a lot of ways.
but then people would hate the shooter, and the whole cycle turns around and eats itself.
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No, she did it because she was paid to do that since the whole thing was part of an ad campaign.
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READ MY COMIC ^^
http://deicidecomic.tumblr.com/
READ MY COMIC ^^
In the context of the film, it seemed to be considered authentic rather than the real event. ~shrug~
it's that they're a lot, lot worse than their targets
like literal serial killers vs. people who talk at movies
I'm not talking about the film itself, I'm talking about the supposed event the film references. The event that didn't actually happen because she wasn't a spoiled teen brat, she was just an actor playing a spoiled teen brat as part of a Domino's ad campaign. The film can't even get the culture it claims to be attacking right.
did they think he was a scholar who was a nazi, or a scholar of the third reich